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I've recently gotten fed up with my laptop. I'm on the move a lot, my laptop of 5 years is loud, clunky, and heavy. It is a gaming laptop, so obviously with how things were back then it wouldn't be as light and as quiet as the laptops today. But with the changes in my lifestyle during the past few years, I don't need a gaming laptop anymore, I just need some kind of computer device so that I can do some random browsing, watching videos, watching SC2 streams, listening to music, chatting- that's about it.
I spend a lot of time in-class and in between classes just browsing the web on this gaming laptop. In fact I'm sitting here typing out this blog on this crusty laptop right now lol. I've tolerated how cumbersome it is to carry it around (not to mention it has to have a power source because of its dying battery) because I don't want to throw money away at an Apple product. But now in this new semester I'm actually going need to have some type of electronic device so that I can read the books I purchased online that can only be viewed online. The past few weeks of lugging around this hunk of junk has really been driving me nuts.
But is it really worth it? I don't plan on buying a brand spanking new iPad 2, I just want a used cheap 1st gen iPad. Hopefully I'll be able to find one for around $300 or possibly less. I also thought about purchasing an iPhone but then I would need to activate or find some illegal means to activate right? This is a replacement for a laptop so I figured that the iPad with a larger screen would make my life easier when I'm trying to read my books.
I just don't know enough about the iPad to come to solid conclusion. $300+ is a good chunk of money for a college student. Will an iPad satisfy my needs just as my laptop has? Given that my laptop has been failing me in the mobility department to the point that it's becoming a hassle I would like to think that an iPad would be a good investment, unless there are other alternatives that I'm completely ignorant to =(
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If you can get an iPad for $300 or less then its pretty worth it IMO to just read books/pdfs and browse the internet. Keep in mind that you can't do all of them at once. If one of your classes has power points, the iPad is amazing if you export those powerpoints in pdf form and just store them on your iPad for quick reading.
I don't think the iPad will replace a laptop, but I'm someone who needs a standard keyboard and substantial multitasking with multiple programs. Especially for college, I think you need a complete laptop or at least a desktop at home. Maybe you can look into an Asus Ultralight laptop that's super light with long battery life (8 hours ish) if you're willing to pay more ($500-$600).
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if you're just typing stuff up or browsing the web, any tablet would serve that function well. If you're 100% sure that you're not gonna wanna game between classes, the $300 iPad/Tablet/whatever would be a good investment IMO.
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Amazons new kindle is a tablet if I'm not mistaken? Maybe worth a look. Loads of competitors to the ipad which lose to it on everything but the price
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A newer cheap laptop (which can be found for $300-400 these days) will suit your needs better than an iPad.
iPads and most tablets in general are just entertainment devices with a few minor work/presentation features built in, but it's much more difficult to be productive on them. The software isn't very powerful for creating documents and none of the OS's can really compete with Windows. Including Android, none of them can really do multitasking the same way you'd find on a real computer. Some documents might be saved but for instance, if I were writing this post on an iPad and opened up a new tab or app to look something up, this would all be lost because tablet browsers don't save states, they just reload the page each time you switch to it. Or if you want to browse TL during a SotG commercial, you can't do that without having the SotG window be suspended.
For pdfs, ebooks, movies, streams and simple web browsing, it's fine. For work and heavier web browsing, they're not. At that price range, you can find a cheap laptop that might not be as quick as an iPad/Tab/Prime, but is a lot more powerful.
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On February 02 2012 02:59 Jibba wrote: A newer cheap laptop (which can be found for $300-400 these days) will suit your needs better than an iPad.
iPad's and most tablets in general are just entertainment devices with a few minor work/presentation features built in, but it's much more difficult to be productive on them. The software isn't very powerful for creating documents and none of the OS's can really compete with Windows. Including Android, none of them can really do multitasking the same way you'd find on a real computer. Some documents might be saved but for instance, if I were writing this post on an iPad and opened up a new tab or app to look something up, this would all be lost because tablet browsers don't save states, they just reload the page each time you switch to it. Or if you want to browse TL during a SotG commercial, you can't do that without having the SotG window be suspended.
For pdfs, ebooks, movies, streams and simple web browsing, it's fine. For work and heavier web browsing, they're not. At that price range, you can find a cheap laptop that might not be as quick as an iPad/Tab/Prime, but is a lot more powerful.
