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I don't know how to start this, can my rage form an orderly queue? FUCKING AAAAAAAAAAAHHH
I play this on the PC. The game itself is pretty good. Multiplayer has some balance issues i'd say, but overall it is a fun game to play - when you get to play it.
Lets start our journey like the player, in the game lobby.
Game Lobby: Before you even begin playing the game there is a myraid of problems which really are frustrating. All of these problems i mention are from personal experience and sadly STILL OCCUR ALL THE FUCKING TIME. I honestly believe that this online system works 65% of the time, which is lower than what i thought earlier until i had a game session last night. We'll get to that later... So what can go wrong in the humble game lobby? Well, when you are in a group, even in a group of 2 it is an unreal hassle. My friend and i join a bigger game lobby. One of us is kicked out, "Unable to join host". Ok that may make sense. So we both have to go out, regroup and try again. We join another one. "Server full" for one of us. Well thats pretty stupid, how about finding a game that has 2 spaces or more? Back out back out. Rejoin. Karachi? Fucking Karachi I DO NOT WANT TO PLAY THAT FUCKING MAP. Why can i not play the content that i want of a game i have bought? Why is it a fucking roulette of how your game will be? At least on a real server i can join familiar servers where players are on roughly the same skill level where as joining a random bunch of people every fucking game leads to a complete waste of time. YOU WANNA PLANT THE BOMB? SORRY, YOUR TEAM IS PLAYING TDM. YOU WANNA CAPTURE THE HQ? Sorry, your team is so spread out across the map that you have no idea where they are. Skiiip skiiip. 4 out of 6 votes to skip....................
Wasteland? why do people want to skip that? i quite enjoUH VOTE PASSED. KARACHI! Vote to skip? BLANKED OUT? So we're allowed to skip one map but the next one we are stuck with? How does that make any fucking sense? The other day i was in a bigger group, a group of 6. We join a game successfully (!). Game starting in 5 4 3 2 1 "Your party is no longer active"
Er... "i'm out, you guys in?" "yeah we all are"
What the fuck? Party is no longer active? THAT TELLS ME A FUCKING LOT ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PARTY WAS ACTIVE AND ARE IN THE FUCKING GAME RIGHT NOW - EXCEPT ME. So you either have to annoy all your friends and ask them to leave the game or wait til they are all finished and try again. My friends left and we grouped up and tried again. Game starting in 3 2 1 "Your party is no longer active"
AAAAAAAAAAAHHH THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN! WHY?! WHY DOES IT SAY THAT? "out again" ":/" "..." "tell me when you're done"
Why isn't there even a chatbox in a game lobby?
Another time another space: 2 man group, me and my buddy Breh Panda. We search for a game. We are both thrown into the loading screen. I arrive in game to see the screen grey and scores. I have just joined a game that has ended. I have just joined a game where a nuke has been fired. I have just joined a game where the opponent has 180 points and my team has 0 I have just joined a game and within 5 seconds i have to wait because the host has left and it has to find a different one.
The worst thing about all of the above is not only is it just random most of the time, but it still happens. X months after MW2 and the online is just as dreadful. It's complete bullshit.
So, you've jonied a game. All the players have pretty good badges, miht be an alright game. Game starting in 4 3 2 1 LOADING SCREEN
Ahhh i'm safe. The one way passage from loading into playing. Surely nothing can go wrong with this? Have you ever been stuck in the loading screen? I have. My friends have. Stuck? I don't know why, but once in awhile comes to one of the things like "Setting up game" and it stays on "Setting up game". You can't do anything. You can't escape. You are literally stuck there and it will not return you to the previous screen with like "Connection timed out" I've waited for at least 4 minutes and nothing happens. I couldn't back out of it or get up my ctrl + alt + del friend. I had to turn off my computer.
"Oh ojka that probably happens 1 every bajillion times" Listen mate, i don't think bajillion is a word so shut up.
