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[Replay]Build Template - Macro into Carriers @ Blue Storm
  NonY[rC], Aug 30 2008

Replay: http://repdepot.net/download.php?type...;id=6232&name=Jasari+vs+Hoile.rep

This replay shows the template for a strong macro carrier build (as opposed to something like a 2 base carrier build) for PvT Blue Storm. It gets you 4 base econ, max supply with zealot/goon/carrier/maybe reaver, and +1 air/ground with +2 air coming all by 12:30. I use this same concept in one of my Spirit Tournament matches: http://scforall.com/sctv/sc_tv01.asp?mNum=s04&movNum=92

I believe the build is very safe, but depending on what the Terran does, there are many many ways for it to branch off that a single replay can't possibly show. All those things are for you to discover. Whenever the Terran gets something on you, watch the replay and ask "what could I have done to stop this and how would I know in advance that I needed to do it?" and you'll become rock solid.

Anyone can feel free to make a quality post in the strategy forum about it and discuss it or, if nobody is so enthusiastic, then that's perfectly fine too I'd be posting this in the Strategy section if I wanted to write a guide, but I just want to throw a replay up, so here it is in my blog.



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441 apm!
  NonY[rC], Jul 06 2008

Just a silly, pointless video of a game that I got 441apm in. I was gonna make a FPVod of a nice game today, but iCCup is down right now so I figured I'd just upload a little something until my next gaming session. HF

There is a download link below the streaming video.

http://files.filefront.com/441+apmwmv/;10937184;/fileinfo.html



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New FPVod!
  NonY[rC], Jul 02 2008

PvP @ Python featuring Dark Archon!

This isn't an amazing game. This is more for people who would watch all of my FPVods regardless or for bored people who have nothing else to do.

There's no audio -- technical error. I didn't record commentary. Feel free to play your fav music.

You can watch the stream at the site or you can download the higher quality file by clicking "Download now!" beneath the stream.

http://files.filefront.com/NonY+FPVod+PvP+Python/;10893715;/fileinfo.html



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PSA: Fusion Cutters
  NonY[rC], Jun 10 2008

The only result from you spamming right click with your scv on my probe is me laughing at you. Your fusion cutters are already super fucking fast. This most retarded form of useless micro is absolutely hilarious. I wonder how much other completely useless shit these "Terran-takes-the-most-APM-and-is-the-hardest-race" players occupy their time with during a game.

You guys all sucked since the moment you picked Terran and there's nothing you can do about it.



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Judge a Sequence of Events
  NonY[rC], Jun 07 2008

Freeflow writing mode...

After living 22 years in this world, I've decided I have absolutely no common ground with most people, and most people have no common ground with most other people, and that the best thing to do is to just let people act how they want to act and only interfere if it negatively affects me. But sometimes something happens that's so baffling to me that it penetrates this shield of tolerance and rattles me to my core such that I lose all solid ground.

I'll try to describe the sequence of events objectively without my explanations or perspective.

B0neThuGz is playing iCCup. He elects to play C+ vs C on the C's choice of map. The other player wants to know where B0neThuGz is from and his aka but B0neThuGz just wants to play. The other player deduces that B0neThuGz is NonY. B0neThuGz loses and goes afk. He comes back and re-enters Ladder C. The other player initiates conversation again, not to play more, but to talk shit and complain that NonY wasted his time by going afk. NonY gets upset in turn and this multiplies the other guy's insults. He has decided that NonY is only upset because he just lost, not because he just talked shit to NonY.

Ok now from my perspective, here's what I'm doing. I'm smurfing because I just want to play. All the meta-game bullshit sickens me and for a community full of people that claim to love BW so much, it's fucking ridiculous to me how they let drama supercede actual gaming and taint the entire experience. So I'm already thinking "ughhh" when I got an opponent that wants to play detective and can't stand JUST PLAYING BW but rather has to attach all this other shit, and to throw-away iccup games at that. And then there's the fact that I'm just playing casually. Any rank, any race, their choice of map, play even if it lags, do whatever I feel like in the game, etc. As long as I'm playing the great game of BW, it's fine.

So I'm playing the game and I have people in real life I'm talking to while I'm playing, and in the middle of the game, I'm compelled to leave. I don't leave then, but at the final battle I attack-move all my stuff and go afk. I come back like 1-2 mins later and I'm nearly eliminated and I leave.

Back in the channel I'm looking for another game when my opponent whispers me and talks shit. What?!?! And worse yet, it's about NonY. And by that I mean he wouldn't have such shit to say if he never heard of NonY before. But it's the very fact that he went detective on me that enables this post-game negativity. Do these people read tabloids and celebrity gossip? They probably claim to hate that shit and yet in their BW community they do their own form of it. What the hell is so great and compelling that it's more interesting than playing another game of BW? I really really can't understand it. Why do these people log on? And the fact that he concludes that I'm mad because I lost and not because he just spewed a bunch of shit in my direction totally blows my mind.

