Well, last month swine flu raped through my campus like Jack the ripper through 19th century London. I thought I had swiftly avoided it as I read over the past two weeks in the paper the number of reported cases going down, drastically. Then around last Thursday I started to notice myself getting sick, so I stayed home and rested all weekend, drinking a lot of water.
Friday night was hell, I slept for 16 hours, waking up every four or so in a cold or hot sweat, with a runny nose sometimes or a dry, burning throat other times. It hurt to even swallow water. After that night the symptoms started wearing off, but here I am on Monday afternoon back at school reading about swine flu symptoms and it seems like I have every single one. I talked to another person who actually had swine flu a few weeks ago and our experiences matched up fairly evenly.
I'm definitely on the down-slope of the illness. I can't wait to get better. This is all speculation, I don't know what it is.
But I did end up getting my girlfriend sick, for which I feel terrible. I think I might get some soup on the way home for her.
Your resident possible survivor of swine flu, -Meta
Be happy that you got the swine flue and not the regular season flue. (the swine flue is much more mild than the normal flue) I got the regular season flue last year and it sucked ass. basically your symptons but much worse +diarrea and it lasted 1 and a half damn week. I only got the swine flue this year which means I can't get the season flue. The swine flue only got me a soar throat for 3 days then it was gone.
On October 27 2009 08:20 Integra wrote: Be happy that you got the swine flue and not the regular season flue. (the swine flue is much more mild than the normal flue) I got the regular season flue last year and it sucked ass. basically your symptons but much worse +diarrea and it lasted 1 and a half damn week. I only got the swine flue this year which means I can't get the season flue. The swine flue only got me a soar throat for 3 days then it was gone.
Thank god for swine flue.
Yeah I read and heard that the swine version only lasts about 4-6 days. diarrhea was definitely a symptom here. But again, This could be the regular flu.. I have no idea and no insurance so I'll probably never know what it is. I'm currently about 3.5 days in, I guess we'll see how long it lasts
If you're not in any of the risk groups, perhaps your'e even under 20, then u shouldn't worry at all. Then it's just a flu, when it's gone it's gone, your'e immune to it.
I'm taking the vaccine this month, they're giving it to everybody who wants/needs it here, I don't really fear the swine flu, but IF U CAN U SHOULD take the vaccine, so u don't risk getting it, then risk giving it to others who can die from it.
On October 27 2009 08:20 Integra wrote: Be happy that you got the swine flue and not the regular season flue. (the swine flue is much more mild than the normal flue) I got the regular season flue last year and it sucked ass. basically your symptons but much worse +diarrea and it lasted 1 and a half damn week. I only got the swine flue this year which means I can't get the season flue. The swine flue only got me a soar throat for 3 days then it was gone.
Thank god for swine flue.
Except the regular flu kills the very old and the very young, while the H1N1 kills people who are otherwise healthy.
I stayed home for about a week when i had swine flu...but i only had symptoms for like 3-4 days..possibly beacuse i was on meds though. Good luck. Swine flu isn't that bad ^^
No, I was tested, it was swine flue. And yes it is milder because 1) Not many people in Sweden has actually been infected by it since the season flue started at the same time as the swine flue here so the season flue which is stronger simply killed the swineflue once it infected the body. we only have like 2000 people or something totally.
2) the Deadliness of the swineflue compared to the season flue is very low. we have an early death between 2000 to 3000 sweden each year in seasonflue, the swine flue has only killed 6 people, were 3 of these deaths were direclty after that they were injected with the vaccine.
@Manifesto7: the swineflue has so far killed people that have had a terminal sickness, old age or with no recent diagnose, there hasn't been any person that were diagnosed as "perfect health" and then died when they got the swine flue.
On October 27 2009 08:20 Integra wrote: Be happy that you got the swine flue and not the regular season flue. (the swine flue is much more mild than the normal flue) I got the regular season flue last year and it sucked ass. basically your symptons but much worse +diarrea and it lasted 1 and a half damn week. I only got the swine flue this year which means I can't get the season flue. The swine flue only got me a soar throat for 3 days then it was gone.
