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Chill
Calgary25938 Posts
Edit: Thanks to SarcasticOne for mixing them together! | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
I get to listen to Chill's beautiful voice! | ||
Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL | ||
emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
MODERATE TEMPERATURE FTW!!! :D edit: you fucked up, it's out of sync -_- | ||
CheAse
Canada919 Posts
Downloading now anyways | ||
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United States118 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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vdale
Germany1173 Posts
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + How did you manage to not kill yourself halfway through this? | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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RushWifDietCoke
United States488 Posts
LOL I thought the original cast was awesome, keep up the great work. | ||
emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On March 27 2011 12:59 Trezeguet wrote: We accept your apology. It takes a big man to admit he is wrong, and to fix his mistakes. Perhaps due to this scandal you should even consider stepping aside and letting a more professional commentator take the reins. + Show Spoiler + How did you manage to not kill yourself halfway through this? He cracks at like 3:43 or something and at 5:15 :p | ||
GTR
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined. | ||
Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
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Adeeler
United Kingdom764 Posts
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
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j3i
United States357 Posts
I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. User was temp banned for this post. Mod note: user was banned for stating he would be banned (martyring), not for his criticism. | ||
dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. well, you said the magic words. enjoy your ban. @op -- thanks for taking the time to ridicule them some more. | ||
goiflin
Canada1217 Posts
you did a great job today, chill | ||
Fzero
United States1503 Posts
.... /facepalm I love every nerd coming out of the woodwork expecting TSL3 to conform to exactly what they want to hear at all times. It's the age of the internet I guess. Never read anything you don't want to read or hear any opinions that don't validate your own. | ||
Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined. | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. Maybe cause his critique was completely ridiculous? | ||
hoepie
United Kingdom96 Posts
Minerals being mined Minerals being mined Integrity - defended Minerals being mined Minerals being mined Minerals being mined | ||
Chill
Calgary25938 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. If it was constructive criticism he would have PMd it to me directly to begin a discussion. Instead, he took the small man way out and made a thread asking "What does everyone else think?" Well, here's what I think. | ||
mucker
United States1120 Posts
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Sc1pio
United States823 Posts
I don't know if I can watch any more casts of the TeamNeutralMoonLeague by Moderate Temperature after this egergious error. | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:11 SubtleArt wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. Maybe cause his critique was completely ridiculous? Yea and he went on a huge diatribe about it when he could have gone in the feedback thread and wrote something along the lines of 'I dont think you need to hype the korean vs foriegner stuff so much' The whole thing was unnecessary. | ||
EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22222 Posts
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Binky1842
United States2599 Posts
lololol | ||
Whole
United States6046 Posts
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Enervate
United States1769 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. Maybe you misunderstood the purpose of this thread, but it's clearly an honest attempt by Chill to fix his many shortcomings as pointed out in the constructive criticism. I can't have imagined a better way for Chill to address the constructive criticism than by actually listening to it and fixing his previously outrageously biased commentary! | ||
Foreplay
United States1154 Posts
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Kinky
United States4126 Posts
We're sorry, the page you requested cannot be found. Oh man, I really want to see this T_T | ||
Cofo
United States1388 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States42213 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:23 Cofo wrote: Ustream page cannot be found, download file expired : / This. And this: I was looking forward to listening to the satire! Damn. | ||
Milkis
5003 Posts
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Banteng
United States147 Posts
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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BasilPesto
Australia624 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:12 Chill wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. If it was constructive criticism he would have PMd it to me directly to begin a discussion. Instead, he took the small man way out and made a thread asking "What does everyone else think?" Well, here's what I think. Are you saying that there is no way a TLer could offer constructive criticism by making a thread (and inviting opinion/discussion)? I think the fact that you are a public figure suggests that any criticism/discussion might also be of interest to the larger community. | ||
mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Chill
Calgary25938 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:34 BasilPesto wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2011 13:12 Chill wrote: On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. If it was constructive criticism he would have PMd it to me directly to begin a discussion. Instead, he took the small man way out and made a thread asking "What does everyone else think?" Well, here's what I think. Are you saying that there is no way a TLer could offer constructive criticism by making a thread (and inviting opinion/discussion)? I think the fact that you are a public figure suggests that any criticism/discussion might also be of interest to the larger community. No, I am not saying that. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States42213 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:27 Milkis wrote: http://www.whitecosmos.com/junk/TeamNeutralMoonLeague.mp3 Thanks! Pretty funny | ||
Eiii
United States2566 Posts
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xiaofan
United States513 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:35 mizU wrote: :[ I can't view or hear anything. Broken links abound. | ||
arcfyr
Canada121 Posts
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BasilPesto
Australia624 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:36 Chill wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2011 13:34 BasilPesto wrote: On March 27 2011 13:12 Chill wrote: On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. If it was constructive criticism he would have PMd it to me directly to begin a discussion. Instead, he took the small man way out and made a thread asking "What does everyone else think?" Well, here's what I think. Are you saying that there is no way a TLer could offer constructive criticism by making a thread (and inviting opinion/discussion)? I think the fact that you are a public figure suggests that any criticism/discussion might also be of interest to the larger community. No, I am not saying that. Would you care to clarify? Is criticism only constructive when offered and discussed in private? | ||
Kaal
Djibouti2213 Posts
Would you care to clarify? Is criticism only constructive when offered and discussed in private? When the criticism is silly there is no place where it's constructive. If you want commentary with a korean bias go to a korean stream, if you want a foreigner bias go to TL, if you want an unbiased commentary then try and listen to the commentary from MARS. Because that's where you're most likely to find it. | ||
HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
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Phelix
1931 Posts
haha at Phone message received. | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36362 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:45 BasilPesto wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2011 13:36 Chill wrote: On March 27 2011 13:34 BasilPesto wrote: On March 27 2011 13:12 Chill wrote: On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. If it was constructive criticism he would have PMd it to me directly to begin a discussion. Instead, he took the small man way out and made a thread asking "What does everyone else think?" Well, here's what I think. Are you saying that there is no way a TLer could offer constructive criticism by making a thread (and inviting opinion/discussion)? I think the fact that you are a public figure suggests that any criticism/discussion might also be of interest to the larger community. No, I am not saying that. Would you care to clarify? Is criticism only constructive when offered and discussed in private? Chill is saying is that constructive criticism is fine. We have website feedback and TSL forum etc and we have responded quite honestly and openly to that type of criticism. What Chill is also saying is that he does not feel that thread criticizing commentary is constructive, but rather that the thread was ridiculous. | ||
garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:27 Milkis wrote: http://www.whitecosmos.com/junk/TeamNeutralMoonLeague.mp3 The video part is broken now too I guess I'll just have to listen to it. | ||
Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
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CrazyF1r3f0x
United States2120 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. User was temp banned for this post. Mod note: user was banned for stating he would be banned (martyring), not for his criticism. Or he was just having some fun, Chill out man. | ||
n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Now that the bias is gone, maybe it's time to address caster concentration. During the cast moderate temperature was obviously distracted for seconds by a phone message, he could have missed precious seconds of mining, drops, or entire engagements! + Show Spoiler + jk, was a fun listen | ||
Lemonayd
United States745 Posts
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NevilleS
Canada266 Posts
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
I can't download the audio for some reason, but just reading the posts was HILARIOUS >~< heheheh | ||
Conversion
United States3308 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:58 Entropic wrote: I think minerals are getting preferential treatment in this cast. Do a more moderate, balanced and unbiased cast please. I second this notion. You obviously have not learned from your previous mistakes... sigh, casters these days. | ||
Jigato
United States2 Posts
(But seriously Chill, start off your next commentary with Oh player X in the left corner is going to mine minerals, looks like there are minerals being mined, and OH! opponent! mining minerals as well!!!1!!1!!1!!) | ||
Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
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Bswhunter
Australia954 Posts
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Poo
Canada536 Posts
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puppykiller
United States3125 Posts
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Zim23
United States1681 Posts
Ability used!!!!! | ||
xilaratu
United States233 Posts
laughed quite hard to this one =] | ||
Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Way to be wishy-washy Charlie Chill Brown. Lacks more precision of how many minerals are being mined, in my opinion this cast was too neutral, I couldn't pay attention to the match because I was too focued on figuring who's side the caster was on. | ||
dartoo
India2889 Posts
Units not seeing anything! Unit queued up to scout lol! | ||
Umbrella
Taiwan936 Posts
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rei
United States3593 Posts