I thought that the OP only wanted the iPad for web browsing/streaming/books/etc?
But yeah, a laptop does have more features.
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I would rather get a netbook for work (assuming you're really getting it for work) to carry around than have an iPad. The iPad doesn't even fulfill its roles that well, other than playing angry birds and such. I fail to see why it would be 'necessary' for a student. It's just a really overpriced toy.
That's only my personal opinion anyway, maybe I'm living in the past.
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On February 02 2012 02:55 DKR wrote: Amazons new kindle is a tablet if I'm not mistaken? Maybe worth a look. Loads of competitors to the ipad which lose to it on everything but the price
Yeah I was just shopping around and found the Kindle Fire. Any thoughts on how well it'll match-up to an iPad? It's $199 for a brand new Kindle Fire so it looks great in terms of price. But I want to do a lot of web browsing and stream watching too, and I couldn't find any information on that on the Amazon website.
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I got an iPad for a graduation present, here are my .02$:
I use it so much, especially for thing I never even thought about. When I am working on a project, It is so much better than a laptop for opening up datasheets/looking up things/jotting notes down. But, I also have a laptop and desktop, and use both of those as well. It is an augment, not a replacement. Get yourself a laptop
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On February 02 2012 03:01 HereBeDragons wrote: I would rather get a netbook for work (assuming you're really getting it for work) to carry around than have an iPad. The iPad doesn't even fulfill its roles that well, other than playing angry birds and such. I fail to see why it would be 'necessary' for a student. It's just a really overpriced toy.
That's only my personal opinion anyway, maybe I'm living in the past. Netbook is a nono because the stock OS on those is always some shitty Windows 7 Basic crap. Unless you plan on partitioning and using linux of course...
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I bought an ipad for $200 when the ipad2 first came out and everybody was trying to sell their original ipad... I also got a samsung nc10 netbook for $285 and a regular-ish 15.6" laptop for $440. I'll try to give you a breakdown of my impressions from using the three. I must say I enjoy using the ipad immensely, but like others have said, being productive on it is nigh impossible; I even bought the little rubber tip pen thing to take notes on it, but it still doesn't compare to having a legit laptop or pen and paper. It's good enough to just carry around anywhere, surf the web, check emails and read books - it's ultra portable, light, and has good battery life at around 10 hours. At $200, I would say that's the best bang for buck out of the three.
The $440 hp probook is my second pick, as it is still somewhat light, and provides the muscle to do actual document editing and browsing. I got it because it was the cheapest laptop I could find that had an i3 processor at the time (about a year and half ago) and I must say I have been loving it despite the relatively high price tag. It's somewhat portable, and battery life is good at around 6hours light usage, 3~4 hours watching youtube videos. It's big though, so you wont be able to just carry it around in your arms like an ipad.
My netbook is a piece of shit IMO, definitely would not recommend. The atom processor is too slow to do anything comfortably, including browsing a website, and it is not as portable as an ipad/tablet. The keyboard is crammed so even though it says the keys are at ~90% of full-sized keyboards, it's ridiculously awkward typing on it and I make alot of typos. Plus, with the keyboard being that small, I keep hitting the touchpad with my palm, and it is REALLY annoying. Screen is also small and resolution sucks. With no CD/DVD drive and piss poor sound output to boot, I would recommend netbooks to only those that I detest. It's more portable than a regular laptop, but less portable than a potato, while having about the same level of functionality. Seriously, a gigantic headache and a waste of money; don't buy it.
EDIT: perhaps you can buy a physical keyboard for the ipad? my biggest gripe with doing work on the ipad is the onscreen keyboard, because it is hard to type on, and also makes you prone to distraction since you hardly even have to lift a finger to switch back to the web browser where all the internetz goodness lies... but if you get a separate keyboard that might help. If you are going for portability, there are keyboard/case combinations where it's like a lid for your ipad when you are not using it as a keyboard, so it serves both purposes at once, but it's quite pricey at $99. My friend had one and it was pretty cool, and he used it during his commute to work just like you are planning to do. Here's an example: + Show Spoiler +
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I somehow skipped over a bunch of nice posts sorry =(
Well I already have a laptop so I don't see a point in getting a new one. I want a tablet because I don't need a powerful computing machine for heavy duty web browsing and writing out papers. And I need something that is even more mobile than a laptop. When I say I'm on the move I'm quite literally riding the train every single day several times a day for over an hour total and then waiting between classes or waiting in the class for class to start.
