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I don't need to tell you that this whole post is a massive spoiler to the GSL Finals. Don't read if you don't wish to know the results.
This is a funny story idea I had whilst watching the Code S Finals. The spoiler sections are straightforward recaps of each game, full credit for the spoiler sections goes to the Team Liquid review of the finals. Thanks for the awesome work TL <3
I am no story writer, so tbh this could sound absolutely crap. I'm sure it sounded way better in my head as many things do. But anyway, let me know what you think and I hope you enjoy the read.
The Wrath of the Trickster
It was possibly the harshest 2 months in the history of the harsh and brutal world that is Code S. Violence running rampant throughout everyday life, young newcomers who thought to prove themselves in taming the storm were cut down and brushed aside. Old Titans of strength whom many know and love were slaughtered just as easily. Falling to one they did not expect. One they had all laughed at in the past.
The Mad Trickster - MVP Genius
This man does not fight for good, he does not play honourably and he had a burning hate in his eyes. For too long had he stayed in the back alleys and sewers of the Code S world whilst brave and powerful fighters looked down upon him. It took the harsh words of his own Father to prompt his revenge. So Genius took to his lair, studied those he was to face and found their weaknesses whilst preparing traps to exploit their curiosity.
Genius lured the various Superheroes who maintain order in Code S to his various lairs about the World. They went in with confidence, ready to beat the man they had so easily crushed in the past. One by one... they fell. The Tricksters new found intelligence had them all begging for mercy. They were not even fair fights, the people of the World were shocked as the Trickster made himself known on the severed heads of their Heroes. Those whom they loved.
Who did people look to in these dark and dangerous times?
After so many had fallen, what remaining Hero could bring order back to Code S?
There was but one man.
Slowly making his name heard across the lands with victory after victory.
A rising star so close to his highest point.
The Last Superhero - MVP DongRaeGu
The former ally of Genius and possibly former friend. A Superhero with a long and steadily rising History, thwarting villain after villain and constantly trying to secure his position as a mainstay. One whom everyone looked to in times of need. The Powerhouse of strength, ingenuity and confidence.
He knew Genius well. He knew he had been preparing traps, he'd witnessed other heroes fall to Genius' wrath. When there was only himself and Genius left in this World, he knew what had to be done. He made for Genius' lair.
The Battle of the Ages
Fight 1 - Daybreak + Show Spoiler +Genius opened with a macro friendly strategy on a macro friendly map, going for a quick third base off just a stargate and four gateways. DongRaeGu had much success with heavy aggression against fast three base Protosses at the recent MLG Winter Arena, and looked to go on the offensive once more.
However, Genius played a great defensive game with his limited troops, keeping both his natural and third base safe and securing a strong economy. Genius then showed the patient, deliberate play that had been his hallmark throughout the tournament, and attacked once he had a death-ball DongRaeGu could not challenge. DongRaeGu attempted a backdoor attack to buy time, but Genius sniffed it out and thwarted it easily before moving on.
That left DongRaeGue stuck with just roaches and infestors as Genius advanced with colossi and blink-stalkers, and Genius cut a bloody path through the Zerg troops and expansions, collecting the GG.
DongRaeGu entered the lair of Genius, no traps were prepared and no ambush lay in wait. Genius simply stood in the middle of the room, staring DongRaeGu in the eyes with an arrogant grin. He would not even attempt to catch DongRaeGu off guard, he wanted to fight toe to toe. DongRaeGu did not hesitate and they clashed. DongRaeGu being fiercely aggressive as Genius was forced to keep defending the relentless onslaught. However his agile and quick defence was enough, soon DongRaeGu began to tire and that is when Genius struck the first blow which left DongRaeGu beaten but not defeated.
Fight 2 - Antiga Shipyard + Show Spoiler +Genius brought a well prepared cheese in game two, going for a forge FE into a hidden, double proxy-stargate build. He waited for three void rays and three phoenixes to attack, and walked into a spore and two queens defending DongRaeGu's third base. Though it seemed like a completely winnable battle, Genius became skittish at that second, and backed off to look for a different location to hit.
It was a moment of fatal indecision, as it allowed DongRaeGu to complete even more spore crawlers and queens, rendering the attack useless. There was only one possible ending after Genius' failed attack left him with a weak army against DongRaeGu's powerhouse three-base economy. DongRaeGu sent waves of troops to finish Genius off, not wasting any time to move onto game three.