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
haha. This was hilarious, it points out that being objective not only is boring for entertainment purposes, but that to say anything is basically other than what is happening, there is bound to be some bias. | ||
RedLuck
Canada253 Posts
LOL i can just see chill sitting there saying "minerals being mined.. minerals being mined..." | ||
myrmidon2537
Philippines2188 Posts
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tainted muffin
United States158 Posts
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joheinous
Iceland522 Posts
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shindigs
United States4795 Posts
"structure complete" "unit used ability" "unit lost" | ||
DrivE
United States2554 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
I'm glad we finally have the answer to people who complain about things like this | ||
stormtemplar
United States2140 Posts
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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gimmeateeshitkent
Australia80 Posts
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eluv
United States1251 Posts
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Reason.SC2
Canada1047 Posts
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Stratoss
Czech Republic129 Posts
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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DivinO
United States4796 Posts
Edit: Agreed, why is this not featured? | ||
Versita
Canada1032 Posts
At the start, I thought it was just going to be a loop of "minerals being mined" for a couple of minutes. I'm so glad I listened to the rest of it haha. | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
And, from the OP of the thread linked in OP Every single move, every single engagement, every single match and the reflections made based on the outcome was focuced on the korean players nationality. This is coming from someone who say this in the very same post Now I was cheering for the koreans, as I always do So, he is allowed to cheer for people only based on their nationality, but Chill isn't allowed to cast about it, great "logic". | ||
ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
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Alur
Denmark3899 Posts
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Tipany
United States368 Posts
Ah, good retort, good retort | ||
Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
(jk) | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
That being said, I must mine more minerals. | ||
Jayson X
Switzerland2431 Posts
Great response! Oh and the few comments about you having to be more profesional for the sake of e-sports made me angry. Fuck these people!! Yes I said it. Seriously, I'm having enough of it. This is about gaming & fun here and not about "what can we flame today". Some people really need to take the stick out their asses and get out because im tired of wading through pages and pages of negativity. TSL3 is an amazing tournament, Husky stepped up his game for a dual cast completely and you both were doing great. I can't wait for todays games! | ||
eoLithic
Norway221 Posts
I said that I would appreciate it the focuse on koreans vs. foreigners were toned down abit. Making it look like I ment that the casting should be anything like this, huh? If this is what you get in response when trying to help someone you admire, and while stating that several times, well then awesome=D Trying to discusse this with a person like Chill is just pointless, seeing as he has so much more support than me anyways. As I stated in my post concerning your casting. I admire your casting and thought the casting bit were amazing, but that the focuse on the "you-know-what" took away alot from the games. | ||
smileyyy
Germany1816 Posts
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Utkrossaren
Sweden39 Posts
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Myles
United States5162 Posts
On March 27 2011 19:40 eoLithic wrote: Chill. I said that I would appreciate it the focuse on koreans vs. foreigners were toned down abit. Making it look like I ment that the casting should be anything like this, huh? If this is what you get in response when trying to help someone you admire, and while stating that several times, well then awesome=D Trying to discusse this with a person like Chill is just pointless, seeing as he has so much more support than me anyways. As I stated in my post concerning your casting. I admire your casting and thought the casting bit were amazing, but that the focuse on the "you-know-what" took away alot from the games. You wrote a huge OP about it when this was all that was needed in a feedback thread. You made a way bigger deal than it needed to be. | ||
Rizare
Canada592 Posts
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palanq
United States761 Posts
edit: harvest* | ||
Owii
United States357 Posts
I've liked all of the commentaries so far, and I'm looking forward to Chill and Wheat casting together (when will that be btw?). Don't let the vocal minority drag you down. | ||
Teeny
Austria885 Posts
Well done. | ||
Count9
China10928 Posts
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13542 Posts
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iSometric
2221 Posts
Minerals being mined. | ||
Char711
United States862 Posts
On March 27 2011 22:11 Myles wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2011 19:40 eoLithic wrote: Chill. I said that I would appreciate it the focuse on koreans vs. foreigners were toned down abit. Making it look like I ment that the casting should be anything like this, huh? If this is what you get in response when trying to help someone you admire, and while stating that several times, well then awesome=D Trying to discusse this with a person like Chill is just pointless, seeing as he has so much more support than me anyways. As I stated in my post concerning your casting. I admire your casting and thought the casting bit were amazing, but that the focuse on the "you-know-what" took away alot from the games. You wrote a huge OP about it when this was all that was needed in a feedback thread. You made a way bigger deal than it needed to be. He's right. You blew it way out of proportion and are now trying to look like a victim. You're not. | ||
bITt.mAN
Switzerland3687 Posts
Can someone please mirror it, I want to hear the minerals get mined! | ||
eLiE
Canada1039 Posts
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Turgid
United States1623 Posts
I guess I don't care too much if casters are biased. Tastosis do it all the time | ||
chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11132 Posts
On March 27 2011 16:37 shindigs wrote: This sounds like a C&C game looool "structure complete" "unit used ability" "unit lost" I know, right? I was just waiting for "insufficient funds" "insufficient funds" "silos needed" "silos needed" "silos needed" Ugh. Bad memories are spewing forth, even worse than missed depots/pylons/overlords. | ||
garbanzo
United States4046 Posts
If only I was at home on my desktop and not on my laptop then I could put them together. I still haven't had the full experience. | ||
neSix
United States1772 Posts
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McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
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Straught
Mexico157 Posts
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Lemonwalrus
United States5465 Posts
Got Milkis to reupload. Thanks Milkis! | ||
SlimeBagly
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
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aqui
Germany1023 Posts
On March 27 2011 17:19 Reason.SC2 wrote: I don't know... when you said unit killed that seemed pretty biased to me. You sounded happy about it and the neutral player may find that offensive. Also there is a clear bias in this commentary towards minerals. Not cool. Towards minerals?? LMAO, you vespin fanboys are killing me with your blindness to everything of the non gaseous persuasion. Clearly there was more minerals beeing mined than vespin gas but both got the same attention. | ||
tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On March 28 2011 21:57 SlimeBagly wrote: Edit: nevermind, I love you too much to make a cheapshot What's a cheaper shot than to say "I could do this to you if I wanted to but I'm way too nice to do it"? | ||
BaltA
Norway849 Posts
It was so good try!! I died.. " structure complete, unit warped in, minerals been mined" hahaha | ||
Char711
United States862 Posts
But Chill, I heard some emotion there. And those chuckles made me think you favored one player over the other. We don't want to make it look like we're favoring either player even when one is clearly winning, after all. | ||
tritonice
United States119 Posts
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
On March 27 2011 12:48 Chill wrote: It has come to my attention that the TSL commentary may have been too edgy and bias for many of our members. In order to meet their needs, I have rerecorded the TSL commentary being careful to remain neutral. In order to watch the commentary: Open Download This MP3 via You Send it Update Download: Show nested quote + On March 27 2011 13:27 Milkis wrote: http://www.whitecosmos.com/junk/TeamNeutralMoonLeague.mp3 Unpause them together. DL: [url blocked] Whoa Chill, why has the topic been closed and I can't reply to him? :/ This totally sucks... well thanks (Yeh it might have saved me from a ban) Cheers, JD | ||
cullam
United States20 Posts
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nekuodah
England2409 Posts
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ShallNoiseUpon
United States311 Posts
On March 29 2011 10:19 cullam wrote: John Madden needs to cast a game of Starcraft. No telestrator for him to use. | ||
ggrated
91 Posts
Btw, did anyone catch if any minerals were being mined? | ||
Cha1R
United States221 Posts
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dANiELcanuck
Canada217 Posts
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EcterA
United States949 Posts
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
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Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
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TOCHMY
Sweden1692 Posts
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s.a.y
Croatia3840 Posts
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Logginurkeyz
United States375 Posts
Chill is clearly biased, and thusly should henceforth be replaced by ModerateTemperature. | ||
omnikaush
United States49 Posts
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briandotcom0
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
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RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
On March 29 2011 10:52 omnikaush wrote: Hey, can you re-upload the mp3 file? The two links on the front page are broken, and I can't use megaupload... Seconded. Really really want to hear this cast. Chill for president! | ||
CaptnAsia
United States61 Posts
A++ would be neutral again! | ||
Motion
Germany183 Posts
keep up the good work chill, you are my favorite, together with tastosis and NuketheStars | ||
VGhost
United States3602 Posts
Would Chill allow this? | ||
SwEEt[TearS]
Canada1575 Posts
also the commentator is not talking about gas being mined, what is up with that? | ||
McKTenor13
United States1383 Posts
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FILM
United States663 Posts
excuse me for going off the cuff there I died laughing. | ||
blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
oh man...now I'm gonna have Chill's voice saying "minerals being mined" stuck in my head all throughout the rest of today and tomorrow. | ||
sputnik.theory
Poland449 Posts
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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Gecko
United States519 Posts
minerals being mined, unit scouting, ability used, minerals being mined, minerals being mined. | ||
Crackensan
United States479 Posts
Go Chill. :D | ||
leandroqm
Netherlands874 Posts
On March 29 2011 11:06 Motion wrote: Chill does an awesome job at casting tsl3, this criticizing thread is indeed ridicules... keep up the good work chill, you are my favorite, together with tastosis and NuketheStars You saved me the trouble to write it all.. | ||
Agiz
Iceland28 Posts
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takkatakka
United States48 Posts