Thank god for swine flue.
Except the regular flu kills the very old and the very young, while the H1N1 kills people who are otherwise healthy.
Yes, thank god for that.
I haven't looked at the statistics but I'm wondering how H1N1 compares to more standard flues quantitatively... if anyone has any suggestion for how I could go about that or wants to present some info please let me know.
On October 27 2009 08:20 Integra wrote: Be happy that you got the swine flue and not the regular season flue. (the swine flue is much more mild than the normal flue) I got the regular season flue last year and it sucked ass. basically your symptons but much worse +diarrea and it lasted 1 and a half damn week. I only got the swine flue this year which means I can't get the season flue. The swine flue only got me a soar throat for 3 days then it was gone.
Thank god for swine flue.
Except the regular flu kills the very old and the very young, while the H1N1 kills people who are otherwise healthy.
Yes, thank god for that.
I haven't looked at the statistics but I'm wondering how H1N1 compares to more standard flues quantitatively... if anyone has any suggestion for how I could go about that or wants to present some info please let me know.
The average flu season kills around 36,000 americans a year. The swine flu has so far killed just over 1000 americans.
Yeah but that girl in the video has to be the unluckiest person ever for that reaction to happen like that. I doubt another person in our generation will have such a reaction to a flu shot.
And yeah I'd be more worried about the regular flu anyways, as said above. Swine just gets more attention because it's shiny and new, and that's what interests people.
On October 27 2009 08:43 Integra wrote: 3 people in Sweden have already died after taking that dammn vaccine. in defense the people were both old and bad health though.
On October 27 2009 08:20 Integra wrote: Be happy that you got the swine flue and not the regular season flue. (the swine flue is much more mild than the normal flue) I got the regular season flue last year and it sucked ass. basically your symptons but much worse +diarrea and it lasted 1 and a half damn week. I only got the swine flue this year which means I can't get the season flue. The swine flue only got me a soar throat for 3 days then it was gone.
Thank god for swine flue.
Except the regular flu kills the very old and the very young, while the H1N1 kills people who are otherwise healthy.
Yes, thank god for that.
Where did you get that false information? Experts in the field cite that the currently very mild and as integra says currently milder than the regular flu. However, it differs in that it has very high contagiousness and a extremely high potential for mutation into a stronger virus; even that idea is largely under attack seeing as the virus has mutated marginally within these last few months that it's altogether unlikely that it mutates fast enough before it dies out.
Dude swine flu isn't even that bad. The only people who die from it are people who have cancer or some pre-existing illness. Anyway, in Canada alone the normal flu kills about 5000 people a year...so there is really nothing special about the swine flu.
In defense of Manfiesto7, he simply mistook people without a diagnose as a "healthy" person when that person still could have a terminal condition despite the fact that he isn't diagnosed. Allot of people do this mistake and simply assume just because the person doesn't have a diagnose therefore he must 100% healthy. Again; Not a single person who has had a diagnose of being at good health has yet to die of swinelfue.
@icemac Lab tests of swineflue confirm that it is stable and doesn't exchange genomes between strains so there is no chance of it mutating into something more nasty.
The 16 hour sleep with constant hot and cold sweats sounds pretty in line with swine flu. A few of my friends who all live in a condo together had exactly that in addition to regular flu symptoms; they all had h1n1.
But yeah, it's all media bullshit. "100 people dieing a week!", "7 people in BC already dead! Including a 22 year old girl!". They all fail to mention that all these people are elderly and/or have pre-existing illness. They also fail to mention thousands and thousands of people die every year of flu.
Fear is your only god.
Some places are giving out LAST YEARS swine flu vaccine. I'm not trusting the vaccine, it was rushed to the market too quickly and seriously lacked testing. I'm calling it now: the zombie apocalypse is on the horizon.