But the post about the iPad being nothing more than an expensive toy concerns me, because quite frankly that's what I originally thought as well, until now. In fact I still use a normal cellphone, rather than all that smartphone jazz.
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iPad is good, yo. But it is not laptop replacement. Netbooks have worth from laptops and tablets, so it is not a good option.
MacBook Pro (or MacBook Air if you are not working with heavy software) + iPad = pure awesomeness =).
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On February 02 2012 03:01 Snuggles wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 02:55 DKR wrote: Amazons new kindle is a tablet if I'm not mistaken? Maybe worth a look. Loads of competitors to the ipad which lose to it on everything but the price Yeah I was just shopping around and found the Kindle Fire. Any thoughts on how well it'll match-up to an iPad? It's $199 for a brand new Kindle Fire so it looks great in terms of price. But I want to do a lot of web browsing and stream watching too, and I couldn't find any information on that on the Amazon website.
I have a Kindle Fire and I use it soley for entertainment purposes. I've not really seen any productivity applications for it, but I also haven't looked. There is a justin.tv player app for it, which I use to watch streams regularly. The web browser is fine, works as well as you could hope.
You kind of lose a lot of functionality of the device if you don't have Amazon Prime, no free movies or books. The Android Market is restricted to the Amazon one, but you can root it and have access to everything if you want.
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no, i would always no matter what go for the Galaxy pad by samsung
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I would stick with a simple laptop in the 400-500$ range. I share an ipad2 and a couple laptops with my gf. The ipad is a great product, but not everything is tablet friendly. Just to get total control of the things I run is why I would go the laptop route.
Windows version 8 is supposed to be very tablet friendly upon it's release and would probably make my answer above look stupid. For now -- embrace the laptop imo.
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Honestly, pony up and get the iPad 2. I have both the iPad, iPad2, kindle fire. For being extremely mobile and what not, the fire is great, but the screen is so much nicer on the iPad 2 for web browsing and what not. I like it very much, and once you jailbreak it, you can do most anything.
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It's worth it, being a gamer in college I have a full desktop at home for normal stuff, but use a galaxy tablet during class and stuff. I take notes using paper so that doesn't really bother me. The best part is going out to eat/in between classes and being able to read/listen to music without having a bootup and stuff. Tablets are great devices for consuming content.
desktop/tablet setup is the way to go.
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Just get a laptop and dont waste your money on apple products.
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I'd echo the sentiments of most in this thread: If you want it for laptop-stuff, get a damn laptop.
However if you're really set on a tablet, I'd go with an android tablet before an iPad. I'm a bit biased against apple stuff of course.. but the "free and open" concept of the android marketplace is much awesomer than the itunes store when it comes to tablets.
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On February 02 2012 02:59 Jibba wrote: A newer cheap laptop (which can be found for $300-400 these days) will suit your needs better than an iPad.
iPads and most tablets in general are just entertainment devices with a few minor work/presentation features built in, but it's much more difficult to be productive on them. The software isn't very powerful for creating documents and none of the OS's can really compete with Windows. Including Android, none of them can really do multitasking the same way you'd find on a real computer. Some documents might be saved but for instance, if I were writing this post on an iPad and opened up a new tab or app to look something up, this would all be lost because tablet browsers don't save states, they just reload the page each time you switch to it. Or if you want to browse TL during a SotG commercial, you can't do that without having the SotG window be suspended.
For pdfs, ebooks, movies, streams and simple web browsing, it's fine. For work and heavier web browsing, they're not. At that price range, you can find a cheap laptop that might not be as quick as an iPad/Tab/Prime, but is a lot more powerful.
Small correction, in iOS, the browser does save its state when switching, and will try to not reload when relaunched. The web site is reloaded only when necessary, depending on memory management. Something like switching back from browser to email to twitter back to browser is no problem.
Of course, the iPad 2's extra memory helps compare to iPad 1.
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By the way, iPad 3 is rumored for release early this year (rumor says March, but I am a bit sceptical about that). If you want a discount tablet, maybe you'll be able to get an iPad 2. If they do double the resolution, plenty people will switch.
My recommendation is to ask yourself "do I want a slow laptop, or a fast device that does less than a laptop?" Its a speed/battery/weight vs. things-it-can-do tradeoff.