It was time for Genius to begin toying with the Superhero, he lured him to their new battleground at the nearby Shipyards. It was dark and late at night, rain flooding over DongRaeGu's blooded face, yet his determination was not hindered. He knew that the Trickster must fall or else all is lost. The Shipyard was quiet and there was no sight of Genius. Until suddenly Genius' laugh could be heard echoing throughout the docks. DongRaeGu looked up and saw Genius standing high upon some scaffolding looking down at him. DongRaeGu was prepared for another fight, yet it was not to be so, Genius smile grew wider and he pressed a button on a small switch. DongRaeGu heard a metal sliding sound and suddenly from his rear, several starved Tigers charged for him. The Trickster had sprung his first deadly trap upon the Superhero. However it would not be enough, for DongRaeGu was raised and trained in the lowest and grimiest arenas around the World, he had faced Tigers before. He not only dodged their initial attacks but he struck them down quickly before turning to a suddenly scared Genius. Genius attempted to flee but only cornered himself, DongRaeGu charged at the Trickster and once again they clashed. Genius fought back but this time DongRaeGu fought differently allowing him to beat the Trickster to his knees. A flash of power and Genius was gone, limping away to his next planned arena.
Fight 3 - ESV Cloud Kingdom + Show Spoiler +Unfazed by his failed cheese in game two, Genius reached into his bag of tricks for yet another. This time it was a low-sentry blink stalker all-in with +1 attack, and it turned out to be just the right thing against DongRaeGu's fast three base defended with primarily speedlings. Even though Genius didn't have force fields to use against the melee attackers, it only took an additional round of zealot warp-ins to remedy the speedling situation and crush through DongRaeGu's defenses.
Not phased by his defeat Genius readied his next trap for the incoming DongRaeGu. However DongRaeGu was beginning to wise up and instead of marching through the front door, he peeked in some windows. Yet what did he see? He saw Genius standing again in the centre of an empty room, waiting for DongRaeGu to come through the door. Ready to fight an even battle once more. DongRaeGu had begun to work out how Genius fought and thus entered with a confidence that he could take him. However it was not to be so. A faint ping is heard as DongRaeGu marches boldly toward Genius. A tripwire was sprung and before DongRaeGu could even blink a car fell from the roof straight onto our Superhero. Genius laughed and left the Superhero trying to pull his bruised body from underneath. Unlike others however, DongRaeGu is a man of both strength and intelligence. His suit had reinforcement to prevent serious damage, he was however bloodied up once again and left chasing the Trickster to another location.
Fight 4 - Entombed Valley + Show Spoiler +For the third straight game, Genius decided to throw a curveball DRG's way. After opening with two stargates after a fast expansion, he went for a fleet beacon and carriers. This turned out to be tantamount to suicide, as it left him almost nothing to defend against against the hydralisk and roach drops that came. The drops crippled Genius' economy, and allowed DongRaeGu to easily take his fourth base while switching to a corruptor-zerglings composition. Corruptors cut through the carriers with tremendous ease, and sealed the game for DongRaeGu.
Genius had once again prepared traps for our Superhero, yet this time the Madness started to show through. Genius stood at the end of a long corridor as DongRaeGu kicked the door down. Genius laughed insanely but DongRaeGu simply marched ahead with a bold determination and desire for revenge. This time a pressure plate sprung the trap, concealed beneath a floor tile. However this was no deadly trap. A small panel in the wall dropped open and a large spring flung a huge custard pie at DongRaeGu's head. He stood there, both confused and amazed as Genius kept laughing. He begun to scrape the mushy pie off his head. Genius then stopped laughing and begun to realise that his trap wasn't deadly at all. Infact DongRaeGu was still walking towards him, with bits of Pie on his face, now more angry than when he first arrived. Genius attempted to run, but DongRaeGu caught him quickly. This time Genius put up no real fight, DongRaeGu beat the Trickster and threw him out of a nearby window.
Fight 5 - Metropolis + Show Spoiler +The fifth game ended up resembling the first, with both DongRaeGu and Genius getting three quick bases. Once more, DongRaeGu decided to try for an attack before Genius' economy kicked in, bringing queens, roaches, and zerglings on the warpath. At first, it looked like Genius would hold the fort without any trouble, but a few micro mistakes caused him to lose more troops than necessary on defense. More crucially, he was unable to keep a gap plugged at his natural while his third base was being attacked, allowing speedlings to pour in and tear down his main nexus.