Loading screen --- into game. Press tab. Why am i the only person in this game? Why has my friend and most other people timed out? WHY DID THIS HAPPEN 4 TIMES IN A ROW LAST NIGHT?
We've made it into a game. We've made it with loads of players and my buddies. *tab* red red red red full green red red red red red Why did you pick a host that cannot host for shit? Host leaves Finding new host Sending 100% blocks ...
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Sending 100% blocks ... er... *esc esc tab tab shift* AM I FUCKING STUCK? ARE WE FUCKING STUCK PANDA? AAAAAAAAAARRRGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH This has happened a good few times
Another game 3 bars 3 bars 3 bars 2 bars 3 bars full green 3 bars Why is it that honestly, most of these fucking games lag? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHH FUCKNIG ARGHHHHH WHY IS IT SO FUCKING HARD TO PLAY THIS GOD DAMN GAME?
WHY IN 2010 CAN A SERVER HOLD A MAXIMUM OF 18 PLAYERS THAT WILL DEFINATELY LAG, 100%. WHY HAVE YOU GONE BACK TO THE DAYS OF 56K? FUCKING ARRRRRRRRGHHHHH Why is it so excruitingly painful to get a playable game? I really don't understand. What is even more vexing is that they have done fuck all about this shit. Oh what, you gave the 1887s a slight nerf? How about nerfing Noob tubes so i don't see a fucking idiot pop one out of nowhere and one hit kill me? Why don't you nerf the akimbo G18s with the fast RoF, ridiculous range or huge clip size? Why don't you make some of the killstreaks a little better? Harriers at 7 is a godsend. Much better than the first helicopter and much better than the 9 killstreak stealth bomber. Why can't i have a filter system or just the ability to choose one map that i do NOT WANT TO PLAY and let me PLAY THE GAME THAT I WANT TO PLAY?
Why are you selling the new maps and extra gun or two for $15 when you could buy 2 arcade games for that? Since when did people have to pay for maps? Why do console players always have to pay for new maps when the PC users get them for free? How does that make any sense at all?
Honestly man, the variance in gameplay is awful. If you're not in a game that lags and has players that have an idea of what the god damn objective is then my god, that is the best you will ever get. But why is that so random to have?
I only play MW2 when a friend is on because that is the only time i can have an alright time because i can trust at least that one of my team mates is not a retard. My friend and i have tried 6-7 games in a row and not one of them has been decent and we just give up. It really is appaling.
Too Long:Didn't Read Lag 70% of the time Team mates are retards G18s + noob tube nerf SORT THE FUCKING ONLINE OUT FUCK YOU AND THE NEW COD COMING OUT THIS YEAR AND TO THE NEW COD COMING OUT NEXT FUCKING YEAR Infuriating to play Karachi is awful
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lol i play on xbox live and once in a while i get timed out or stuck on loading screen but 90% of the time its fine.
also i agree karachi is awful.
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Do we really need a thread saying why MW2 sucks? Next thing you know people are going to be making threads like "DoW2 sucks", "C&C4 sucks", "Brawl sucks", "IdrA is BM" and so on.
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Seeing as it's their own blog then i'm pretty sure then can talk about whatever they want...
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On March 30 2010 22:32 writer22816 wrote: Do we really need a thread saying why MW2 sucks? Next thing you know people are going to be making threads like "DoW2 sucks", "C&C4 sucks", "Brawl sucks", "IdrA is BM" and so on. That's why it's a blog....
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You could have played MW1 and get a good sence of how MW2 would be (because of all the things you can rage about). Lol as a buyer of MW1 im not gonna give out any more money to those gameproducers.
gl hf
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Canada9720 Posts
karachi's a great map! agreed on wasteland though. everytime i join a game and the map is wasteland or rust my barrier to getting pissed and quitting becomes 10X lower.
i started playing BFBC:2 for the dedicated servers, but it's not the same. that game drives me nuts after i get spawn killed 5 times in a row in rush mode.
i wish everyone would go back to playing S&D in COD2. those were the good ol days
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good old mw1
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Meh, unmodded MW1 was a little broken as well if i recall correctly (in terms of gun balance [the mp5 was stupid]). But MW2 is broken in its own, fun little ways. I only play on the ps3 to burn some time when i'm really bored. Cs 1.6 > all.