Personally, my iPad became my main computer. My personal rule of thumb nowadays is "if it needs more than a tablet, might as well do it on a desktop". Keep in mind, I am no longer in college, but I never was the kind of using a computer in the classroom, even in Computer Science classes.
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it's really an luxury item, if you have the dispensable income to buy it, then get it; otherwise, there's always something that gives you better bang for the buck
I'm buying my 1st ipad when the third generation comes out
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How about I give you a better idea. Get a netbook. They'll set you back only around £150 - 200 (here in Britain) or whatever netbooks go for in the US nowadays....
Netbooks:
- Are portable. They can fit inside your bag EZ PZ and won't take too much room.
- Run Microsoft Office, an actual internationally recognised PROPIETARY COMMERCIAL OFFICE SUITE, and not some crappy $5 iOS app that does a half-baked job at being a rich text editor.
- Have a keyboard. A physical keyboard. Not an on-screen piece of crap that smudges your screen horrendously after two minutes of use.
- Run flash.
- Won't make you look like a tool.
- Are about £200 - £250 cheaper than an iPad for the cheapest model.
- Usually come with larger storage than an iPad these days.
Hell, even if you can get a Linux netbook, you can still say.... install Wine and attempt to run MSOffice 2010 on there.
At best, an iPad can add two points to your ego compared to a netbook.
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My boss bought them (iPad 2) for us all at work. For general emailing, web browsing and note taking, it's fine (I'm posting this msg from mine right now). Jibba is incorrect about the ipad's ability to multitask and save states. The biggest annoyance for me is the lack of flash compatibility, which doesn't appear to be something apple ever intends to remedy.
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On February 02 2012 12:02 Brett wrote: My boss bought them (iPad 2) for us all at work. For general emailing, web browsing and note taking, it's fine (I'm posting this msg from mine right now). Jibba is incorrect about the ipad's ability to multitask and save states. The biggest annoyance for me is the lack of flash compatibility, which doesn't appear to be something apple ever intends to remedy.
The Skyfire browser solved most of my flash video needs.
I love mine.
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If you are going to type a lot, don't get an iPad. It's very simple.
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On February 02 2012 12:02 Brett wrote: My boss bought them (iPad 2) for us all at work. For general emailing, web browsing and note taking, it's fine (I'm posting this msg from mine right now). Jibba is incorrect about the ipad's ability to multitask and save states. The biggest annoyance for me is the lack of flash compatibility, which doesn't appear to be something apple ever intends to remedy.
Won't ever happen. You can say that Apple won an attrition war, as Adobe discontinued development of Flash in mobile.
The good news is, streamimg sites ae becoming more iOS friendly. The fact that the new Flash streaming server supports non-Flash streaming also helps. Yeah, Flash is used for more than video, but video has been a big point in the "Flash wars".
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On February 02 2012 11:18 Clbull wrote:How about I give you a better idea. Get a netbook. They'll set you back only around £150 - 200 (here in Britain) or whatever netbooks go for in the US nowadays.... Netbooks:- Are portable. They can fit inside your bag EZ PZ and won't take too much room.
- Run Microsoft Office, an actual internationally recognised PROPIETARY COMMERCIAL OFFICE SUITE, and not some crappy $5 iOS app that does a half-baked job at being a rich text editor.
- Have a keyboard. A physical keyboard. Not an on-screen piece of crap that smudges your screen horrendously after two minutes of use.
- Run flash.
- Won't make you look like a tool.
- Are about £200 - £250 cheaper than an iPad for the cheapest model.
- Usually come with larger storage than an iPad these days.
Hell, even if you can get a Linux netbook, you can still say.... install Wine and attempt to run MSOffice 2010 on there. At best, an iPad can add two points to your ego compared to a netbook.
Serious question, have you used iWork for iOS? It is no Microsoft Office, but it does a fine job in handling layout and style-based formatting (something that IMO, Office handles terribly).
There is also the option of a bluetooth or docking keyboard (though IMO that kimd of defeats the point of the tablet).
Fortunately the original poster is in the United States, and has no problem with European price inflation.
As of the rest, well, I just figure you are one of those that hates everything Apple.