Let me try some interpretations here...

He's upset that I went afk during the game and wasted his time, but he's upset to such an extreme that he's become irrational and he chooses to waste more time with talking shit.

He doesn't care that I wasted his time. The moment when he can be dramatic outside of the game itself is his favorite part of BW, and now he's soaking it all in under false pretenses.

He only gets upset when people waste his time but he has no problem wasting his own time, even (perhaps especially) when it's doing or saying something negative.

I really don't know what it is.

And then the next stage is that he says that I take the game too seriously and that it's just a game. This COMPLETELY confuses me. Here's what I think:

If he's playing it as "just a game", then he should leave at the point when he knows the game is over so that he can start the next one. (I've done this many times myself on iCCup). Iccup points and rank / record / reputation don't matter. Obsessing over that shit is the definition of "taking it too seriously"

If it's just a game, then why must he know my identity and location? The game is the same.

If it's just a game, why has he initiated and persisted in conversation twice? Especially after the end of the game. The game is over, so if it was just a game to him, like it is to me, then there'd be no reason to talk about it. I want to say nothing and I have nothing to say to him. He has to say shit beyond the game, so he's the one for which it's not just a game.

If it's just a game, then why is he so fucking angry that I go afk? It's not like this is a fucking business meeting here where everyone is earning their $200k salaries. I'm a kid on my comp wasting time playing a video game and so is he. One of us going afk for 1-2 mins = EXPLOSION OF ANGER!?!? Perspective...

If I was in his situation, I would have never said a word during the game nor after the game. I might have even left when I knew that I had won and I felt there was no "real playing" left to do. I'd play a person who afk'd on me again and never have a single problem. To me, that's treating it like "just a game".

The only way I ever break out of that routine is when someone else initiates it and I feel like doing something other than gaming. I sure as hell don't ever get angry at an opponent just for beating me, especially in a situation like this where I'm attaching the least amount of importance possible to the game.

So am I really weird or is he? Are both of our attitudes tolerable or do we do things you would not put up with? Am I insane?



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MYM players to PGL?
  NonY[rC], Jun 06 2008

Have people not taken notice or simply not cared that MYM players get auto-invite to PGL instead of a qualifying tournament determining the participants? The first season had a qualifying tournament and that was cool. But for seasons two and three, they have just invited MYM players: Draco and Sen for S2 and Dreiven and White-Ra for S3. (IdrA does not count since he is an eStro representative, not an invited foreigner)

This seems like the kind of thing people get outraged over.

In my years of not expecting anything great from the BW competitive scene, I don't get that upset when an opportunity like this flies by me. I just see it as a nice bonus if I do get a chance at it. But looking at it objectively, I have to say that what PGL has done is a bunch of shit.

What are your thoughts?



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It's Not April 1
  NonY[rC], Mar 25 2008


On February 10 2008 16:17 imDerek wrote:
i thought this was a april fools joke or something when i saw the title


IT'S FEBRUARY 10!!!!!


On March 10 2008 11:47 Meh wrote:
This must be fake :3 Some april fools shit.

I mean STOP it with the fucking HERO units you WHORES! And that screenie... black creep? Fuck! And you don't call a zerg unit roach, how stupid can you get?

Grmbl...


IT'S MARCH 10!!!!


On March 15 2008 08:57 rpf wrote:

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LOL

It's obviously the countdown to April Fools' Day. I'm scared.


IT'S OBVIOUSLY THE COUNTDOWN TO MARCH 31!!! BASIC MATH!!!


On March 12 2008 20:05 Klive5ive wrote:
ummm April fools isn't for another 2 weeks yet.

I'm gonna need to see a lot more information before I believe that.


YEAH BUT WHO FUCKING CARES THAT APRIL FOOLS IS IN 2 WEEKS? MUST YOU MENTION IT EVERY TIME YOU ARE INCREDULUOUS WITHIN 2 WEEKS OF APRIL FOOLS?


On March 18 2008 00:37 Radivel wrote:
Testie always, 10 yrs strong, almost conquered the world.

Has anyone considered that the time that this thing ends is April 1st, aka April Fools Day? ;D


FUUUUUUUCK!!!! NO!


EIGHT POSTS IN THE "UNCOVERING AMBITION" THREAD.


FUCK YOU ALL!!!!!!


On March 21 2008 10:28 yare wrote:
Everyone has a plausible theory
Will we all be the April's fools?