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I thought this was gonna be about how bad the gameplay is and how the most important skill is hiding killing people who dont even see you.. Quake3 / qlive > all
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lol, and I thought I had it bad with BC2
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This is exactly how i've experienced mw2 aslo... although karachi is ok and wastelands sucks :p The game is the most rage inducing fps game ive ever played...
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5/5 would read again. Seriously play Starcraft 2, shooters are just.. meh-_- Either full of hackers or retards.
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Oh I completely forgot about hackers in MW2. If there's a hacker in the game there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Host can't kick, can't vote to kick, you just have to get your face gunned into oblivion or leave. I only really got MW2 because my friends play it and many people that don't really play games much at least play FPS. I may have to get SC2. The streams get me itching to play and a lot of people from previous games that I have played with are on it and doing well. On the other hand though you can't just play SC2. You either have to constantly improve which will suck up my time or just play a little bit which I cannot do because losing only fuels the need to get better
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you forgot to mention the lag when you kill someone / someone kills you. on the kill cam it shows them shooting 10 feet behind you and somehow it hits. yeah i stopped playing WorldAtWars multiplayer for basically the same reasons, but nazi zombies is still fun at least.
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I like MW2. I play on PC as well and the no dedicated servers does suck, but me and my clan never have to bad of a problem getting into games. And if the game sucks so much, just don't play it. I enjoy playing the game so I play it. If you're getting frustrated, go pick up another game like Bad Company 2 and see if that is more your cup of tea. (It's a great game btw, if you're more into the Battlefield style of FPS's).
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Yep. I stopped playing a long time ago.
Luckily we have Bad Company 2 now.
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Why did you buy it then? I love how all the people who bought into the hype are now whining that it sucks. Well guess what, foresight 1, you - ZERO. As far as COD series go, it's really been going to shit for years now, becoming more and more like what console fags like (Halo-ish and arcady)
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Why did I buy it? Because MW1 was a pretty solid game. I've been playing since the first CoD and how was i supposed to know how diabolically bad online is compared to playing on a dedicated server? I don't rage when it's hard as fuck to get a decent game, i rarely play the game at all now any way, only when my friends play but now we play less and less. It's just beyond annoying how terrible it is just getting into a game. Hell playing Birth of the Federation (sick game by the way) back in the day on MSN gaming zone was more solid than this. This IWnet is the worst online system i've ever come across. It's not a story of oh MW2 is a bad game, it's a story of how the fuck am i supposed to play the game when getting into a game is so dreadful. G18 fags and noob tubers i can deal with physically, i shoot them in the face and hopefully i don't see a white trail of a grenade pop me after i kill them. With the online however there is nothing i can do, it's grabbed my balls and wragging them around choosing what map i play, who i play and how much lag it wants to give me
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Damn people still play this broken game?. Go buy yourself BF:BC2 is a lot more fun to play.
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On March 31 2010 01:41 Sadistx wrote: Why did you buy it then? I love how all the people who bought into the hype are now whining that it sucks. Well guess what, foresight 1, you - ZERO. As far as COD series go, it's really been going to shit for years now, becoming more and more like what console fags like (Halo-ish and arcady)
what? foresight 1, you 0? The hell? Do you say that to anyone who tries something then doesn't like it? A friend tells me that this bagel shop is good and I go try a bagel and I don't like it - FORESIGHT 1, ME 0
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modern warfare2 is probably the worst FPS of 2009. hands down. It's completely imbalanced, there's a HUGE LOAD of random things happening and they're too lazy to fix them. Commando.. why is it so hard to reduce the length on it? Infinite noobtubes, best idea ever. So now that we have infinite noobtubes.. lets get a perk to make them even stronger.. done. Match making on PC ? No problem, hackers heaven.