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On February 02 2012 02:59 Jibba wrote: A newer cheap laptop (which can be found for $300-400 these days) will suit your needs better than an iPad.
iPads and most tablets in general are just entertainment devices with a few minor work/presentation features built in, but it's much more difficult to be productive on them. The software isn't very powerful for creating documents and none of the OS's can really compete with Windows. Including Android, none of them can really do multitasking the same way you'd find on a real computer. Some documents might be saved but for instance, if I were writing this post on an iPad and opened up a new tab or app to look something up, this would all be lost because tablet browsers don't save states, they just reload the page each time you switch to it. Or if you want to browse TL during a SotG commercial, you can't do that without having the SotG window be suspended.
For pdfs, ebooks, movies, streams and simple web browsing, it's fine. For work and heavier web browsing, they're not. At that price range, you can find a cheap laptop that might not be as quick as an iPad/Tab/Prime, but is a lot more powerful.
im sorry, but the tablet computers are alot more to some people than entertainment devices. I work as a professional journalist and i have replaced my sampler, and all my notebooks for this single device. with an electronic pen i write all my interviews and planning. With the camera i take snapshots of noteboards and powerpoints to not have to write it all down and i also record lectures with it. For my type of job the pad is a one stop sollution for everything. I still use a computer to finalize texts and edit newspaper pages, but the way the pad has made my job easier and more organized is massive. Dont discount the usefulness of these devices just because you dont work that way with them
Edit: I can definitelly see how a student would benefit from a machine like this the same way i do.
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No not worth it, get a laptop/netbook
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Thanks for all the input guys. I just bought the Kindle Fire today after weighing on what I really need and what I don't along with ALL of your advice. It's a good deal for $200, it just is.
For a gamer who has a nice strong computer at home to do all the heavy duty work on and a laptop in case I need to do something special on the move, the Kindle Fire is an excellent add-on. Guys I feel like a caveman that just discovered fire (see what I did there). I never touch Apple products, so things like the Ipod, the iphone, and the ipad are completely foreign to me. I've always been the typical desktop and laptop gamer guy.
God... I don't know what to really say. It's just so goddamn portable. I load up my videos (Man VS Wild hehe) and all of my music, and go on my 40 min commute in the morning feeling entertained! When I get to class I still use my kindle to bring up my ebooks for the course, of course I don't use it for note taking- I prefer writing everything my notes over typing anyway. Then in between classes I can easily hit up the twitch.tv streams, go on youtube, chat on skype, keep multiple browser tabs out (I heard u can't do that with an iPad), and do some good reading.
Oh and if you're into reading manga online, the kindle is almost a must imo. I don't know if they developers did it on purpose but the viewing manga and comics is AMAZING on the kindle. I think it has to do something with the color or w/e- I don't know. I just know that I actually prefer to read manga on the Kindle than off my desktop or laptop which I found shocking.
My only gripe right now is the small amount of storage space, and this is just my first day with it so I'll have to wait and see how the weeks go by with it.
Thanks again everyone.
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On February 04 2012 11:47 Snuggles wrote: Thanks for all the input guys. I just bought the Kindle Fire today after weighing on what I really need and what I don't along with ALL of your advice. It's a good deal for $200, it just is.
Now that you've lived with it for a couple months, are you still using it as much?
If a Kindle Fire can do what you're after, an iPad might well have been overkill, and even now, after the drop in price for the iPad 2, would have been at least twice the price.
I love using the iPad for internet browsing, reading, playing games that adapt well to a touch screen, and viewing media. I don't love it for anything that requires extensive text input. For work purposes, I instead use an 11" Macbook Air, which is just about as portable as an iPad but has a real keyboard, a processor that's ten times faster, and on which I can conveniently VNC in to my desktop computer at work. It's also not that much more expensive than the high-end iPad.
I did order an iPad 3 for delivery Friday, so I'm specifically looking forward to the high resolution display, since my work is making digital images and a handheld 2k display opens up all kinds of options that haven't even been possible before. Might have to write some of my own software, though.
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I'm sorry, I found this in relation to the new iPad 3, and knew I HAD to post it on Teamliquid:
"Apple designs Macs, the best personal computers in the world, along with OS X, iLife, iWork [iExistence for and i-Centered life] and professional software. Apple leads the digital music revolution with its iPods and iTunes online store. Apple has reinvented the mobile phone with its revolutionary iPhone and App Store, and is defining the future of mobile media and computing devices with iPad."