Despite the loss of a Nexus, the situation ended up looking alright for Genius, as he had killed off a significant portion of DongRaeGu's army, leaving the two players at similar supply. Genius simply retook his main and decided to wait and play a longer game. In the meanwhile, DongRaeGu began to secure more bases while going for mutalisks, the key to his backdoor tactics to come.
As DongRaeGu poked at Genius' defenses, he managed to draw enough of the Protoss forces away from the third base for a force of roaches to focus-fire the nexus down. DongRaeGu lost a significant amount of roaches in the process, and it opened a window for a deadly counter-attack from Genius. DongRaeGu knew the only response was to go for a base trade, and sent his mutalisks and speedlings on their way.
With his powerful army, Genius seemed like he had a chance to win the base race. However, he was indecisive and ended up dawdling, with his army walking back and forth without a purpose. Each second bought DongRaeGu more time to collect resources and build more troops, while he destroyed Genius' income and infrastructure at the same time. Genius went for the all-out base trade eventually, but he had waited too long. By the time he destroyed DongRaeGu's main and natural his own income was entirely gone while DongRaeGu had two more mining bases elsewhere. Once DongRaeGu had enough mutalisks to fight Genius' main stalker force head on, the game was over.
The window was not high, but it lead into the main City itself. DongRaeGu climbed out the window to follow the Trickster, not wanting to let him escape. Genius was beginning to doubt himself. His latest trap which he thought was brilliant, was in fact useless. DongRaeGu was still standing as strong as ever and marching boldly toward him. Genius did the only thing he could and attempted to fight him evenly once again. They drew their weapons and clashed fiercely. Genius may of been mad but his skill in battle was not diminished. The doubt from his previous failures was gnawing at him however. He began to slip up, DongRaeGu capitalising on every mistake eventually overwhelmed Genius with his superior strength. Genius was now covered in bruises and cuts from the repeated losses to DongRaeGu, and with his final energy he attempted to flee the city into the countryside.
DongRaeGu followed...
Fight Six - The Final Showdown - Crossfire + Show Spoiler +On the most cheese friendly map of the night, both players opted to play normally yet again. Genius patiently built a large force of colossi and stalkers from his two bases, while DongRaeGu went for roaches, hydralisks, and infestors on his end. There were large periods where the game was just a stand-off, but the situation rapidly broke down once Genius decided to start attacking.
DongRaeGu attempted to backdoor with a handful of his forces, and there was a great deal of indecision on Genius' side once more. Eventually he was able to bring his forces to bear on both DongRaeGu's splinter army and main force, and crush both with well positioned stalkers and good use of force fields.
With his ground army crushed, DongRaeGu immediately switched his plan to harassment and backstabbing at all costs, and put down an obscene amount of spine crawlers at his natural while he switched to mutalisks. He was forced to sacrifice his third base, however, and this put the two players in a strange two base vs two base situation. Inexplicably, a single burrowed zergling blocking his third base seemed to convince Genius that he had to finish the game at this two base vs two base phase, and he continued to mass more and more stalkers. On the other hand, DongRaeGu looked desperately for ways to secure his own third, using his mutalisks to harass while trying to sneak in the extra base.
There was a great deal of posturing, troop movement, and hastily initiated and quickly abandoned attacks on both sides, but eventually DongRaeGu managed to find a window to complete a hatchery at his third base, slowly crawl some spine crawlers over, and secure mining at that location. As for Genius, his natural mined out, and he was forced to go all-in with the stalkers he had remaining. The attack did much damage and thinned DongRaeGu's mutalisk flock considerably, but anything but a complete annihilation of the Zerg army meant a loss for the penniless Genius. After losing his force, he conceded defeat.
DongRaeGu was barely having to keep a running pace to keep up with Genius. As Genius began to realise that DongRaeGu wasn't going to tire, he stopped. He turned to DongRaeGu and demanded they fight without weapons and without armour. They both got rid of any swords, daggers and any other weapons they had been using, also taking off their armour leaving only clothes. They raised their fists and stared each other angrily in the eyes. Genius was on his last legs yet was not going to give up. DongRaeGu was fighting strong and had much left in him. They charged at each other and in a back and forth fight that lasted for what felt like an age. They traded blows repeatedly, forcing each other past all barriers of pain and energy. They were almost crawling by the end, barely a breath left within them, Genius was getting ready to swing his arm once more but DongRaeGu suddenly realised...