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Sure, there are things that will piss you off...
On March 31 2010 03:33 YunhOLee wrote: Infinite noobtubes, best idea ever. So now that we have infinite noobtubes.. lets get a perk to make them even stronger.. done. But there are things that will make you rage hard enough to burn down someone's house.
On March 31 2010 00:00 Somehow noone here has mentioned: Akimbo shotguns. Rangers you don't even have to aim at someone to get a kill, so long as they're somewhere on your screen.
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Almost everything in your post is the reason behind the pre-backlash (forwardlash?) against MW2 not having dedicated servers. Compared to even the shittiest dedicated server system, the online experience of MW2 is complete utter garbage. Best advice is to just stay far away from the series and let it die unless they miraculously start giving a shit about their games.
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playing with friends is almost impossible, retarded method of joining games together (ps3 here)
and yes karachi sucks a fat one
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I couldn't ever get into MW2.. loved the first one. My favorite FPS is probably the CoD4 beta. I stopped playing MW2 maybe a week after it came out.
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Hey man, I feel you but I don't have that many problems with it anymore, plus, once you get attached to a decent host, the gaming continues good for a while.
I use to diss IWnet until I meet good ol' EA servers.
Trust me, iwnet VASTLY GREAATER THAN EA servers.
....f BC2.
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Yo dude. I have a lot of play time logged on MW2 for the 360, and my experiences are nothing like yours. Connection is pretty solid-- I lose connection to the host sometimes, but that's because I'm on my school network (doesn't happen at home).
I think it's just the PC version that's messed up. I'm sorry to hear about your bad times trying to get some decent gaming going though.
p.s.: I happen to like Karachi. Terminal can go to hell.
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On March 31 2010 05:49 Always wrote:p.s.: I happen to like Karachi. Terminal can go to hell. Pfft, Terminal is one of my favourite maps. I friggin hate Karachi though.
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let it all out man, let it all out
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you over exaggerate bad.
g18-noob tubers thats no exaggeration.
its like what tards use when they want to think they are good
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On March 31 2010 05:49 Always wrote: Yo dude. I have a lot of play time logged on MW2 for the 360, and my experiences are nothing like yours. Connection is pretty solid-- I lose connection to the host sometimes, but that's because I'm on my school network (doesn't happen at home).
I think it's just the PC version that's messed up. I'm sorry to hear about your bad times trying to get some decent gaming going though.
p.s.: I happen to like Karachi. Terminal can go to hell.
its different on the PC. theres a huge number of hackers (IW hack detection is pretty terrible), lag becomes a fact until you find a decent host and the gameplay is the most rage-inducing thing I've every played. I do have to say though, the gunplay is really well made and the battles are pretty entertaining as long as the enemy isn't abusing something.
Just makes it hurt even more when you realize how awesome the game could have been had there been dedicated servers... hackers would be votekicked, lag would be avoidable and the guns could even be balanced by the server admins.
fuck iw
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On March 31 2010 04:36 Apexplayer wrote: Hey man, I feel you but I don't have that many problems with it anymore, plus, once you get attached to a decent host, the gaming continues good for a while.
I use to diss IWnet until I meet good ol' EA servers.
Trust me, iwnet VASTLY GREAATER THAN EA servers.
....f BC2.
At least Bad Company 2 has the consolation of being able to play on servers other then EA's. With MW2, you are stuck with IWNET whether you like it or not.
EDIT. What the OP mentions is preety much what a lot of PC gamers expected to happen when the news regarding no dedicated servers was revealed. It is sad, really....so much lost potential beacuse of a dumb decision on Infinity Ward's part
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On March 31 2010 09:03 Tom Phoenix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 04:36 Apexplayer wrote: Hey man, I feel you but I don't have that many problems with it anymore, plus, once you get attached to a decent host, the gaming continues good for a while.