No sir, I will not buy from you, because regardless of how nice your product is, you are an arrogant self-ubsessed stuck up fucking prick. Smiley
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They can actually defend most, if not, all of those claims. The iMacs are pretty much still the only all-in-ones that don't suck, they're the only PC company (perhaps old Thinkpad IBM and Sony too) that actually makes an effort to provide either high quality TN panels or IPS panels in their PCs, the iPod really did bring legal digital music into widespread adoption, and the iPad is still the only high priced tablet that matters.
So arrogant or not, they're all very easily defensible...because there's actually a grain (more like whole silo) of truth in those statements. I guess I'm sorry it makes you upset.
On February 02 2012 17:18 VManOfMana wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 11:18 Clbull wrote:How about I give you a better idea. Get a netbook. They'll set you back only around £150 - 200 (here in Britain) or whatever netbooks go for in the US nowadays.... Netbooks:- Are portable. They can fit inside your bag EZ PZ and won't take too much room.
- Run Microsoft Office, an actual internationally recognised PROPIETARY COMMERCIAL OFFICE SUITE, and not some crappy $5 iOS app that does a half-baked job at being a rich text editor.
- Have a keyboard. A physical keyboard. Not an on-screen piece of crap that smudges your screen horrendously after two minutes of use.
- Run flash.
- Won't make you look like a tool.
- Are about £200 - £250 cheaper than an iPad for the cheapest model.
- Usually come with larger storage than an iPad these days.
Hell, even if you can get a Linux netbook, you can still say.... install Wine and attempt to run MSOffice 2010 on there. At best, an iPad can add two points to your ego compared to a netbook. Serious question, have you used iWork for iOS? It is no Microsoft Office, but it does a fine job in handling layout and style-based formatting (something that IMO, Office handles terribly).
Yeah, I've used iWork, which is actually really cheap compared to Office, and its actually really good at creating presentable documents. Pages is really nice though Numbers is still god awful when you need to deal with huge worksheets. Funnily enough Excel on Mac seems to have similar problems where it just beachballs.
To add something else to that terrible post you quoted, an iPad has an IPS screen which makes it infinitely better to use than the netbook. People bitch about people wearing Beats Audio stuff so why isn't there a movement to shift people away from shitty $100 TN monitors and that god awful 1366x768 resolutions?
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On February 02 2012 12:02 Brett wrote: My boss bought them (iPad 2) for us all at work. For general emailing, web browsing and note taking, it's fine (I'm posting this msg from mine right now). Jibba is incorrect about the ipad's ability to multitask and save states. I've had posts I was writing on TL disappear multiple times when I create a new tab to go look something else up, because it reloads when you go back. The only OS with true multitasking at the moment is QNX on the Playbook.
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On March 15 2012 22:46 Jibba wrote: I've had posts I was writing on TL disappear multiple times when I create a new tab to go look something else up, because it reloads when you go back. The only OS with true multitasking at the moment is QNX on the Playbook.
It's true, Safari on the iPad doesn't play very well with TL in regard to posting. Still love my iPad for viewing media. It's a last resort for creating it.
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On February 02 2012 12:25 Manifesto7 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 12:02 Brett wrote: My boss bought them (iPad 2) for us all at work. For general emailing, web browsing and note taking, it's fine (I'm posting this msg from mine right now). Jibba is incorrect about the ipad's ability to multitask and save states. The biggest annoyance for me is the lack of flash compatibility, which doesn't appear to be something apple ever intends to remedy. The Skyfire browser solved most of my flash video needs. I love mine. But isn't skyfire laggy
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Another consideration as ive now gone through a few iPads and am done with them for good. Faulty LCDs seem to be the norm now due to bad glueing. This presents itself in the form of backlight bleeding. Every iPad I have gotten has had this problem in a very noticeable way, and looking online it appears to be extremely common, almost to the point of being a feature that people tell you to live with. It appears to be especially prevalent n the new iPad, although I purchased the iPad 2 and they've all had this problem too
If you're not too sensitive to light differences you could be fine on lower brightness settings I suppose. I personally can see it almost all the way down to absolute lowest in the middle of the day with a good amount of ambient light.
So, unless you want to go through a lot of iPads hoping to get a decent screen, I'd go with an alternative tablet, if you Faust have a tablet.
Also the iPad memory leaks like hell, so bad. Avoid the QC control mess that is apple right now unless you feel like taking your chances.
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Just get a smart phone man
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