The final opponent was infront of him.
He had been fighting to prove himself for so long.
His chance at victory was upon him.
DongRaeGu suddenly conjured up that reserve of strength and determination all seem to have within them, a surge that can seemingly only be unlocked through mental determination. With a final battle cry he struck Genius for the last time. Genius had fallen and beside him lay the exhausted and beaten DongRaeGu.
Everywhere was silent. They both lay in a large dirt road motionless. Rain washing over them. The civilians of the World who had been watching from a distance started to emerge from the nearby tree's and bushes with many following from the city. They walked slowly toward both of them. Everyone was still silent as they were not sure what had happened. Then DongRaeGu let out a strained cough, everyone realised he was infact alive and victorious. They quickly ran to his side and carried him back to the city where they tended his wounds.
DongRaeGu had fought tooth and nail and emerged victorious. The Trickster had potential yet his madness was all too apparent, resulting in a slow downfall to the superior strength of the final Superhero. The man of the hour and some might say the man of the Year, DongRaeGu.
Fin
Is DongRaeGu the best player in the World now? Is it now a definite yes, no more reason to doubt? Even though I was rooting for Genius for nostalgic reasons, my answer is absolutely Yes. DongRaeGu has never been in my favourite top 3, purely because there's always been someone else there I liked more, yet I do now believe he is the best player in the world.
Thanks to DongRaeGu and Genius for the awesome display. Thanks to the GSL for bringing us the AMAZING season of Code S. Thanks to Tasteless and Artosis for casting it. Lastly thanks to Team Liquid for their awesome pre and reviews of the whole thing. Remember, 100% of the credit to the spoiler sections of this post goes to the TL review: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=317319
After posting I just realised how long this post actually is. If you read through it all then mad props to you. There is no tl;dr if anyone skipped down here :D
Thanks for reading. - Tristran
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that carrier build was completely retarded, what was he thinking
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On March 04 2012 06:20 isleyofthenorth wrote: that carrier build was completely retarded, what was he thinking
True. I think Genius actually did try to Give at least 1 game to DRG. Either that or he was being way too cocky, and then he said at the end he didn't feel he needed to get to a finals again. If his performance isn't great next season then I might be taking him off my favourites list, I don't care for players without passion. :/
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Blazinghand
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On March 04 2012 06:23 Tristran wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 06:20 isleyofthenorth wrote: that carrier build was completely retarded, what was he thinking True. I think Genius actually did try to Give at least 1 game to DRG. Either that or he was being way too cocky, and then he said at the end he didn't feel he needed to get to a finals again. If his performance isn't great next season then I might be taking him off my favourites list, I don't care for players without passion. :/
3 Base Carrier is not a retarded build. He came so close to winning with those carriers that I was shouting, waking up nearby roommates and losing a lot of goodwill. Genius is notorious for his willingness to use nonstandard play, and just because other Protoss players don't use carriers against Zergs in a GSL context doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to do so.
The fact of the matter is, Genius is an amazing player and that carrier strategy was NOT an attempt to throw a game. He did it because he thought it would win, and it almost did. It's viable.
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On March 04 2012 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 06:23 Tristran wrote:On March 04 2012 06:20 isleyofthenorth wrote: that carrier build was completely retarded, what was he thinking True. I think Genius actually did try to Give at least 1 game to DRG. Either that or he was being way too cocky, and then he said at the end he didn't feel he needed to get to a finals again. If his performance isn't great next season then I might be taking him off my favourites list, I don't care for players without passion. :/ 3 Base Carrier is not a retarded build. He came so close to winning with those carriers that I was shouting, waking up nearby roommates and losing a lot of goodwill. Genius is notorious for his willingness to use nonstandard play, and just because other Protoss players don't use carriers against Zergs in a GSL context doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to do so. The fact of the matter is, Genius is an amazing player and that carrier strategy was NOT an attempt to throw a game. He did it because he thought it would win, and it almost did. It's viable.