This is a disaster of biblical proportions. Old testiment. Real wrath of god type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling! Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes! The dead rising from the grave! Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together. Mass hysteria!
I was miserably sick from tuesday til sunday. Im finally feeling better today, cept i still have two inhalers because my lungs are getting raped... dr said he didnt think it was swine, but i will get tested this week if im not better.
I read an article that claimed in america, there had been about 60 deaths in 3 months, which is more than the 30 or so per year from normal influenza. The problem is not that swine flu is worse, but rather that no one has immunity to it like the normal flu.
As to who dies? Usually they say people with conditions like children with asthma.
As for that stupid cheerleader. It was more than likely some preexisting condition. But let's do some statistics. Let's say one in a thousand people will get a bizarre illness in their lifetime that will cripple them somehow. Then lets give a million people flu shots. What is the likelihood that at least one person will come down with their bizarre illness within 30 days of getting a flu shot? Extremely high, that's what.
Furthermore, these shots are mostly going out to people who are at risk, like those asthmatic children I mentioned above. If the flu shot were not getting administered, how many of them would have died or been crippled by this illness. Certainly more than one cheerleader's worth.
Im a med student and I do prac work in GP offices. Ive personally seen a similar reaction to a vaccine (not the H1N1 specifically) that the girl had. It is an autoimmune reaction that occurs in approximately 1 in 1,000,000 cases. To the individual, this risk is tiny. In fact the chances that you will die of a complication should you get H1N1 is most likely much higher than this. However, if you vaccinate 50 million people, you are going to have to expect around 50 of them to be unlucky.
For those who are at risk of complications from the flu, the vaccine is very important as they stand a good chance of dieing should they get the flu. Healthy people however can choose how they want and its up to you. Just make sure your decision isnt based on some sensationalised crap on TV.
As for the deadliness of the disease, its really not that different from the normal flu. It follows the same pattern. People who are too young or too old to fight off the disease or those who have preexisting illnesses which can be exacerbated die from complications. People who are in good health can generally fight it off just fine.
I myself have had swine flu this year, and while it sucked, I survived.
I just got over it. Had a fever of 100 - 102 from tuesday through saturday night. Also had a cough that became progressively worse. Fever has gone away, but cough is still there. It wasn't terrible a terrible experience, but it certainly wasn't comfortable either.
If you have a fever you are still contagious, but if that is gone for 24 hours you are apparently good to go. If you have a fever definitely stay home and away from others.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
You're going to have to elaborate because my blog != his blog. Not even close.
Come on, you said getting the flu wasn't blog worthy, and 8 months ago you posted a blog about getting the flu.
I didn't want to be a dick, but I think most people would consider this hypocritical
Did you even bother reading through the thread before posting this reply?
Btw, I just want to say that I'm not trying to criticize your blog. I can say whatever I want but it doesn't have to mean anything to you. I'm not saying you shouldn't blog about being sick, just felt like putting my 2 cents in.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
You're going to have to elaborate because my blog != his blog. Not even close.
Come on, you said getting the flu wasn't blog worthy, and 8 months ago you posted a blog about getting the flu.
I didn't want to be a dick, but I think most people would consider this hypocritical
Did you even bother reading through the thread before posting this reply?
Btw, I just want to say that I'm not trying to criticize your blog. I can say whatever I want but it doesn't have to mean anything to you. I'm not saying you shouldn't blog about being sick, just felt like putting my 2 cents in.
ROFL. It's okay man, it happens to us all. We get caught. Just admit you were owned, rather than being a douche about it.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
You're going to have to elaborate because my blog != his blog. Not even close.
So it's okay for you to blog about being sick, but it's not okay for him? If that's not the case, then you just got owned.
Haha, you totally did not even read my blog if you really believe what you just posted.