He should have been saying which unit from what player to avoid any confusion for the viewers. The laughing was also very unprofessional. | ||
MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
TL, replace this guy. Come on. | ||
VforVinDiesel
United States41 Posts
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Brewed Tea
United States124 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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justdweezil
United States186 Posts
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Defeat
United States476 Posts
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SarcasticOne
Australia213 Posts
On March 29 2011 11:49 Crackensan wrote: Someone needs to mash these togeather and put it up on youtube. ♥ Go Chill. :D working on it now | ||
Wolf
Korea (South)3289 Posts
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HawaiianPig
Canada5154 Posts
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Turo
Canada333 Posts
Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. EDIT: And now the original thread is closed. I wonder why? EDIT #2: Link to original thread. | ||
Dwarsen
Sweden13 Posts
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rycho
United States360 Posts
On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. | ||
MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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bjornkavist
Canada1235 Posts
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Steel
Japan2283 Posts
You guys have been doing awesome casting keep it up. | ||
oogles
United States29 Posts
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Ctoan
Australia75 Posts
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soliddew
United States28 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. | ||
SarcasticOne
Australia213 Posts
enjoy! | ||
pezyuan
United States23 Posts
hahahaha thanks XD | ||
Turo
Canada333 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:18 Ctoan wrote: God, some of these responses are taking this way too seriously. It's like no one can have a sense of humour. I really hope all this crap doesn't discourage TL from running another one of these tournaments. On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I can see myself having an opinion like eoLithic's, posting it, then getting laughed at by a representative of teamliquid and TSL3. I'm merely trying to point out that if teamliquid wants to have a professional appearance, then maybe this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes this IS funny, but maybe it shouldn't be featured on the front page... | ||
LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
OMGOMGOMGOGMG MINERALS BEING MINEDUUUUUUUUU MINUUUUUU MINUUUUU but neutral, of course ;] | ||
raincat
United States28 Posts
Did either of you bother to read the rest of this thread? Both Chill and HotBid have posted in this thread saying that there is a place for criticism of TSL casting, and it is not in a brand new thread. There are feedback threads for that sort of thing, and this has been said multiple times already in this thread alone. PMs are also good. These are the correct ways to try to give feedback. This recasted cast is trying to make light of the fact that the guy found it necessary to create a whole new thread topic about his opinion of one caster in one part of one tournament, and turn it into a much bigger deal than it needed to be, especially when there is already another thread dedicated to that. It was ridiculous. Thus the ridiculous response. PS. If you're concerned that any part of this is going to harm the growth and legitimization of esports, then become a caster and show us how to do it right. For now, we like Chill. But thank you for your opinions. | ||
Chill
Calgary25938 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:33 Turo wrote: On March 29 2011 13:18 Ctoan wrote: God, some of these responses are taking this way too seriously. It's like no one can have a sense of humour. I really hope all this crap doesn't discourage TL from running another one of these tournaments. Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I can see myself having an opinion like eoLithic's, posting it, then getting laughed at by a representative of teamliquid and TSL3. I'm merely trying to point out that if teamliquid wants to have a professional appearance, then maybe this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes this IS funny, but maybe it shouldn't be featured on the front page... Come on, if he really didn't like one theme of the dozens of TSL, does he really need to make a thread for it? There's several better avenues (PMing me, using the feedback thread, dealing with it). Is it reasonable to make a thread every time someone doesn't like one thing about the TSL? | ||
Dox
Australia1199 Posts
So awesome. Anyone who whines needs to stop taking themselves so seriously. There's a place in eSports for fun AND professionalism. The TSL is both. | ||
Turo
Canada333 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:44 Chill wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 13:33 Turo wrote: On March 29 2011 13:18 Ctoan wrote: God, some of these responses are taking this way too seriously. It's like no one can have a sense of humour. I really hope all this crap doesn't discourage TL from running another one of these tournaments. On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I can see myself having an opinion like eoLithic's, posting it, then getting laughed at by a representative of teamliquid and TSL3. I'm merely trying to point out that if teamliquid wants to have a professional appearance, then maybe this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes this IS funny, but maybe it shouldn't be featured on the front page... Come on, if he really didn't like one theme of the dozens of TSL, does he really need to make a thread for it? There's several better avenues (PMing me, using the feedback thread, dealing with it). Is it reasonable to make a thread every time someone doesn't like one thing about the TSL? Indeed, he could have voiced his opinions in a more appropriate forum. My question is: Is it reasonable to make fun of him on the front page of TL? Perhaps that is where our opinions differ. That's all I got. | ||
Chill
Calgary25938 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:49 Turo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 13:44 Chill wrote: On March 29 2011 13:33 Turo wrote: On March 29 2011 13:18 Ctoan wrote: God, some of these responses are taking this way too seriously. It's like no one can have a sense of humour. I really hope all this crap doesn't discourage TL from running another one of these tournaments. On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I can see myself having an opinion like eoLithic's, posting it, then getting laughed at by a representative of teamliquid and TSL3. I'm merely trying to point out that if teamliquid wants to have a professional appearance, then maybe this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes this IS funny, but maybe it shouldn't be featured on the front page... Come on, if he really didn't like one theme of the dozens of TSL, does he really need to make a thread for it? There's several better avenues (PMing me, using the feedback thread, dealing with it). Is it reasonable to make a thread every time someone doesn't like one thing about the TSL? Indeed, he could have voiced his opinions in a more appropriate forum. My question is: Is it reasonable to make fun of him on the front page of TL? Perhaps that is where our opinions differ. That's all I got. I didn't put it on the front page. | ||
Conversion
United States3308 Posts
What a rookie mistake. | ||
Onlinejaguar
Australia2823 Posts
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No_Roo
United States905 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:53 Chill wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 13:49 Turo wrote: On March 29 2011 13:44 Chill wrote: On March 29 2011 13:33 Turo wrote: On March 29 2011 13:18 Ctoan wrote: God, some of these responses are taking this way too seriously. It's like no one can have a sense of humour. I really hope all this crap doesn't discourage TL from running another one of these tournaments. On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I can see myself having an opinion like eoLithic's, posting it, then getting laughed at by a representative of teamliquid and TSL3. I'm merely trying to point out that if teamliquid wants to have a professional appearance, then maybe this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes this IS funny, but maybe it shouldn't be featured on the front page... Come on, if he really didn't like one theme of the dozens of TSL, does he really need to make a thread for it? There's several better avenues (PMing me, using the feedback thread, dealing with it). Is it reasonable to make a thread every time someone doesn't like one thing about the TSL? Indeed, he could have voiced his opinions in a more appropriate forum. My question is: Is it reasonable to make fun of him on the front page of TL? Perhaps that is where our opinions differ. That's all I got. I didn't put it on the front page. Hey now, let's keep this civil. | ||
weaknurse
Australia320 Posts
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KwarK
United States40776 Posts
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PickleWeasel
Australia41 Posts
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rUiNati0n
United States1155 Posts
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Lace
Australia6 Posts
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arioch
England403 Posts
Minerals being mined... Minerals being mined... | ||
SarcasticOne
Australia213 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:27 PickleWeasel wrote: Is this a segment of the actual VOD or the video that Chill has used in response to the criticism? I can't tell. it was one of the original casts in TSL that he recasted and uploaded a MP3 i just muted the original video and inserted the MP3 on top | ||
Aelonius
Netherlands432 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:44 Chill wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:33 Turo wrote: On March 29 2011 13:18 Ctoan wrote: God, some of these responses are taking this way too seriously. It's like no one can have a sense of humour. I really hope all this crap doesn't discourage TL from running another one of these tournaments. Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I can see myself having an opinion like eoLithic's, posting it, then getting laughed at by a representative of teamliquid and TSL3. I'm merely trying to point out that if teamliquid wants to have a professional appearance, then maybe this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes this IS funny, but maybe it shouldn't be featured on the front page... Come on, if he really didn't like one theme of the dozens of TSL, does he really need to make a thread for it? There's several better avenues (PMing me, using the feedback thread, dealing with it). Is it reasonable to make a thread every time someone doesn't like one thing about the TSL? Chill. I have to honestly admit that I have yet to watch the video's and that I only reply from what I see happening now. That being said I personally feel a bit uneasy if we're getting such a response if there's critism on quite an important aspect of the TSL. Sure, there are other ways but we're on a forum here where (if in appropriate tones) we can/could discuss about subjects like the casting. What bothers me is that you're the only one bringing this reply out as a caster, possibly being offensive and just plain rude if I was in his position. Do not take this personal, but if you dislike public critism about your style of casting, is casting truly what you should do? I mean, I can appreciate the hilarious video, but it is a bit edgy and I can imagine for PR it's not really a super good thing either. What I hope is that over time, you will be open to public discussion, as when you're not you kind of only hurt the community that supports you and others | ||
PickleWeasel
Australia41 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:50 SarcasticOne wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 14:27 PickleWeasel wrote: Is this a segment of the actual VOD or the video that Chill has used in response to the criticism? I can't tell. it was one of the original casts in TSL that he recasted and uploaded a MP3 i just muted the original video and inserted the MP3 on top I was being sarcastic, was making fun of him because all of his casts are this bland and mundane. | ||
PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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imJealous
United States1382 Posts
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OTL
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da_head
Canada3350 Posts
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Deuces
United States18 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:53 Savreth wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 13:44 Chill wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:33 Turo wrote: On March 29 2011 13:18 Ctoan wrote: God, some of these responses are taking this way too seriously. It's like no one can have a sense of humour. I really hope all this crap doesn't discourage TL from running another one of these tournaments. Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I can see myself having an opinion like eoLithic's, posting it, then getting laughed at by a representative of teamliquid and TSL3. I'm merely trying to point out that if teamliquid wants to have a professional appearance, then maybe this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes this IS funny, but maybe it shouldn't be featured on the front page... Come on, if he really didn't like one theme of the dozens of TSL, does he really need to make a thread for it? There's several better avenues (PMing me, using the feedback thread, dealing with it). Is it reasonable to make a thread every time someone doesn't like one thing about the TSL? Chill. I have to honestly admit that I have yet to watch the video's and that I only reply from what I see happening now. That being said I personally feel a bit uneasy if we're getting such a response if there's critism on quite an important aspect of the TSL. Sure, there are other ways but we're on a forum here where (if in appropriate tones) we can/could discuss about subjects like the casting. What bothers me is that you're the only one bringing this reply out as a caster, possibly being offensive and just plain rude if I was in his position. Do not take this personal, but if you dislike public critism about your style of casting, is casting truly what you should do? I mean, I can appreciate the hilarious video, but it is a bit edgy and I can imagine for PR it's not really a super good thing either. What I hope is that over time, you will be open to public discussion, as when you're not you kind of only hurt the community that supports you and others I have to agree. Pretty unprofessional in my opinion. Some of us (obviously quite a few just want funny videos) hold those of you in the e-sports limelight to a pretty high standard. If this video would have been posted by any other random TLer I wouldn't have cared. Maybe I'm being overly sensitive but this thread just feels mean spirited. Why is this in the Spotlight? | ||
rycho
United States360 Posts
On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. i do watch it, i just mute the commentary =] i think those that enjoy it are rather vapid, but to each his own i suppose | ||
DmdSeno
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
Like tennis is pretty damn international, and the English/British (duno proper term for this) commentators tend to be pretty unbiased, but once another Brit appears on screen they tend to be a little biased...it ain't too bad. | ||
Kreb
4834 Posts
On March 29 2011 14:53 Savreth wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:44 Chill wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:33 Turo wrote: On March 29 2011 13:18 Ctoan wrote: God, some of these responses are taking this way too seriously. It's like no one can have a sense of humour. I really hope all this crap doesn't discourage TL from running another one of these tournaments. Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I can see myself having an opinion like eoLithic's, posting it, then getting laughed at by a representative of teamliquid and TSL3. I'm merely trying to point out that if teamliquid wants to have a professional appearance, then maybe this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes this IS funny, but maybe it shouldn't be featured on the front page... Come on, if he really didn't like one theme of the dozens of TSL, does he really need to make a thread for it? There's several better avenues (PMing me, using the feedback thread, dealing with it). Is it reasonable to make a thread every time someone doesn't like one thing about the TSL? Chill. I have to honestly admit that I have yet to watch the video's and that I only reply from what I see happening now. That being said I personally feel a bit uneasy if we're getting such a response if there's critism on quite an important aspect of the TSL. Sure, there are other ways but we're on a forum here where (if in appropriate tones) we can/could discuss about subjects like the casting. What bothers me is that you're the only one bringing this reply out as a caster, possibly being offensive and just plain rude if I was in his position. Do not take this personal, but if you dislike public critism about your style of casting, is casting truly what you should do? I mean, I can appreciate the hilarious video, but it is a bit edgy and I can imagine for PR it's not really a super good thing either. What I hope is that over time, you will be open to public discussion, as when you're not you kind of only hurt the community that supports you and others Gonna have to agree with this too. The intial criticism was well written and well put. Was he right? Thats up to anyone to decide from his own point of view and whether they agree or disagree with what was said. But, as the target of the criticism, if you dont agree the best thing to do is probably to either to reply to him in the thread or just ignore it (ignoring is fine, imagine how much someone like Husky would have to spend readin TL if he were to answer all criticism from random users). But making this video, as fun as it was, just put a sour taste in my mouth and it really didn't seem like a professional way to handle criticism. And I very much disagree with the decision to put it in the spotlight. | ||
nitdkim
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legatus legionis
Netherlands559 Posts
"I think I can add something to the discussion. It about ways casters present information. I think it was Tyler who said it on Sotg once and it really opened my eyes. What his point came down to is excitement/surprise is a big part of watching a cast. If there is an attack happening and you show the defender will have x and hold it off. You watch the attack unfold and pretty much know whats gonna happen. Whereas if you actively decide to withold that information so that when you watch the attack happen, you have no clue, it could go either way, omg hes losing and bam, x finishes or pops out and he manages to defend it, that was close! Why I feel it was so interesting is because it allows you to sort of rationalise flaws in casting. There are so many people who feel the need to point out small errors and what not, while you could easily not care and even think about what positive stuff it can actually adds. You have to apply this with common sense, it's not a guideline or end all view just something to explore from time to time. Now to come back to the point of the casting being swayed what is deemed unfairly by some, it's easy to say the, what I presume passionate and maybe slight exgaguration, adds a lot of that excitement. And that's just what it is. Making the game fun to watch." | ||
Comeh
United States18918 Posts
Everyone making a big deal out of this needs to chill out and enjoy starcraft. If it were too professional, it would be boring. If it were too unprofessional, it would be bad. It is neither. It's perfect and entertaining. | ||
shineq
United Kingdom1453 Posts
GET OUT OF MY HEAD CHILL! But seriously, it's obvious that a commentator is going to be biased to one player, we're all still just fans after all. And this adds a bit to the excitement and entertainment. | ||
Ivs
Australia139 Posts
On March 29 2011 15:59 Kreb wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 14:53 Savreth wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:44 Chill wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:33 Turo wrote: On March 29 2011 13:18 Ctoan wrote: God, some of these responses are taking this way too seriously. It's like no one can have a sense of humour. I really hope all this crap doesn't discourage TL from running another one of these tournaments. Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 13:21 soliddew wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 29 2011 13:00 rycho wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 12:54 Turo wrote: I think it's unfortunate that a guy expressing his honest opinion in a thread on TL gets belittled with a response of this nature. eoLithic clearly is a Chill fan, as he stated in his thread several times. I believe his intent was clear, he didn't like the whole korean/foreigner vibe from the casts, and was trying to voice his opinion in such a way that would be acceptable to everyone. Obviously I don't know what PM's were exchanged, but Chill's public response, this blog, seems like a childish way to go about things. This feels like a very thinly veiled attempt to make fun of eoLithic, and brush his concerns aside. Now if this was simply a personal matter, no one would give a fuck I'm sure. But this isn't. Chill is in the spotlight, and this is how he chooses to express himself in this spotlight. I can't think of any professional sports commentators/casters that would address legitimate concerns in this way. Now this is all opinion, and feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but I think teamliquid and specifically TSL3 should handle legitimate concerns more professionally, and with a unified front, a PR department if you will. This could only benefit future TSL's and solidify SCII as a legitimate E-sport in the minds of regular people, who have only a passing interest in the game. Any criticism welcome. Thanks for reading. i completely agree with you, and the fact that this blog is now featured is kind of sad to me. eolithic didn't say anything too harsh in my opinion, and i think he has a valid concern - i get tired of the korea vs foreigner thing being rammed down my throat every single match too. i also think its possible that english is possibly not his primary language, but i think he still makes his point in a civil and polite way. this blog to me just comes off as bratty and childish, and i think its too bad because this is the first negative thing i've had to say about anything having to do with tsl until now. i'm enjoying it a lot and i think it has been run exceedingly well, but i think people should have the power to criticize it without being made fun of and basically bullied. if you don't want to have it rammed down your throat, then don't watch it. easy as that. most of the community enjoys it, so it happens. I guess the thing that bothers me the most is that I can see myself having an opinion like eoLithic's, posting it, then getting laughed at by a representative of teamliquid and TSL3. I'm merely trying to point out that if teamliquid wants to have a professional appearance, then maybe this sort of thing shouldn't go on. Yes this IS funny, but maybe it shouldn't be featured on the front page... Come on, if he really didn't like one theme of the dozens of TSL, does he really need to make a thread for it? There's several better avenues (PMing me, using the feedback thread, dealing with it). Is it reasonable to make a thread every time someone doesn't like one thing about the TSL? Chill. I have to honestly admit that I have yet to watch the video's and that I only reply from what I see happening now. That being said I personally feel a bit uneasy if we're getting such a response if there's critism on quite an important aspect of the TSL. Sure, there are other ways but we're on a forum here where (if in appropriate tones) we can/could discuss about subjects like the casting. What bothers me is that you're the only one bringing this reply out as a caster, possibly being offensive and just plain rude if I was in his position. Do not take this personal, but if you dislike public critism about your style of casting, is casting truly what you should do? I mean, I can appreciate the hilarious video, but it is a bit edgy and I can imagine for PR it's not really a super good thing either. What I hope is that over time, you will be open to public discussion, as when you're not you kind of only hurt the community that supports you and others Gonna have to agree with this too. The intial criticism was well written and well put. Was he right? Thats up to anyone to decide from his own point of view and whether they agree or disagree with what was said. But, as the target of the criticism, if you dont agree the best thing to do is probably to either to reply to him in the thread or just ignore it (ignoring is fine, imagine how much someone like Husky would have to spend readin TL if he were to answer all criticism from random users). But making this video, as fun as it was, just put a sour taste in my mouth and it really didn't seem like a professional way to handle criticism. And I very much disagree with the decision to put it in the spotlight. People need to lighten up. Regardless of the initial criticism, this video is just making fun of the situation, which includes both Chill and the preceeding criticism. Sure, there are ways casting can be improved in a professional tournament, subjecting to various personal opinions. But surely you can see that this is no more than a fun jab at the whole debate, rather than a serious response or debate on the issue. Laugh and move on, it's the internet. | ||