I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that DRG's pressure killed him without ever scouting the carriers. really solid build when somebody can do that... lol I'm not sure which game you were watching but he never came close to winning with those carriers. They never even left his base and they only started to clean up the army after the 3rd died and lings were everywhere while DRG took his 4th and 5th bases. Yeah... real close...
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Blazinghand
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On March 04 2012 06:49 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:On March 04 2012 06:23 Tristran wrote:On March 04 2012 06:20 isleyofthenorth wrote: that carrier build was completely retarded, what was he thinking True. I think Genius actually did try to Give at least 1 game to DRG. Either that or he was being way too cocky, and then he said at the end he didn't feel he needed to get to a finals again. If his performance isn't great next season then I might be taking him off my favourites list, I don't care for players without passion. :/ 3 Base Carrier is not a retarded build. He came so close to winning with those carriers that I was shouting, waking up nearby roommates and losing a lot of goodwill. Genius is notorious for his willingness to use nonstandard play, and just because other Protoss players don't use carriers against Zergs in a GSL context doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to do so. The fact of the matter is, Genius is an amazing player and that carrier strategy was NOT an attempt to throw a game. He did it because he thought it would win, and it almost did. It's viable. I'd agree with you if it wasn't for the fact that DRG's pressure killed him without ever scouting the carriers. really solid build when somebody can do that... lol I'm not sure which game you were watching but he never came close to winning with those carriers. They never even left his base and they only started to clean up the army after the 3rd died and lings were everywhere while DRG took his 4th and 5th bases. Yeah... real close...
Genius has used this exact build before in the GSL, in fact, he's used it against a zerg player who did a drop rush, and he held better. http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors7/vod/66530
Granted, Symbol is no DRG, but this idea that Genius did some build that was clearly throwing a game when he used it last season during a crucial Code A game strikes me as completely preposterous. Maybe you could say "well this wasn't the right map for it" or "against his teammate DRG who knows he can do this sort of thing it's not a good idea" but don't dismiss a professional player using a build that has worked before out of hand like that.
EDIT: I'm just saying that like, it's important to have respect for the pros. Whenever I see something I don't understand in Code S/A I don't think "oh he made a mistake"-- instead, I think "oh, he's doing something I don't understand" and I try to figure out what it is. My first assumption isn't "he's doing something weird, he must be bad". It's "he's doing something weird-- I should pay attention and try to learn."
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On March 04 2012 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 06:23 Tristran wrote:On March 04 2012 06:20 isleyofthenorth wrote: that carrier build was completely retarded, what was he thinking True. I think Genius actually did try to Give at least 1 game to DRG. Either that or he was being way too cocky, and then he said at the end he didn't feel he needed to get to a finals again. If his performance isn't great next season then I might be taking him off my favourites list, I don't care for players without passion. :/ 3 Base Carrier is not a retarded build. He came so close to winning with those carriers that I was shouting
Well I agree that he didnt try to throw the game. But in what world was he close to winning that game? DRG could have waited till Genius was maxed on carrier and rolled him with corruptors, the combination of the active spell the bonus damage vs massive and very high armor make the corrupter just perfect against the carrier, there is no critical mass genius could have reached that would have helped him. Only scenario where carriers can win is when they come as a suprise.
If you really thought that he had a good chance of winning you misjudged that game completely
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That carrier build did almost work. As Tastosis said in their commentary, most zergs on that map in that situation go for some kind of (drop-less) roach/hyrda bust when they see the protoss player get their 3rd base. Had DRG just played a standard game, Genius would have taken him by storm. The sentries and FFs were going to allow Genius to hold that just fine before moving in with 7 carriers that the zerg player had no idea were coming. 7 Carriers vs. no Spire = death for zerg (the element of surprise is everything here, as carriers are too easily countered if the opponent has time to prepare). However, DRG chose the drop play, which Genius was not only unprepared for, but he failed to scout it coming (he slipped with his phoenix control mid-map and let them die right before the drops would have come into view). This took up Genius' time so much that he was unable to counter before the Spire tech was completed and corrupters were on the way. Genius' strategy was brilliant, but his opponent did something unexpected, and Genius failed to scout it coming due to a mistake in micro.
