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So I have $500 that I want to spend on some sort of starcraft/esports related thing. Maybe host a tournament or a contest or sponsor some event or something. But I really don't know what. I was brainstorming what I should do with a few of my friends, but I figure this is a good place to ask this sort of question.
Here are some ideas that I have been thinking about: Host a 1 time open online tournament Arrange a show match Have a map making contest. Have a video making contest. Donate the money/sponsor some other event.
I'm not really set on any of those ideas. Can somebody give me some advice on something cool to do with the money?
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There are already plenty of showmatches and tournaments. I would like to see more fanart. Maybe make a plushie contest?
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Hosting a tournament would be pretty baller, especially if you have the means of managing it well and getting it recognized by the community. Good luck with this! You're doing a great thing regardless of what the money goes into
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On January 03 2012 13:15 Kfish wrote: sponsor a barcraft event I wish I could but I'm not legal drinking age here.
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On January 03 2012 13:16 Chairman Ray wrote: There are already plenty of showmatches and tournaments. I would like to see more fanart. Maybe make a plushie contest?
This would be cool too, but I disagree that he shouldn't host a tournament simply because "there are already plenty of showmatches and tournaments." The more there are, the better IMO.
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On January 03 2012 13:17 FuRRyChoBo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2012 13:16 Chairman Ray wrote: There are already plenty of showmatches and tournaments. I would like to see more fanart. Maybe make a plushie contest? This would be cool too, but I disagree that he shouldn't host a tournament simply because "there are already plenty of showmatches and tournaments." The more there are, the better IMO.
Well I want to get the most out of the money. The tournament scene seems pretty saturated lately. I feel like there's something else to do that would be better.
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Thats true but I like the barcraft idea even more. We do have a lot of showmatches and tournaments. So many that you simply can't watch them all. But barcrafts are growing everywhere and the closest one to you could probably use your help!
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On January 03 2012 13:29 Probe1 wrote: Thats true but I like the barcraft idea even more. We do have a lot of showmatches and tournaments. So many that you simply can't watch them all. But barcrafts are growing everywhere and the closest one to you could probably use your help! Like I said before, unfortunately I'm not drinking age .
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Do a showmatch!!!! actually you can do afew because $500 for 1 showmatch is pretty hefty...maybe 2 or 3?
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Sorry that I don't have a suggestion, but I'd like to just add that I am in a similar position as you right now and I think that I'll be really interested to see what you end up going with, because I might follow suit.
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Does anybody like the video contest idea? Also if I did an art contest how would judging work?
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On January 03 2012 14:00 JoelE wrote: Does anybody like the video contest idea? Also if I did an art contest how would judging work?
It is your money, you can judge however you like. Just choose the artwork you like the best and bam you have a winner.
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A video making contest would be really cool. Pretty much anything goes, highlight video, video about a specific player etc. Imo there are enough show matches and open tournaments right now, but we could use more video content (not including interviews).
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I don't know about a video or art contest, personally, because it wouldn't cater to the players but rather the fans. Perhaps that's a good thing, but it would seem to be kind of random and out there, detached from the main entertainment that's happening.
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then again on the other hand pretty much everything we watch here is sort of detached.
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On January 03 2012 13:17 JoelE wrote:I wish I could but I'm not legal drinking age here. If you're not even old enough to hold a bottle of liquor then I think you should hang onto your hard-earned chore money my friend.
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On January 03 2012 13:59 OopsOopsBaby wrote: save ur money. Or buy a TL t-shirt and call it a day.
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United States32611 Posts
Spend it on GSL year tickets, HomeStory HD Stream, NASL HD Stream, ESL HD Stream, MLG Gold Pass, whatever products you are interested in seeing in the following year.
Alternately, use it to help finance a trip to a live event in the USA this year, the experience is worth it.
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read mani blog about esport spending and then think again what you want to do
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In response to people telling me to save it or buy something Starcraft for myself, this is the money I have left over after doing all those things. I save most of my money, but this $500 is destined towards some kind of exports event.
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On January 03 2012 14:08 Arterial wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2012 13:17 JoelE wrote:On January 03 2012 13:15 Kfish wrote: sponsor a barcraft event I wish I could but I'm not legal drinking age here. If you're not even old enough to hold a bottle of liquor then I think you should hang onto your hard-earned chore money my friend.
Drinking age in the USA is 21, much older than Australia...no need to troll his blog if you don't have anything to add.
Waxangel's suggestions are good ones.
Try to go to a live event nearby. I went to IPL3 and didn't think it would be worth it, but it was so close that I couldn't resist. I had a blast! Buy MLG gold pass (really a great deal!).
You could also sponsor a "barcraft" without alcohol : ) Have it at a firehouse/cheap hall/etc that has internet and get some asian food, water, etc. Really you could just use the $500 as capital to get it started and then charge $5 or whatever so that you can have a barcraft every big tournament.
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tl;dr: Waxangel's suggestion is basically to give the money to people who are already trying to do things rather than try to come up with your own thing.
Or at least that's the impression I got from it.
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United States22154 Posts
Make a map contest, we need more of those.
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On January 03 2012 15:03 GMarshal wrote: Make a map contest, we need more of those. Actually, that's not a bad idea at all...
The second most important thing (after picking good enough maps), though, would be to get the community to pay attention to it like they did for that TL custom map tournament.
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On January 03 2012 15:04 rkffhk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 03 2012 15:03 GMarshal wrote: Make a map contest, we need more of those. Actually, that's not a bad idea at all... The second most important thing (after picking good enough maps), though, would be to get the community to pay attention to it like they did for that TL custom map tournament. There are like no map contests, even a 100$ pool is likely to garner some attention. The hard part is the judging and such, especially because you need people to play on it.