I use to diss IWnet until I meet good ol' EA servers.
Trust me, iwnet VASTLY GREAATER THAN EA servers.
....f BC2. At least Bad Company 2 has the consolation of being able to play on servers other then EA's. With MW2, you are stuck with IWNET whether you like it or not.
That's if EA's authentication servers are up and the server browser actually lets you connect! CoD4 had serious issues with that shit too so I skipped out on MW2, but BC2 isn't a paragon of good user experience either. I miss the days where you could refresh a server list in 10 seconds, get dozens of servers <50 ping, click on one and actually join without any difficulties. Why could gaming companies do this so easily in the 90's yet they can't do it in 2010? It seems like Valve is the only developer that gets it right, although it did take Steam 3-4 years to get a working friends list.
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play bc2 instead i had fun with mw2 first month or so then got boring rly quick
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On March 31 2010 03:45 MutaDoom wrote:Sure, there are things that will piss you off... Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 03:33 YunhOLee wrote: Infinite noobtubes, best idea ever. So now that we have infinite noobtubes.. lets get a perk to make them even stronger.. done. But there are things that will make you rage hard enough to burn down someone's house. Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 00:00 Somehow noone here has mentioned: Akimbo shotguns. Rangers you don't even have to aim at someone to get a kill, so long as they're somewhere on your screen.
OMFG that is so annoying. Seriously, I HATE those fuckbags that run around with those guns.
The game is fucking awful... I quit playing over a month ago.
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On March 31 2010 03:14 BalloonFight wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 01:41 Sadistx wrote: Why did you buy it then? I love how all the people who bought into the hype are now whining that it sucks. Well guess what, foresight 1, you - ZERO. As far as COD series go, it's really been going to shit for years now, becoming more and more like what console fags like (Halo-ish and arcady) what? foresight 1, you 0? The hell? Do you say that to anyone who tries something then doesn't like it? A friend tells me that this bagel shop is good and I go try a bagel and I don't like it - FORESIGHT 1, ME 0 Well, if the bagel shop says in advance that they don't serve cream cheese, and you don't like the bagel shop because the bagels have no flavor, then yes, it is a lack of foresight. There's the off-chance that the bagels themselves might be flavorful, but the fact that you don't have any cream cheese limits your potential options.
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is this about mech warrior 2? Cause that game owns.
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Canada9720 Posts
On March 31 2010 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote: is this about mech warrior 2? Cause that game owns. no man. this thread is about a game that people actually play(ed)
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On March 31 2010 12:24 CTStalker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote: is this about mech warrior 2? Cause that game owns. no man. this thread is about a game that people actually play(ed)
only charliemurphy man
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On March 31 2010 12:03 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 03:14 BalloonFight wrote:On March 31 2010 01:41 Sadistx wrote: Why did you buy it then? I love how all the people who bought into the hype are now whining that it sucks. Well guess what, foresight 1, you - ZERO. As far as COD series go, it's really been going to shit for years now, becoming more and more like what console fags like (Halo-ish and arcady) what? foresight 1, you 0? The hell? Do you say that to anyone who tries something then doesn't like it? A friend tells me that this bagel shop is good and I go try a bagel and I don't like it - FORESIGHT 1, ME 0 Well, if the bagel shop says in advance that they don't serve cream cheese, and you don't like the bagel shop because the bagels have no flavor, then yes, it is a lack of foresight. There's the off-chance that the bagels themselves might be flavorful, but the fact that you don't have any cream cheese limits your potential options.
Not quite a fair analogy. It's more like if you go to a bagel shop which advertises that it does, in fact, have cream cheese (but not the premium kind), but they don't advertise the fact that the cream cheese is diluted and mixed with dog shit.