Stuv
Netherlands942 Posts
All I have in my head right now is: Minerals being mined! =[ | ||
SmoKim
Denmark10277 Posts
this is (almost) as good as the BiggerT cast, couldn't stop laughing | ||
Seronei
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Bloodash
Netherlands1384 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
On March 29 2011 16:42 Seronei wrote: This video is biased, camera is almost always watching the terran player. This is unacceptable! Well, he had more minerals being mined because of the mules | ||
DeathNTaxes
United States79 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
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StillRooney
Sweden106 Posts
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noproblem
United Kingdom161 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
What about gas? | ||
Pekkz
Norway1505 Posts
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mardi
United States1164 Posts
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Chriamon
United States886 Posts
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Fabozi
Slovakia336 Posts
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404.Delirium
United States1190 Posts
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On March 29 2011 17:56 Chriamon wrote: Why is this even spotlighted? Its really stupid, and the only reason it is spotlighted is because of teamliquid's bias towards chill. It's spotlighted because it is hilarious. It has nothing to do with who made it. If a community member made this, I assure you it would be spotlighted too because it is hilarious. They often spotlight funny things. | ||
Tegin
United States840 Posts
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Ezkaton
Japan416 Posts
I gotta say that started to creep me out after a while. But i get your point | ||
FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
or someone else will ;D Seriously though this shit is too funny especially considering why it was made, awesome stuff :D | ||
RoyalCheese
Czech Republic745 Posts
edit...i would actually love watch a full match or two like this :D | ||
Atticus.axl
United States456 Posts
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Ziken
Ghana1743 Posts
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Groslouser
France337 Posts
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Clearout
Norway1060 Posts
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
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awha
Denmark1358 Posts
brilliant response | ||
Cele
Germany4012 Posts
User was temp banned for this post. Last edit: 2011-03-27 13:22:16 Mod note: user was banned for stating he would be banned (martyring), not for his criticism. to my opinion, this user wasnt "martyring" to draw attention to his post, but expressing his fear of beeing banned as a result of posting. While i do not believe, that his concerns were true, i would say the expression of this sentiment clearly is. Ironically you supported his notion in a twisted way by banning him. So im just asking myself, would it have been wiser, to not ban him and thusly proving him wrong? | ||
EchOne
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cHicKeLoR
Germany559 Posts
makes you wnat to hear the voice ingame everytime u get mins :D | ||
shell
Portugal2722 Posts
i tought the commentaries from day 4 were expecially good! | ||
mnesthes
5433 Posts
Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined. Structure created. Minerals being mined. | ||
MagmaRam
United States395 Posts
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Jyon
United Kingdom39 Posts
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Hunterai
Thailand842 Posts
:-D LO-fucking-L | ||
Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
On March 29 2011 20:02 Cele wrote: Show nested quote + User was temp banned for this post. Last edit: 2011-03-27 13:22:16 Mod note: user was banned for stating he would be banned (martyring), not for his criticism. to my opinion, this user wasnt "martyring" to draw attention to his post, but expressing his fear of beeing banned as a result of posting. While i do not believe, that his concerns were true, i would say the expression of this sentiment clearly is. Ironically you supported his notion in a twisted way by banning him. So im just asking myself, would it have been wiser, to not ban him and thusly proving him wrong? TL has a zero tolerance policy for anyone saying that s/he will probably getting banned for saying or posting something. | ||
DND_Enkil
Sweden598 Posts
On March 27 2011 12:48 Chill wrote: It has come to my attention that the TSL commentary may have been too edgy and bias for many of our members. In order to meet their needs, I have rerecorded the TSL commentary being careful to remain neutral. Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gDGf1G6mxQ Thanks to SarcasticOne for mixing them together! Hahaha! This is priceless, not the video in itself but that you was so bothered by someone voicing a negative opinion about your cast that you had to go make a video to ridicule him ^^ | ||
br0fivE
Canada349 Posts
so neutral it hurts hahaha, very funny commentary | ||
Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
And then people in return get offended by Chill and Incontrol offending the guy who originally wrote the needlessly critical post. Its like an evil circle, and people just fall into it every godamn time. | ||
ztoa03
Philippines181 Posts
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Deleted User 137586
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TL goes from professional (having active mods and Nazgul saying that "I'm taking care of my people.") to being a bunch of friends having ... and giggles in a heartbeat. | ||
Brewed Tea
United States124 Posts
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twisted03
Sweden137 Posts
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Ludwigvan
Germany2353 Posts
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Fushin
France193 Posts
And why the answer anyway ? He was biaised, he should just embrace it or ignore the criticism (i think the vast majority of viewers where rooting for non koreans, for their own reasons). | ||
EsX_Raptor
United States2801 Posts
What a caster says about a player has no impact on said player at all; if a caster is biased towards one player that doesn't imply the other will suddenly start sucking. Everyone has their own opinion. It almost seems as though if you knew of all the negative opinions against your favorite team or player, you'd die out of a stroke. It's the fact you don't that keeps you happy in your proud tiny bubble. Man up and enjoy the castings, regardless of their contents, instead of complaining about them like a little 13 year old girl who just caught a gossip about her first menstruation. | ||
Taawus
Estonia36 Posts
Classic thread being made. Classic thread complete. Minerals being mined. | ||
shell
Portugal2722 Posts
This game is looking to be a bit diferent then the korean dominance of BW, they will still be better because of their game houses, teams, money, GSL and practice regime. This is KOREA vs the world and they can hold their own against the rest of us.. isn't this saying enought about the koreans skill and dominance of this game?? Even in WC3 where you had few americans and some europeans competing you can have 1 euro for each 3 korean super stars.. We have grubby they have moon, lyn, sweet, zacard, FoV and so many others... come on.. a 55million country can hold their own against the world best team.. don't you guys think this is giving them enought credit?? I like koreans, i admire their passion and feel for the game but i prefer to see a european kick their asses simply because i think they are better then all of us.. It's like NBA vs the world.. i love NBA i follow it but if someone beats the americans it's a hell of a good game and i bet the foreign commentators will be all over that aspect.. or do you believe that if Brazil lost to Argelia or even USA all of the world wouldn't talk about that? When someone that's favored to win loses it's not always because the best man/team played bad but because the other man/team played better.. and that's what i've been seing in the TSL.. NO KOREA BASHING BUT FOREIGN PRAISING! and that's fair imo! Chill did a wonderfull job and i loved those casts (and so did the other casters) | ||
Cuddle
Sweden1345 Posts
GJ Chill. | ||
Deleted User 137586
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On March 27 2011 12:11 Chill wrote: What the fuck are you talking about? I don't understand what prompted you to make this thread. I said something you didn't like in the four and a half hours we were casting? Great. What's the point of this thread? LOL and this thread is 8 pages? fml. Chill needs to chill ˆ-ˆ | ||
Lexpar
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laguu
Finland278 Posts
Posting reply. | ||
CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
haha phone message received | ||
spacemunkee
United States51 Posts
"How dare you play up how well the foreigners are doing against the Koreans that no one gave them a chance in hell of beating! Good day sir! I said good day!" | ||
Glemdening
Bulgaria70 Posts
Anywhere? Moderate Temperature caster of the month? | ||
Sablar
Sweden880 Posts
Like the video pointed out a neutral caster really wouldn't care much about the game. When the home team (= pretty much non-korea) is winning from an underdog position I would expect emotion from that. Much like a swedish football commentator would be biased towards sweden and so on. Anyway I didn't even think about bias when I watched it. Like anything it can become too much but I don't remember it anyway. | ||
Deleted User 101379
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On March 29 2011 23:41 Glemdening wrote: Are Minerals being mined? Anywhere? Moderate Temperature caster of the month? It seemed in the last half of the video only few minerals were mined or the caster must have missed it!! What a horrible caster!!! not telling us everything we need to know!!!! The players could have taken all workers from the minerals and we wouldn't know because moderate temperature didn't tell us that they were still mining!!!!! + Show Spoiler + Awesome job, Chill. I think i wouldn't have managed to do that longer than 30 seconds before i would have to stop. I liked all the TSL casts and the casters did a really good job, though you should try to get Soe and TLO casting a TSL together | ||
karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On March 29 2011 23:50 Sablar wrote: Seems like a strange thing to complain about. Like the video pointed out a neutral caster really wouldn't care much about the game. When the home team (= pretty much non-korea) is winning from an underdog position I would expect emotion from that. Much like a swedish football commentator would be biased towards sweden and so on. Anyway I didn't even think about bias when I watched it. Like anything it can become too much but I don't remember it anyway. Then how come professional sports casters aren't biased towards one team if it isn't a world cup or the olympics? I've never seen a sports caster favor barcelona over real madrid, that's how many feel about it. I love White-Ra or HuK but those guys and i have nothing in common beside not being korean. I guess some people have a problem with the whole "us vs them" thing, i really don't feel like a better person just cause people from my part of the world win games against people who live in a different part of the world. | ||
Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
lol //tx | ||
thebigdonkey
United States354 Posts
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Malnor
Germany35 Posts
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zocktol
Germany1928 Posts
Hopefully people realize, that it takes passion to commentate well. | ||
ModerateTemperature
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On March 29 2011 20:02 Cele wrote: Show nested quote + User was temp banned for this post. Last edit: 2011-03-27 13:22:16 Mod note: user was banned for stating he would be banned (martyring), not for his criticism. to my opinion, this user wasnt "martyring" to draw attention to his post, but expressing his fear of beeing banned as a result of posting. While i do not believe, that his concerns were true, i would say the expression of this sentiment clearly is. Ironically you supported his notion in a twisted way by banning him. So im just asking myself, would it have been wiser, to not ban him and thusly proving him wrong? Martyring is stupid which is why TL has a zero tolerance policy on it. Writing "I'll probably be banned for this" is a way for someone to write something offensive with the idea that moderators can't ban him or else they'd prove him right. It also implied pretty strongly that moderators can't understand which posts deserve action and which don't. In order to sidestep this situation completely, we ban/warn everyone who martyrs. On March 29 2011 22:24 Ghanburighan wrote: Shameful of Chill to ridicule eoLithic for making a constructive polite post. I agree with eoLithic, the casting was no fun to listen because there was very little commentary on the games. I know one should hype up the players, but Chill proceeded to hype up anti-korea anger. This also fed into making the LR thread horrible, almost unreadable. TL goes from professional (having active mods and Nazgul saying that "I'm taking care of my people.") to being a bunch of friends having ... and giggles in a heartbeat. I hyped up the anti-Korean storyline because it's exciting. People had been saying that Koreans would dominate the TSL, and that they shouldn't be invited to the NASL because they would win it too easily. It's probably the most prominent storyline of all the TSL. If you don't agree, then post that in the TSL Feedback thread. Opening a new thread for something like that is ridiculous. And read his tone. Some of the statements I can't even understand what he's getting at. Look: The skill gap seemed to dissapear after an hour of Chill talking exclusively about how the foreigners are finally almost, if not as good as the koreans. This isn't true.Now, the foreigners played great do not get me wrong and so did the koreans, but there were no mercy for the koreans what so ever and the commentators, especially Chill made huge assumptions after every single engagement and/or match concerning the skill gap betweem the scenes being crushed. This also isn't true.And I could go on and on pasting quotes. The exaggeration to prove his opinion is so ridiculous that it can only be responded to with equally ridiculous exaggeration. If his criticism was accurate and fair, then I would have loved to receive it. I've read through the TSL Caster Feedback thread at least a dozen times. But it's not accurate at all. It's exaggerated to prove his post, which triggered my exaggerated response. On March 29 2011 22:29 Fushin wrote: I liked the commentaries as they were, but i dislike this answer by Chill : being neutral is not the same as being bad. Professional casters try as hard as they can to be as neutral as possible to avoid offending anyone, but it doesn't prevent them from commentating and being excited about nice actions. And why the answer anyway ? He was biaised, he should just embrace it or ignore the criticism (i think the vast majority of viewers where rooting for non koreans, for their own reasons). I'm neither a professional caster nor a professional poster. Neither are my career. That being said, being TL staff and a caster of TSL certainly holds me to a higher standard, but certainly not the same standard as a professional broadcaster. Professionalism is dictated by viewers, producers, and sponsors. If I can be myself without alienating a significant portion of those three groups, then I will. I don't think this crossed that line. On March 30 2011 00:07 karpo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 29 2011 23:50 Sablar wrote: Seems like a strange thing to complain about. Like the video pointed out a neutral caster really wouldn't care much about the game. When the home team (= pretty much non-korea) is winning from an underdog position I would expect emotion from that. Much like a swedish football commentator would be biased towards sweden and so on. Anyway I didn't even think about bias when I watched it. Like anything it can become too much but I don't remember it anyway. Then how come professional sports casters aren't biased towards one team if it isn't a world cup or the olympics? I've never seen a sports caster favor barcelona over real madrid, that's how many feel about it. I love White-Ra or HuK but those guys and i have nothing in common beside not being korean. I guess some people have a problem with the whole "us vs them" thing, i really don't feel like a better person just cause people from my part of the world win games against people who live in a different part of the world. I don't feel the same responsibility as a professional sports caster because I am not a professional Starcraft caster. Sorry if that offends you. I also don't feel happy when Canadians win at Starcraft, but I do feel happy when Koreans lose. To understand this, you have to have been part of the Brood War comunity. | ||
anatem
Romania1369 Posts
Chill, you're awesome man edit: dude, stop being so nice and making too much sense, it is known to many of us that your soul was extracted from a fluffy panda bear, and while it's always touching to see how much you actually care, haters smell weakness a mile away. | ||
heaven-
United States361 Posts
The silent majority is the happy majority. I'd like to speak in behalf of the silent majority, we love the games. we love the casts. We are also aware that the loud minority is usually full of whiners and low IQ netizens. The silent majority (the ones that enjoy and are grateful at all your hard work) ask you to please not change to please the loud (and idiotic) minority. You are doing great, lets not dumb down anything to please the idiots. It may not seem like it but there is actually less of them....they just happen to be loud. You are doing great and the silent majority is LOVING TSL! Best regards, the Silent Majority. | ||
lurked
Canada918 Posts
Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined. Minerals being mined. Structure being made. BTW, I'd love this as a MP3, so I can have an awesome "Minerals being mined" casting behind me while I'm playing. Screw listening to music while playing, all you need is Chill's awesome voice repeating "Minerals being mined" over and over. | ||
Strayline
United States330 Posts
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lurked
Canada918 Posts
On March 30 2011 00:40 Strayline wrote: Is there any way I can replace my in-game Terran voice with Chill? None that are 'legit', but IMO its totally worth the ban. | ||
lurked
Canada918 Posts
On March 30 2011 00:33 heaven- wrote: CHILL: The silent majority is the happy majority. I'd like to speak in behalf of the silent majority, we love the games. we love the casts. We are also aware that the loud minority is usually full of whiners and low IQ netizens. The silent majority (the ones that enjoy and are grateful at all your hard work) ask you to please not change to please the loud (and idiotic) minority. You are doing great, lets not dumb down anything to please the idiots. It may not seem like it but there is actually less of them....they just happen to be loud. You are doing great and the silent majority is LOVING TSL! Best regards, the Silent Majority. Being an official member of the Silent Majority, I would like to simply quote this post for truth. I couldn't get away from the TV at all this weekend, because of the high level of awesomeness emanating from TSL's stream. You don't have to change anything. The games were amazing, the casting was awesome, the stream quality was impressive(Especially considering 52k viewers on sunday, and not lagging at all?!?!?!), and even the breaks between the games were well done... | ||
sk`
Japan442 Posts
The casts were great, stop whining. Chill's mockery of the whining was even greater, enjoy being made fun of like the little angry nerds you are. | ||
Bitters
Canada303 Posts
E-Sports casting is suppose to make games more interesting/provocative, it's a lot story telling. With a lot of people on this board being big fans of Koreans and holding the opinions that Koreans are better than everyone at SC2, then OF COURSE it would be a BIG STORY if in a major tournament all the favorite Koreans were getting eliminated in the first round. It would be different if only one, maybe two big named Koreans were being eliminated, but when you have FD, MVP, Nestea, Genius out and the Korean-living/training contingent of IdrA, Jinro, Haypro and HuK joining them, it sort of makes it a big deal, and he should play up the story as it is probably the most significant of the tournament thus far. | ||
N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
People need to take shit less serious......but chill...errr "moderate temperature", you're video was pretty sick. Would watch again. | ||
Tennet
United States1458 Posts
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:36 Chill wrote: Show nested quote + On March 27 2011 13:34 BasilPesto wrote: On March 27 2011 13:12 Chill wrote: On March 27 2011 13:07 j3i wrote: I don't get it... everytime I see someone offer constructive critisism on this board towards an recognized figure, they get their heads bitten off. He didn't even say it in a bad way. He was just offering his sentiments on the commentary. He was mature about it. I saw something similar in the Official State of the Game thread when someone claimed that the way they ridicule audience responses on the show is demeaning. iNcontrol promptly labeled him as a "shitstirrer" ... for having an opinion about a show that encourages people to speak their minds. And now this. I don't care if I get banned or whatever but it has to be said. If you guys are the leaders of this board, you should probably act appropriately. Grow up. If it was constructive criticism he would have PMd it to me directly to begin a discussion. Instead, he took the small man way out and made a thread asking "What does everyone else think?" Well, here's what I think. Are you saying that there is no way a TLer could offer constructive criticism by making a thread (and inviting opinion/discussion)? I think the fact that you are a public figure suggests that any criticism/discussion might also be of interest to the larger community. No, I am not saying that. Well, logically you said "constructive criticism => PM" which is equivalent to "no constructive criticism <= no PM". | ||
Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
On March 30 2011 00:26 ModerateTemperature wrote: I also don't feel happy when Canadians win at Starcraft, but I do feel happy when Koreans lose. To understand this, you have to have been part of the Brood War comunity. When Grrrr... won the OSL that must have been a very happy day for you. It was for me. =) This was pretty funny to listen to, but it was not that funny that you actually had to make it in the first place. | ||
WinterNightz
United States111 Posts
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NightySC
Norway168 Posts
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Slardar
Canada7592 Posts
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Fushin
France193 Posts
As i said, i enjoyed the game, I enjoyed seeing Adel win (being a frenchman and all), and today i enjoyed seeing the matchs of the gom allstars vs korea. i just don't think this needed an answer, as funny it was Keep on the good work has you did, we'll ve 50000 watching next time too. | ||