MINUS THE APRIL PART!!!!!!!


On March 25 2008 00:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Looks like an april fools poll to me.


IT'S MARCH 25!!!!!!!!!!!!


On March 25 2008 05:05 Funchucks wrote:
It's a little early for April Fools.


FUCK, I KNOW! BUT WHO THE FUCK WOULD KNOW IT AROUND HERE? IT'S BEEN APRIL 1 A DOZEN TIMES ON TL.NET ALREADY!!


On March 17 2008 03:07 GarlicPepper wrote:
count down till an april fools joke I think


NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On March 17 2008 03:17 o3.power91 wrote:

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Lol. Imagine building all that hype then "APRIL FOOLS!!1"



IT'S PRETTY FUCKING HARD TO IMAGINE THE EARTH SNEAKING IN AN EXTRA ROTATION ON US! FUCK


On March 17 2008 06:59 SkelA wrote:
april fools? ^^


NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On March 17 2008 19:40 IH4t3z3rg wrote:

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100%


I BET 100% IS A BIT HIGHER THAN YOU GOT ON YOUR BASIC MATH TESTS!!!!!!!!!!!


On March 18 2008 13:08 aeronexus wrote:

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a depressingly plausible idea, but the fact that SC came out on april 1st makes things look a lot better


SOMETHING ELSE IS DEPRESSING ME...


On March 22 2008 21:53 TheDarKo wrote:
I think we'll just have to wait until 31 and get ourself a "april april" in our face.


WOW YOU REALLY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS APRIL FOOLS THING WORKS? THE FOOLING HAS TO HAPPEN ON APRIL 1, NOT MARCH 31!!!!!!!!!


On March 24 2008 09:39 Nitrogen23 wrote:
Umm... I'm guessing april fools.


I CAN ONLY HOPE YOU GUESS THIS BAD ON ALL YOUR TESTS AND FAIL AND HAVE A HORRIBLE LIFE


On March 24 2008 10:23 Nitrogen23 wrote:

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... if they put it as april first it's not going to fool anyone, all the sites put up jokes before it so people don't suspect it.

Seriously, what's the point of doing it on april first, no one will believe it.



CUZ THAT'S WHAT IT FUCKING IS!!!!!!!!!!!


On March 24 2008 19:36 Straylight wrote:
Oh man if this turns out to be April fools then someone will pay.


HOLY FUCK I WISH YOU HAD TO PAY FOR THIS SHIT


On March 25 2008 01:53 NastyMarine wrote:
EARLY APRIL FOOLS JOKES.


WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!


On March 25 2008 04:08 BlackStar wrote:
Hunters; April fools.


IT'S MARCH 25!!!!!!!!!!!!


On March 25 2008 10:32 TheTyranid wrote:
Hunters is an April Fools joke obviously, there is no way it's going to be used in progaming.


IT'S MARCH 25!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On March 25 2008 22:12 pyrogenetix wrote:
hunters? april fools?


MARCH 25?



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DRAAAINAGE
  NonY[rC], Mar 19 2008

I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE!!!!!!!!!



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Team melee!
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TheoryCraft Me
  NonY[rC], Feb 02 2008

Ever wished you were a more capable Protoss player so you could test out all your crazy theories? Here's your chance to almost do that! Tell me your unorthodox, non-standard and weird ideas and I'll try them out.

The more specific you are, the more likely I am to do it. If you've seen a progamer get in a situation and respond a certain way and you wonder "wouldn't this other way be better?" then let's hear it. If you've made up a build order that you swear is better than the standard build (at least in some scenarios) then jot it down. If you've got a cheesey build where you've thought out all the possible outcomes and it's actually a pretty safe build, then type it out. If you think an unused unit would be cost-efficient in a certain scenario and it's unlikely to mess up the balance of the infinity other variables in the game, then lay it out.

And if you can post a replay or link a VOD in which I can see the exact situation of intended use, then I'm even more likely to try it.

And as a gift of good will, here is another rofl rep. It's less than 5 minutes in length so I'll provide no summary other than that it involves pylon prisons.
Replay


Game 1: DT/Goon/Obs PvP


On February 02 2008 04:23 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
PvP, fast dt try to injure him as much as possible, take nat as soon as dt comes out and then make like 2/3 cannons depending on his strat. Then Macro like a beast and make mass dt with like 12 goons and obs. Go around killing his obs with goons and dting him + expoing, u should be able to win atleast one game with ths strat, untill ur opponent figures out he just has to kill ur obs lol. If he firgures out he just has to kill ur obs and ur still in the game, then he should be really behind and u should be able to finish him off pretty easily. !!!!






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