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On March 31 2010 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote: is this about mech warrior 2?
tbh, that was my first thought
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i feel your pain, have played it a few times and its so annoying that you cant pick the map you want and you get disconnected from the host....annndd you have to wait like 3 minutes in between rounds, if you factor in the load time.
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i was thinking about buying this game but.. you dont sound too happy.
i guess the private servers are out then? aw man. that sucks. im so outdated lol but MW2 LOOKS fun as heck though.
thanks for the blog post though. i wouldnt have known otherwise
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I'm playing on PC and I haven't had connectivity problems that were my own fault since fixing my ports. No more "NAT Type: Strict." The problem is that you average Steam gamer:
- is probably a younger person with limited technical knowledge (they expect things to just work and should probably just get a console) - hasn't forwarded a single port for their game (or even the Steam Client for that matter) - is using a router provided by their ISP which typically means shit firmware and difficulty in making lasting configurations
I know for a fact the combo modem/routers that Comcast hands out have no way of disabling DHCP and I'm constantly updating the destination IPs for forwards on my friend's network.
Anyway, if more people RTFM a lot of issues would resolve themselves. PC gamers need to understand part of PC gaming is knowing how to use a computer; making sure all the hardware/software is in check. Xbox/PS3 users need to just set their console as a DMZ.
Aside from the occasional hacker I love the game. I mostly play Ground War (12 - 18 Player TDM / Domination) with only occasional lag and the game seems pretty good at deciding who the best host is going to be or what player should become host in the event of lag/host dropping.
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tbh, now that I have BC2 and SC2, there's absolutely no chance I go back to MW2
fucking piece of trash -_-
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On March 31 2010 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote: is this about mech warrior 2? Cause that game owns.
it did, i bought MW4: Mercenaries and that was pretty cool. There's a new Mechwarrior coming out too
Anyone ever play the Mechcommanders? They were pretty cool. It was all about the Hunter pilot dude, was sad when a pilot bit the bullet
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fuck MW2
BFBC2 is 10x more fun, 100x more things to do....
they should release some new maps though for conquest, rush is pretty much just a stratless bum rush.
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I don't care about MW2 anymore, I agree with this guy(and I play on xbox!) MW2 is a piece of shit, you always end up dying when you shot a guy with your WHOLE FUCKING CLIP! So, point is, fuck IW, I dare you not to buy MW3(if its coming out)
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lol. hit prestige on my first week got bored then left
tar + silence = level 70 in a day
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On March 31 2010 12:18 CharlieMurphy wrote: is this about mech warrior 2? Cause that game owns.
I was really confused even scrolling through this thing I thought this was about mech warrior 2
that game was awesome, so many great memories
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On April 16 2010 07:27 DreaM)XeRO wrote: lol. hit prestige on my first week got bored then left
tar + silence = level 70 in a day
is it even possible to hit prestige in a single week?
my god did you literally play all day every single day hundreds of hours straight?
Back in the short time I played I always top fragged literally every single time I played (so you know I was getting plenty of points or w/e XP or wtf it is) and I seem to remember the rate of leveling once you got up higher to be long enough to make that impossible
maybe i just wasn't nerding it out enough tho
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You forgot to mention that hosting basically turns you into a server and most ISP's don't like when you are hosting a server without a contract -.-
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On April 16 2010 19:18 -orb- wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2010 07:27 DreaM)XeRO wrote: lol. hit prestige on my first week got bored then left
tar + silence = level 70 in a day is it even possible to hit prestige in a single week? my god did you literally play all day every single day hundreds of hours straight? Back in the short time I played I always top fragged literally every single time I played (so you know I was getting plenty of points or w/e XP or wtf it is) and I seem to remember the rate of leveling once you got up higher to be long enough to make that impossible maybe i just wasn't nerding it out enough tho total recorded time for me to hit the ability to 1st prestige was like 2 days 12 hours(about 6-7 removed from me idleing eating etc)
so yeah its very possible..
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