3apa3aTa
Bulgaria3 Posts
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Fritti
Netherlands52 Posts
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Chillax
England585 Posts
Keep casting the way you do :D | ||
garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
I've been just about every second of the TSL, with the only exceptions coming when my favourite players lose. The casting has been fun, exciting, and insightful. The only complaint I have about the casting is that I'm still eagerly awaiting the elusive Artosis. Can't wait for him to make an appearance! | ||
MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
minerals being mined minerals being mined minerals being mined minerals being mined minerals being mined minerals being mined minerals being mined minerals being mined minerals being mined minerals being mined minerals being mined sunday comes afterwards ---- god this was too fucking funny. | ||
TadH
Canada1846 Posts
This is of course my own opinion. | ||
NR
Romania109 Posts
And for all the people that keep saying that Chill is "unprofessional": come on guys, give the man a break, it's not like he does grudge matches against CombatEx with Day9 talking about e-penis length in the commentary....anymore. | ||
karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
Show nested quote + On March 30 2011 00:07 karpo wrote: Then how come professional sports casters aren't biased towards one team if it isn't a world cup or the olympics? I've never seen a sports caster favor barcelona over real madrid, that's how many feel about it. I love White-Ra or HuK but those guys and i have nothing in common beside not being korean. I guess some people have a problem with the whole "us vs them" thing, i really don't feel like a better person just cause people from my part of the world win games against people who live in a different part of the world. I don't feel the same responsibility as a professional sports caster because I am not a professional Starcraft caster. Sorry if that offends you. I also don't feel happy when Canadians win at Starcraft, but I do feel happy when Koreans lose. To understand this, you have to have been part of the Brood War comunity. I was never into BW so i can just trust your word for that. :D What i kinda feel is that Starcraft needs some more professionalism. And i don't mean professionalism like shirt+tie monotone voice. I got kinda annoyed by Artosis too in GSL S1/S2 when his biased shone through alot when casting zergs. It has gotten better with time and I know sports casters that get alot of flak for biased casts and it's probably universal over all kinds of sport (unless broadcasted within a nation for the olympics/world championships etc). That's just my opinion. I do like the TSL and you, Chill, but it's just suggestions. | ||
universalwill
United States654 Posts
it would be funny if it were a bit more relevant. say, if someone told you that you were going off on tangents about irrelevant things in the middle of casts, but this doesn't seem like a proper rebuttal to the criticism you received =/ satire depends a lot on relevancy, homie! | ||
timwac
Scotland93 Posts
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Loddigesia
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DOMINOSC
Canada345 Posts
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teko
Canada1197 Posts
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gnutz
Germany666 Posts
Minerals being mined. :D | ||
NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
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Neobick
Sweden208 Posts
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Centric
United States1989 Posts
On March 27 2011 13:12 mucker wrote: Biased towards minerals +1. | ||
Spekulatius
Germany2413 Posts
Seriously, people want games to be casted. Why? Because they make the games more exciting. Being moderate is the death of being exciting. If you want moderate casting, you should just turn the sound off. It doesn't get any more moderate. | ||
karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On March 30 2011 04:41 Spekulatius wrote: The funny part is: This might be exaggerated but true. Seriously, people want games to be casted. Why? Because they make the games more exciting. Being moderate is the death of being exciting. If you want moderate casting, you should just turn the sound off. It doesn't get any more moderate. It is exaggerated but it isn't true. I read that guys post about Chill and it was wasn't about being moderate and boring. Sure the post over dramatized the whole thing but the basic point was that Chill focused way to much on one side. I repeat what i said in a previous post, this is not a world cup where the caster is broadcasting nationally to a more or less homogenus group. I'm guessing people root for both koreans and foreigners, and too much focus on one side isn't optimal. My two cent. | ||
Neobick
Sweden208 Posts
On March 30 2011 04:58 karpo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 30 2011 04:41 Spekulatius wrote: The funny part is: This might be exaggerated but true. Seriously, people want games to be casted. Why? Because they make the games more exciting. Being moderate is the death of being exciting. If you want moderate casting, you should just turn the sound off. It doesn't get any more moderate. It is exaggerated but it isn't true. I read that guys post about Chill and it was wasn't about being moderate and boring. Sure the post over dramatized the whole thing but the basic point was that Chill focused way to much on one side. I repeat what i said in a previous post, this is not a world cup where the caster is broadcasting nationally to a more or less homogenus group. I'm guessing people root for both koreans and foreigners, and too much focus on one side isn't optimal. My two cent. If think the casters should be allowed to use personal judgement on this, because they are nice enough doing something for the community. Maybe it wasnt optimal, but so what? Not everything is perfect. Concerns may be valid, though being a drama queen about it makes you a target. Simple. | ||
karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:04 Neobick wrote: Show nested quote + On March 30 2011 04:58 karpo wrote: On March 30 2011 04:41 Spekulatius wrote: The funny part is: This might be exaggerated but true. Seriously, people want games to be casted. Why? Because they make the games more exciting. Being moderate is the death of being exciting. If you want moderate casting, you should just turn the sound off. It doesn't get any more moderate. It is exaggerated but it isn't true. I read that guys post about Chill and it was wasn't about being moderate and boring. Sure the post over dramatized the whole thing but the basic point was that Chill focused way to much on one side. I repeat what i said in a previous post, this is not a world cup where the caster is broadcasting nationally to a more or less homogenus group. I'm guessing people root for both koreans and foreigners, and too much focus on one side isn't optimal. My two cent. If think the casters should be allowed to use personal judgement on this, because they are nice enough doing something for the community. Maybe it wasnt optimal, but so what? Not everything is perfect. Concerns may be valid, though being a drama queen about it makes you a target. Simple. Yeah the post about Chill was way overdramatized, yet i can see the OP's point. Would have been better to handle it with a PM. | ||
Cosmos
Belgium1077 Posts
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R1cE
United States59 Posts
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GertHeart
United States631 Posts
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hidiliho
Canada685 Posts
well done sir. | ||
FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Sasashi
United States22 Posts
However, it does seem unprofessional to exclude the quality with which the foreigner played against the highly skilled Korean. /sarcasm end On a more serious note though, I would like to throw out a thank you to everyone involved in the TSL tournament so far. I've had a ton of fun watching the games and, personally, have had no problems with any of the casting. You guys have done great, keep up the good work. You probably deserve a lot more recognition that you ever get; seems like critique of the event is more visible than any complements. | ||
onlinerobbe
Germany547 Posts
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Raysalis
Malaysia1034 Posts
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Slithice
Canada78 Posts
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rycho
United States360 Posts
On March 30 2011 00:33 heaven- wrote: CHILL: The silent majority is the happy majority. I'd like to speak in behalf of the silent majority, we love the games. we love the casts. We are also aware that the loud minority is usually full of whiners and low IQ netizens. The silent majority (the ones that enjoy and are grateful at all your hard work) ask you to please not change to please the loud (and idiotic) minority. You are doing great, lets not dumb down anything to please the idiots. It may not seem like it but there is actually less of them....they just happen to be loud. You are doing great and the silent majority is LOVING TSL! Best regards, the Silent Majority. this is one of the stupidest things i've ever read | ||
UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
You are are good caster and get the job done. Could things be improved, YES, but I dont think that in your negative state of mind, it would change anything you do. There are better ways to address criticism though. I think you took the criticism personally, thus why you though the rebuke was necessary. Chill out and get this off the front page because this looks bad on you and is only funny if you overlook the fact someone is being essentially bullied for voicing their legitimate right to criticise another on a forum (even though it may be bollocks, they still can) | ||
DizzyDrone
Netherlands629 Posts
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
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CodECleaR
United States395 Posts
"I'm your host, moderate temperature," Bwahaha, fucking gold :D <3 chill | ||
LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Itzeddiieee
Korea (South)787 Posts
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EdSlyB
Portugal1621 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On March 30 2011 07:29 DizzyDrone wrote: I hate to say it but I feel like moderate temperature did not spend an equal time observing both player's minerals being mined. He clearly favored neutral Terran in this cast! Ah ha, but moderate temperature wasn't doing that. When he was commentating "Minerals being mined" he was referring to the neutral Protoss. This way one player gets to have his working units being shown via video, and the other player gets to have his working units being described via sound, a fair way of broadcasting. | ||
vizir
Finland154 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
Admins with awesome sense of humour | ||
ILIVEFORAIUR
United States173 Posts
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Almin
United States583 Posts
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poundcakes
Norway239 Posts
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omnikaush
United States49 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Oh wait, i don't have a phone. >.> | ||
floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
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RHoudini
Belgium3626 Posts
I agree that this wasn't neutral, the T got a lot more attention than the P. | ||
aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I know this is sarcasm and it's intended for somebody, but who? | ||
DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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ReactoR
Sweden72 Posts
In this video Moderate Temperature (MT) is casting a game between a Protoss player and a Terran player. MT is doing a good job of staying on top of the action making sure the viewer doesn't miss a beat. However MT begins to laugh two or three times during the cast which in my opinion lightens the mood of the cast - clearly a rookie mistake here from MT. For the most part though I have to say no feelings, either good or bad, were produced while watching this cast. Based on that statement alone I have to recommend this to anyone wanting to get into Starcraft 2. A warning flag must be raised since MT stops the commentary after roughly 5:30 and if he wants to continue as a starcraft caster he must somehow find the stamina to stay for an entire game. | ||