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buy starcraft swag and save the rest
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Osaka27001 Posts
Save your money man. Buy GSL passes for you and a buddy so you can watch the games together. Dont just give your money away on random things.
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like others said, if you are that determined to spend that cash on esports, at the very least do buy all the passes you can because that money will go to support the organizers and you will gain access to new content. its a win win. You can use leftover cash for something else.
Another thing you can do that benefit you and others is find a progamer you like and do a coaching sessions. Have it streamed (sorta like mini version of 12 weeks with pros by mr.bitter)
f.e. Get MVP to coach you for for 5 hours in whatever time period for 500, have that streamed and make VODs available. Obviously announce it on TL etc. Others can watch those 5 hours and learn too. again a win win! You obviously wouldn't get MVP but given your cause I think you may be able to negotiate a discounted rate with other high-tier programers, who may charge more otherwise. I think Idra charges more but he might do a 5 hour session for 500 in 1 day, for example. I think people would love to see that. Also I'm sure white-ra would do multiple sessions given the benefit to the fans, even though he doesnt usually do coaching (I could see him doing it a lower rate than 100/hr, if you'd want to go with white-ra PM me and I can ask him). With regular coaches you can get a ton of content though (ppl charge 15-30$ hour, do the math-_-)
Just trying to think of something that would not only help esports, but you too
edit: or ultimate solution: spend $100 on passes, host a $100 map contest, spend $300 on a good $15hr coach, and publish those 20 sessions for people to learn from (or do 10 sessions for yourself and 10 for a player you sponsor from a different league). If you have passes already, u can host small tourneys and give away extra passes as prizes (ex: diamond league tourneys)
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Create a star player. Host a tourny where the winner gets $500 dollars worth of coaching by the player of his choice, on average this is something like 16 hours (assuming $30 dollars is an average) So you find a relatively good player who's ambitious to get better, give him tons of time with a pro player, in a couple months hopefully this guy starts doing good in daily cups and keeps moving up and gets picked up by a semi-notable team congratz! you've created a semi-pro or something!
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BLIZZCON TICKET WITH A FRIEND!~~
you will thank me when you get to meet day9
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On January 03 2012 16:46 Warpath wrote: Create a star player. Host a tourny where the winner gets $500 dollars worth of coaching by the player of his choice, on average this is something like 16 hours (assuming $30 dollars is an average) So you find a relatively good player who's ambitious to get better, give him tons of time with a pro player, in a couple months hopefully this guy starts doing good in daily cups and keeps moving up and gets picked up by a semi-notable team congratz! you've created a semi-pro or something! Thats acturally such a fucking good idea. Just need to be creative about weeding out smurfs. You could probally get some "up and coming" caster to cast it.
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So no update on what you decided to do? would be interesting to know
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Buy premium passes to events that you want to watch, save the rest.
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INVEST the money LOCALLY, the effect that a well run tournament with a starter pot can have on peoples view of SC2 is incredible.
Also, a one off event is going to be low impact, partner with someone already in the space and knows how to use it best.
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On January 03 2012 16:46 Warpath wrote: Create a star player. Host a tourny where the winner gets $500 dollars worth of coaching by the player of his choice, on average this is something like 16 hours (assuming $30 dollars is an average) So you find a relatively good player who's ambitious to get better, give him tons of time with a pro player, in a couple months hopefully this guy starts doing good in daily cups and keeps moving up and gets picked up by a semi-notable team congratz! you've created a semi-pro or something!
Not all coaches are 'good' for every player. Neat idea, very unlikely to work.
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I totally support the video contest idea, one of the biggest blasts I had with World of Warcraft was to watch all the skill-/pvp-movies that arose from that, especially the ones that had a lot of fun woven into them.
As far as I know there is nearly nothing like that yet for SC2 so that could really do some good for that sector and give the opportunity to be recognized and picked up by a bigger organisation for video makers <3
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I totally agree with Waxangel. I went to Providence this year and it cost almost that much for everything and was worth every penny.
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What I would do, in order of magnitude.
1. Go to a live event, MLG preferably. 2. Host a tournament, based on a series of Bo3 showmatches or something like that. Make it a couple week event for $500, that's a decent amount of money. 3. Buy $500 worth of lessons from a pro, and stream it + release the VODs for free. If you aren't good enough to feel this would be worth the pro's time, hold a community event where you select a winner to get the coaching, and spec + stream the lessons. 4. Buy season passes for all MLGs/GSL/etc.
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On January 03 2012 15:37 Manifesto7 wrote: Save your money man. Buy GSL passes for you and a buddy so you can watch the games together. Dont just give your money away on random things.
This. Invest in bronze, then come back in 3 years when you have 7 million to give to eSports.
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Calgary25942 Posts
If ESPORTS is to become a real industry, we need to get out of this charity mindset. Spend it on something of value that you want, like a trip to an MLG. If you feel like getting your favourite two players to play is worth $500, try it, but it's likely not going to be enough to make a splash.
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On January 10 2012 02:44 Chill wrote: If ESPORTS is to become a real industry, we need to get out of this charity mindset. Spend it on something of value that you want, like a trip to an MLG. If you feel like getting your favourite two players to play is worth $500, try it, but it's likely not going to be enough to make a splash.
I agree. That money should be either invested in, or spent on a company that produces a good product, which is the best way to grow and encourage growth of an industry. If everyone is too busy charity circlejerking no company will get off the ground and stabilize.
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Donate to TL for special showmatch sub-event at TSL4?
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