It reads like this to me "Waaaah, I'm sick. I can't work out because I'm sick. Waaaah." Which--to me, and it seems like others as well--is hardly different than "oh shit, I think I have swine flu."
Ha, I can't believe you're actually trying to deny that you blogged about being sick.
On October 27 2009 15:05 Bosu wrote: I don't think you know what a blog is. Because blogging about being sick is blog worthy.
Fine, I'll reword that.
It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog.
You're going to have to elaborate because my blog != his blog. Not even close.
So it's okay for you to blog about being sick, but it's not okay for him? If that's not the case, then you just got owned.
Haha, you totally did not even read my blog if you really believe what you just posted.
It reads like this to me "Waaaah, I'm sick. I can't work out because I'm sick. Waaaah." Which--to me, and it seems like others as well--is hardly different than "oh shit, I think I have swine flu."
I needed input/personal experience/knowledge regarding exercising while sick.
On October 27 2009 09:50 Sigh wrote: I had swine flu last year, and to be honest, it wasnt TOO bad. Maybe slightly worse than a flu. Hope you get better though!
don't freak out about it. like 10-20% of my school mates have had it (it spreads really fast in schools). you just have to stay at home for a week or two and you'll be good to go. take some time to hone your starcraft skills or something.
On October 27 2009 08:20 Integra wrote: Be happy that you got the swine flue and not the regular season flue. (the swine flue is much more mild than the normal flue) I got the regular season flue last year and it sucked ass. basically your symptons but much worse +diarrea and it lasted 1 and a half damn week. I only got the swine flue this year which means I can't get the season flue. The swine flue only got me a soar throat for 3 days then it was gone.
Thank god for swine flue.
Except the regular flu kills the very old and the very young, while the H1N1 kills people who are otherwise healthy.
Yes, thank god for that.
Where did you get that false information? Experts in the field cite that the currently very mild and as integra says currently milder than the regular flu. However, it differs in that it has very high contagiousness and a extremely high potential for mutation into a stronger virus; even that idea is largely under attack seeing as the virus has mutated marginally within these last few months that it's altogether unlikely that it mutates fast enough before it dies out.
On October 27 2009 10:08 Integra wrote: In defense of Manfiesto7, he simply mistook people without a diagnose as a "healthy" person when that person still could have a terminal condition despite the fact that he isn't diagnosed. Allot of people do this mistake and simply assume just because the person doesn't have a diagnose therefore he must 100% healthy. Again; Not a single person who has had a diagnose of being at good health has yet to die of swinelfue.
On October 27 2009 16:03 BanZu wrote: I needed input/personal experience/knowledge regarding exercising while sick.
This blog?
I don't even know.
Any sane person rests until the they are completely healthy and starts training again after. It can backfire else pretty quickly. Its not a mystery, doctors just recently discovered. That fact that you get out of shape might be true, it's not like you can't get in shape back again, though.
Indeed it reads to me more of an update, which says 'I'M SICK DAMNIT' than seriously asking for advice. The fact that you are STILL denying it makes it even more freaking hilarious. You got served and it happens to everyone, just don't be lame.
On October 27 2009 16:03 BanZu wrote: I needed input/personal experience/knowledge regarding exercising while sick.
This blog?
I don't even know.
Any sane person rests until the they are completely healthy and starts training again after. It can backfire else pretty quickly. Its not a mystery, doctors just recently discovered. That fact that you get out of shape might be true, it's not like you can't get in shape back again, though.
Indeed it reads to me more of an update, which says 'I'M SICK DAMNIT' than seriously asking for advice. The fact that you are STILL denying it makes it even more freaking hilarious. You got served and it happens to everyone, just don't be lame.
edit: you win epicfailguy, lol.
Uhh yea.. I know... I read the responses in my blog. I don't know why you're telling me again.
My post was specifically comparing it to getting sick. Reading this was just like reading a blog that goes:
"I got sick with the cold/flu. This sucks. I got sniffles and coughs. I hope I get better soon"
As in, it was a pretty plain and generic update and that if everyone posted something like this it would be pretty ehhh... (I'm not saying I've posted anything else more interesting, also I didn't expect such interested convo in this thread).