Fiercegore
United States294 Posts
However, I was deeply offended by the bias of minerals gathering over Vespene gas mining. But seriously in the immortal words of cruncher... | ||
Raeleigh
Canada902 Posts
That was the best thing I have ever watched/heard. Honestly. LOL. | ||
getSome[703]
United States753 Posts
anyways, i still like it hahahahaha | ||
Quochobao
United States350 Posts
Thus, the way Chill is being strongly defended is justified within the boundary of TL. However, please don't make it look like we have a moral superiority over the critics of Chill. We don't--as whoever drafted the TL Forum Guidlines was manly enough to admit. | ||
MementoMori
Canada419 Posts
Also I never heard you say any "actions were being performed" for the neutral red player. Seemed a little biased there | ||
Carras
Argentina860 Posts
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fUddO
Canada197 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19035 Posts
Well done Chill. Can't wait for the next matches!!!!! PS. I think it's ironic there was just a Korea vs TheWORLD matchup in Korea! If the koreans don't want to have the focus on them for being korean then oGsMC wouldn't be bringing a giant sign out and thumbs downing the foreigners live! Anyways, commentary is better then nothing. Thanks TL casting team! | ||
Tuthur
France985 Posts
On March 30 2011 09:52 aimaimaim wrote: I find this hilarious and I don't follow the SC2 scene. So, what is this all about? + Show Spoiler + I know this is sarcasm and it's intended for somebody, but who? Well, begin by reading the OP :p there's a link to a thread complaining about his previous commentaries being biased, hilarity ensues. | ||
viii
United States266 Posts
i think its worker biased | ||
Cyanocyst
2222 Posts
I would agree, it was biased. Though there are other ways of being neutral other that sounding exactly like microsoft Sam. | ||
Hyst3ria
United States167 Posts
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keioh
France1099 Posts
It actually means that being a neutral commentator requires : 1) over 9000 apm 2) speaking faster than Husky on crack 3) being able to speak for at least 45 in-game minutes without taking breath because it's unprofessional. Any other casting will be awarded with the "biased" qualification and should not being watched by people under 18 or offendable people. Also anyone watching a biased cast should not have the right to express an opinion because it is way too biased, be it due to the cast or by reaction to the cast. I strongly advice the moderators of this forum to read this post in ModerateTemperature's voice and to take measure accordingly. First step would be to create a separate forum for adults and non-offendable people in which the perverse part of our community will be able to deprave themsleves by talking and reacting on biased casts. | ||
mufin
United States616 Posts
On March 30 2011 14:42 TL_User88 wrote: I appreciate the effort Chill but this cast was too dry and has no energy behind it. I will admit the content was flawless but the presentation needs work. Also where is day9? And why the fuck are the Koreans not winning?? User was warned for this post | ||
KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
On March 30 2011 16:00 mufin wrote: Show nested quote + On March 30 2011 14:42 TL_User88 wrote: I appreciate the effort Chill but this cast was too dry and has no energy behind it. I will admit the content was flawless but the presentation needs work. Also where is day9? And why the fuck are the Koreans not winning?? Haha. God, this was hilarious but i couldn't stand the "Minerals being mined"-line being repeated for so long | ||
Patriot.dlk
Sweden5462 Posts
Chill is the best commentator in the bunch with day9 as his equal. I can't agree with any of the criticisms and I think everyone who feels like I do should make a topic over how awesome TSL is the next time. | ||
DCWasabi
United States368 Posts
How can we possibly enjoy the game when that kind of bias is present? | ||
Datum
United States371 Posts
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R A V
United States217 Posts
Oh Chill you so silly :3333 | ||
OneBk
Sweden157 Posts
and every one else, chill out.. | ||
Dustus
United Kingdom86 Posts
On March 30 2011 22:56 Datum wrote: The obvious bias doesn't bother me that much, and chill is an amazing caster, I just think neutrality lends legitimacy to the sport, because it's like the caster is doing a professional job, not just having fun. That doesn't mean no enthusiasm however. The only thing I would like to see is for a caster not to say they are rooting for someone. Idk why, but even if it's really obvious, I just prefer they don't say it out loud. That being said, all the casters are total bosses and should do whatever the he'll they want. While watching International football or rugby or any game I've tended to find that the commentators are always - for obvious reasons - more on the side of their own countrymen. I think its fine to show obvious bias in who you want to win as long as what you're saying in commentary is still objective, fair and entertaining, which I think all the commentators for this have been. I cannot say for certain as I cannot speak Korean but I'm sure Korean casters of these games would be rooting for their own countrymen. It's just the way things like this work in all sports/esports. | ||
SYNC_qx
Germany197 Posts
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
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kazansky
Germany931 Posts
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Slugbreath
Sweden201 Posts
On March 30 2011 15:42 Hyst3ria wrote: Hi my name is Chill and I am the voice behind the alert voice in Red Alert. Haha! This pretty much sums up my thoughts. As people before me have stated, this needs to be remixed into a song. The "Minerals being mined" loop must be able to be auto tuned into greatness, don't you all agree? | ||
MaxField
United States2386 Posts
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kinkosky
United States73 Posts
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LanTAs
United States1091 Posts
Minerals being mined, minerals vespene being mined minerals LOL | ||
Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
That was golden chill. | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
Good stuff! | ||
funnybananaman
United States830 Posts
Not exactly sure which of the two is being accused of happening in TSL because i don't watch SC2, but if its the second one thats a legitimate problem that shouldn't be happening. If its the first that is a stupid thing to criticize. Whether or not the premise of this video is legit (depends which 2 of the kinds of criticism its responding to) the fact that you just literally stated everything on the screen over and over the entire time made it less funny and pretty retarded :/ Could have been really funny if it was more tastefully done | ||
carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
Were there any minerals mined? | ||
aNDRoM
United States637 Posts
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iruga
United States28 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On April 01 2011 09:08 iruga wrote: This commentary might be a little be to biased towards the minerals that are being mined I agree it's not neutral at all, where is the credit for the workers mining the minerals? | ||
Phant
United States737 Posts
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Icx
Belgium853 Posts
But yes this is probably the future of starcraft commentary, no bias, just honest and neutral straight up commentary where the watcher/listener isn't being misled or pushed towards a certain view on the game by the caster. As always chill is on the cutting edge of shoutcasting again, and this will definatly start a revolution! + Show Spoiler + Because with how the boards have been going the last few weeks, yes I am being sarcastic, and I'm not being serious -_- | ||
RHMVNovus
United States738 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
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Eurekastreet
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
I wish Blizzard would implent Chill as the new voice for Terran in-game. | ||
Jerubaal
United States7676 Posts
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Kaonis
United States243 Posts
My head hurts now that he did I think my ear just started bleeding OH GOD DID HE JUST CHUCKLE!? *Gwack* | ||
Varpulis
United States2517 Posts
lol jk, chill showing the whiners who's boss. Laughed all the way through! | ||
weeA
India442 Posts
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Robstickle
Great Britain406 Posts
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SecondSandwich
United States319 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On March 30 2011 11:17 ReactoR wrote: My Short Chill Neutral Commentary Review In this video Moderate Temperature (MT) is casting a game between a Protoss player and a Terran player. MT is doing a good job of staying on top of the action making sure the viewer doesn't miss a beat. However MT begins to laugh two or three times during the cast which in my opinion lightens the mood of the cast - clearly a rookie mistake here from MT. For the most part though I have to say no feelings, either good or bad, were produced while watching this cast. Based on that statement alone I have to recommend this to anyone wanting to get into Starcraft 2. A warning flag must be raised since MT stops the commentary after roughly 5:30 and if he wants to continue as a starcraft caster he must somehow find the stamina to stay for an entire game. MT, we hope you are addressing this issue because you are one of the only neutral commentators out there! | ||
NeonFox
2373 Posts
Now I hear it in my dreams. | ||
Vain
Netherlands1115 Posts
On April 01 2011 09:24 jalstar wrote: Show nested quote + On April 01 2011 09:08 iruga wrote: This commentary might be a little be to biased towards the minerals that are being mined I agree it's not neutral at all, where is the credit for the workers mining the minerals? He spend too much time on the neutral guy in the lower left corner. This moderate temperature guy is biased as fuck | ||
AySz88
United States83 Posts
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
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Drxz
Australia115 Posts
Jokes aside, thank you! 5ish minutes was worth watching. | ||
Zurles
United Kingdom1659 Posts
On April 04 2011 18:32 Deekin[ wrote: Kinda hilarious but were you that pissed off that you needed to make a vid like this? It is hilarious and are you actually thinking being pissed off is the only motivation for this? | ||
jfourz
Ireland421 Posts
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MajorityofOne
Canada2506 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10416 Posts
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meep
United States1699 Posts
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Jufatto
Sweden3 Posts
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ionize
Ireland399 Posts
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Grape
145 Posts
That's a sign of a great commentator right there. Brilliant. | ||
Albrithe
Canada187 Posts
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jmols
New Zealand41 Posts
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Uraeus
France1378 Posts
And the tone of your voice @~ 2:30 "units attacking". It's like you enjoy the Terran base being invaded. How is that neutral at all? So much blatant disrepect for the Terran player totally kills the interest in the game. We want Nicolas Cage's stare level of emotionlessness and more neutrality than Switzerland. Anything else will be raged at. + Show Spoiler + Oh, man, that was HILARIOUS Chill. I can see the LR thread being flooded with "minerals being mined" from now on. | ||
frogurt
Australia907 Posts
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JediGamer
United States656 Posts
If I have the sources right the guy didn't like a very biased casting against MVP. I looked through the forum couldn't find. | ||
Clow
Brazil880 Posts
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
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Johnnybb
Denmark486 Posts
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