From what I could tell, Genius didn't throw this series away, but his nerves did get to him. He played very sloppily in multiple games yesterday, even though his choice of strategy was amazing. DRG dodged a bullet. I haven't been too impressed with Genius in the past, but now I hope he can overcome his nerves and see him play again. His mind games are awesome.
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When he could have been massing voidrays instead...? 3 Base carrier is retarded.
Genius killed himself with non-standard play and indecisiveness.
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On March 04 2012 07:27 isleyofthenorth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 06:39 Blazinghand wrote:On March 04 2012 06:23 Tristran wrote:On March 04 2012 06:20 isleyofthenorth wrote: that carrier build was completely retarded, what was he thinking True. I think Genius actually did try to Give at least 1 game to DRG. Either that or he was being way too cocky, and then he said at the end he didn't feel he needed to get to a finals again. If his performance isn't great next season then I might be taking him off my favourites list, I don't care for players without passion. :/ 3 Base Carrier is not a retarded build. He came so close to winning with those carriers that I was shouting Well I agree that he didnt try to throw the game. But in what world was he close to winning that game? DRG could have waited till Genius was maxed on carrier and rolled him with corruptors, the combination of the active spell the bonus damage vs massive and very high armor make the corrupter just perfect against the carrier, there is no critical mass genius could have reached that would have helped him. Only scenario where carriers can win is when they come as a suprise. If you really thought that he had a good chance of winning you misjudged that game completely
DRG didn't know the carriers were there until he dropped - the phoenixes shut down his scouting completely up to that point. Since he had chosen hydra tech instead of spire, DRG would have died to those carriers had his drop not been so successful. Genius was very close to winning that game.
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On March 04 2012 07:35 Cyber_Cheese wrote: When he could have been massing voidrays instead...? 3 Base carrier is retarded.
Genious killed himself with non-standard play and indecisiveness.
Carriers are better against hydras than voids are. He used the phoenix to force the hydra tech and then pre-planned to counter hydra with carriers. Otherwise, yes, carriers are not a good unit to get. This game was different.
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If the carrier build would have worked, Genius would have looked ... well, genius.
I am afraid that DRG's in-booth BM actually hurt Genius focus on the games.
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Would of been amazing if the Carrier strat had worked, if DRG didn't plan a drop offensive it probably would of. Shame really, but regardless I found the whole finals very entertaining, not least of all because I was dreaming up that weird story way of telling it as I watched.
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I don't know why you guys are saying the carrier build was bad. It was EXTREMELY well thought-out. Genius opens 2stargate phoenix pressure to force a roach/infestor or roach/hydra composition and no spire, then takes 3bases and goes carriers on the map where it's hardest to break the 3base (due to the ramp setup). You could see him getting a shitton of cannons and lining them up right outside his nat/third; if DRG had done anything other than roach/hydra drop, the carrier build would have worked amazingly.
Genius also got very unlucky with his phoenix scouts hitting a bunch of camped hydras, though that may have just been brilliance on DRG's part.
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On March 04 2012 06:39 Blazinghand wrote: The fact of the matter is, Genius is an amazing player and that carrier strategy was NOT an attempt to throw a game. He did it because he thought it would win, and it almost did. It's viable. What really annoyed me (I am a zerg player) is the last game.
He could have taken out the third and taken the backdoor into the main and killed it, and taken his third and cannoned up.
Instead he attacked into a spine wall.
I can't understand why.
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On March 04 2012 06:20 isleyofthenorth wrote: that carrier build was completely retarded, what was he thinking
The only reason that DRG won is because of that drop, without that drop Protoss can Turtle soooo ez on Entombed that you can go mass air and survive and just move out. Because Zerg T3 doesn't hit air, White-Ra does this all the time. Just DRG is one step ahead and decided to go drops.
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Blazinghand
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On March 04 2012 08:18 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 06:20 isleyofthenorth wrote: that carrier build was completely retarded, what was he thinking The only reason that DRG won is because of that drop, without that drop Protoss can Turtle soooo ez on Entombed that you can go mass air and survive and just move out. Because Zerg T3 doesn't hit air, White-Ra does this all the time. Just DRG is one step ahead and decided to go drops.
Yeah I think that game was more a case of "DRG is really good" than "Genius played poorly". DRG definitely deserved his victories and is a great (if not the greatest) zerg player, and I think this was one of the most exciting GSL finals ever.