I absolutely hate it when people keep going "omfg owned" in any situation when I don't even give a shit. I'm always standing there going "wtf? what in the world are you talking about? How was that owned?" while everyone else goes on thinking that they "owned" me.
That's why I'm denying it, because your explanation for why I got "owned" makes no sense to me. And it wouldn't work for you either if you just read my freaking posts.
Whatever, man. Keep denying it. The reason I wrote this was to hopefully get some other people's experiences to compare mine to, so that I could possibly narrow down my illness, which I did. It was open ended. Nobody asked you to read this. The resulting conversation about the flu shot fiasco was bonus.
It's funnier that you keep trying to deny your hypocrisy than it would be if you just owned up to it, which is also bonus. Everybody else seems to get it, except you.
The fact that you "absolutely hate" something means the opposite of you not giving a shit. Obviously you give a shit and are trying to cover your tracks.
Blogs are blogs for a reason, they're for pointless shit about individuals that nobody really has to care about. I wouldn't have been surprised if I got no responses with this post, and I would have been fine with that.
I could have gone into your blog, saying that nobody cares about your body building or flu scenario, so you shouldn't post it. But I didn't, even though it was pointless and nobody should care about it, because that's what the blog section is for.
At least this wasn't a homework thread or about religion or a troll. I had a problem, wanted another perspective from other people who might have had the problem, and that's what happened. If you've got a problem with it you can just GTFO
I absolutely hate it when people keep going "omfg owned" in any situation when I don't even give a shit. I'm always standing there going "wtf? what in the world are you talking about? How was that owned?" while everyone else goes on thinking that they "owned" me.
That's why I'm denying it, because your explanation for why I got "owned" makes no sense to me. And it wouldn't work for you either if you just read my freaking posts.
Meta's blog: Shit! I have h1n1!
Banzu's blog: Shit! I have the seasonal flu! Should I workout?
I'm alright with both blogs but you shouldn't really be sayings shit like "It's a crappy idea for a blog, as in, it's as crappy as saying "I think I'm sick with the flu." I'm trying to imply that getting h1n1 is no more worthy than getting the regular seasonal in being written about in a blog." and "I don't think that this is blog worthy" when there is very little difference between your blog and his.
We've all read your thread and your posts. Do you honestly think that everybody is wrong and you're right? just dance stop replying.
On October 29 2009 00:57 Meta wrote: Whatever, man. Keep denying it. The reason I wrote this was to hopefully get some other people's experiences to compare mine to, so that I could possibly narrow down my illness, which I did. It was open ended. Nobody asked you to read this. The resulting conversation about the flu shot fiasco was bonus.
It's funnier that you keep trying to deny your hypocrisy than it would be if you just owned up to it, which is also bonus. Everybody else seems to get it, except you.
The fact that you "absolutely hate" something means the opposite of you not giving a shit. Obviously you give a shit and are trying to cover your tracks.
Blogs are blogs for a reason, they're for pointless shit about individuals that nobody really has to care about. I wouldn't have been surprised if I got no responses with this post, and I would have been fine with that.
I could have gone into your blog, saying that nobody cares about your body building or flu scenario, so you shouldn't post it. But I didn't, even though it was pointless and nobody should care about it, because that's what the blog section is for.
At least this wasn't a homework thread or about religion or a troll. I had a problem, wanted another perspective from other people who might have had the problem, and that's what happened. If you've got a problem with it you can just GTFO
It would be stupid of me to "own up to" my "hypocrisy" if I don't see it as hypocrisy.
I'm obviously not getting my point across to anyone so I'm not even going to try to anymore. So stop saying shit because maybe you're the one that's being ignorant.
I already tried to get my intentions across but they obviously overshot you so stop bitching so much.