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need pictures, then you can have a storybook XD
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On March 04 2012 15:47 neoghaleon55 wrote: need pictures, then you can have a storybook XD
If I could draw then I would Genius looked like the Joker in my mind. DongRaeGu as Batman.
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On March 04 2012 16:00 Tristran wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 15:47 neoghaleon55 wrote: need pictures, then you can have a storybook XD If I could draw then I would Genius looked like the Joker in my mind. DongRaeGu as Batman.
Or you can photoshop like me. XD
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I guess I'm going to be a critic and give some comments on your story. I'll start with things I like.
I really like how heroic you portray DRG and how much effort he had to put in to beat someone like Genius. DRG's awesome, and he deserves more fan fics.
I don't like your portrayal of Genius as some sort of monster who lurk in shadows. Genius in reality is just as valiant as DRG, feels like your story is biased heavily towards one guy than the other, and it really doesn't do Genius justice.
The rivalry between DRG and Genius came off as generic hero vs villain and is quite 1 dimensional, instead of what it really is: brother, rival, best friend and enemy.
But to end on a good note, I do like how well thought out the mind games were in your story. It's a cute passionate blog. Thanks.
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On March 04 2012 17:21 neoghaleon55 wrote: I guess I'm going to be a critic and give some comments on your story. I'll start with things I like.
I really like how heroic you portray DRG and how much effort he had to put in to beat someone like Genius. DRG's awesome, and he deserves more fan fics.
I don't like your portrayal of Genius as some sort of monster who lurk in shadows. Genius in reality is just as valiant as DRG, feels like your story is biased heavily towards one guy than the other, and it really doesn't do Genius justice.
The rivalry between DRG and Genius came off as generic hero vs villain and is quite 1 dimensional, instead of what it really is: brother, rival, best friend and enemy.
But to end on a good note, I do like how well thought out the mind games were in your story. It's a cute passionate blog. Thanks.
Yea, I wasn't sure if everyone would be happy with the way I portrayed Genius. I will say however, I was cheering for Genius and I voted for him on Liquibet. He was the first player I ever saw in a professional eSports game, back at Blizzcon 2010. I fell in love with the game and him. I love DongRaeGu as well, but I love Genius just a little bit more.
I put him in a villain sort of role due to his tendency to trick his opponents and feed them false information. I also said he lurked in the shadows as for a long time he's been in Code S, but that's about it, he's never gotten far in it always being overshadowed by many others. I didnt intend him to be a "Monster" more of a Super villain or something.
If I wrote a totally analytical review of the finals I would be laying praise on Genius for several of those games, he did some FANTASTIC stuff that had me giddy, thinking he was going to win the whole thing.
But anyway, thanks.
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I might get a little hate for it but:
I know they're teammates, and I know that in the end their team was winning, and maybe they were stressed because they were teammates, I don't know. I think Genius is a great protoss, and I think DRG is probably the best zerg player in the world at the moment (though Nestea is still ahead based on consistency still I think). But frankly I think they both played like shit in the finals.
Again, i know it's the finals, i know they were probably happy just to have an MVP (our team gets the money no matter what), stress because they're teammates or hard time taking it too seriously because they'd effectively already won, and I'm not saying they're bad players or anything like that, but the quality and level of those games in terms of skill made me cringe.
Of course it was the finals, so it was probably the best games ever to some people. And they were close, and somehow to a lot of people a game being close = it being a good game, because close for a lot of people is more interesting than actual skill. I'm not trashing on those people that find more entertainment from that either. For me however, I would have rather seen the two of them play well (and frankly I think it would have still made for awesome close games), than one where there are mistakes and horrible decisions and bad ideas left and right all over, but it's close in the end so it's "epic". I just wanted to let that off somewhere.
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On March 04 2012 19:03 Angel_ wrote: I might get a little hate for it but:
I know they're teammates, and I know that in the end their team was winning, and maybe they were stressed because they were teammates, I don't know. I think Genius is a great protoss, and I think DRG is probably the best zerg player in the world at the moment (though Nestea is still ahead based on consistency still I think). But frankly I think they both played like shit in the finals.
Again, i know it's the finals, i know they were probably happy just to have an MVP (our team gets the money no matter what), stress because they're teammates or hard time taking it too seriously because they'd effectively already won, and I'm not saying they're bad players or anything like that, but the quality and level of those games in terms of skill made me cringe.
Of course it was the finals, so it was probably the best games ever to some people. And they were close, and somehow to a lot of people a game being close = it being a good game, because close for a lot of people is more interesting than actual skill. I'm not trashing on those people that find more entertainment from that either. For me however, I would have rather seen the two of them play well (and frankly I think it would have still made for awesome close games), than one where there are mistakes and horrible decisions and bad ideas left and right all over, but it's close in the end so it's "epic". I just wanted to let that off somewhere.
I whole heartedly agree that this wasn't their best plays. But I will try to give two reasons why.
1. This is both their first GSL finals. Both of them have a lot to prove and a whole lot to lose. DRG seems to have more to lose, because if he lost he would be the mocking stock of the esports world for months with the label "kongline." I think nerves got to them...especially Genius, who hasn't played on the big stage since like 2010...
2. The first 4 games were actually quite interesting to watch, with the exception of that bungled voidray attack on game 2...the plays themselves were very solid. I especially admire game 3 in which Genius did a late +1 upgrade fein into a 7 gate stalker 2 base allin attack. The longer the series went, however, you can really see Genius's stamina deteriorate... Again he's not used to playing such long series. If you look at Genius's GSL run, he rarely if ever goes long in a series. Starting with game 5, he became very indecisive and wobbly with his control. Perhaps it was fatigue the game or the stress...or perhaps it was because his builds were not working as planned that tilted him...Regardless, DRG has an edge in longer series, as he tend to drag them out to the final games: 3:4 vs MMA, 4:3 vs Parting, 3:2 vs Gumiho....DRG has stamia(his girlfriend is very lucky! ^_~).
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On March 04 2012 20:09 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 19:03 Angel_ wrote: I might get a little hate for it but:
I know they're teammates, and I know that in the end their team was winning, and maybe they were stressed because they were teammates, I don't know. I think Genius is a great protoss, and I think DRG is probably the best zerg player in the world at the moment (though Nestea is still ahead based on consistency still I think). But frankly I think they both played like shit in the finals.
Again, i know it's the finals, i know they were probably happy just to have an MVP (our team gets the money no matter what), stress because they're teammates or hard time taking it too seriously because they'd effectively already won, and I'm not saying they're bad players or anything like that, but the quality and level of those games in terms of skill made me cringe.
Of course it was the finals, so it was probably the best games ever to some people. And they were close, and somehow to a lot of people a game being close = it being a good game, because close for a lot of people is more interesting than actual skill. I'm not trashing on those people that find more entertainment from that either. For me however, I would have rather seen the two of them play well (and frankly I think it would have still made for awesome close games), than one where there are mistakes and horrible decisions and bad ideas left and right all over, but it's close in the end so it's "epic". I just wanted to let that off somewhere. I whole heartedly agree that this wasn't their best plays. But I will try to give two reasons why. 1. This is both their first GSL finals. Both of them have a lot to prove and a whole lot to lose. DRG seems to have more to lose, because if he lost he would be the mocking stock of the esports world for months with the label "kongline." I think nerves got to them...especially Genius, who hasn't played on the big stage since like 2010... 2. The first 4 games were actually quite interesting to watch, with the exception of that bungled voidray attack on game 2...the plays themselves were very solid. I especially admire game 3 in which Genius did a late +1 upgrade fein into a 7 gate stalker 2 base allin attack. The longer the series went, however, you can really see Genius's stamina deteriorate... Again he's not used to playing such long series. If you look at Genius's GSL run, he rarely if ever goes long in a series. Starting with game 5, he became very indecisive and wobbly with his control. Perhaps it was fatigue the game or the stress...or perhaps it was because his builds were not working as planned that tilted him...Regardless, DRG has an edge in longer series, as he tend to drag them out to the final games: 3:4 vs MMA, 4:3 vs Parting, 3:2 vs Gumiho....DRG has stamia(his girlfriend is very lucky! ^_~).
oh I know, and again, i understand nerves/stress/happiness probably interfered, and there was definitely alot of reason to be excited and hyped as a fan just because of what was on the line, but, i just felt like i needed to comment on "good games for closeness/entertainment" vs "good games for skill"
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On March 04 2012 20:21 Angel_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 20:09 neoghaleon55 wrote:On March 04 2012 19:03 Angel_ wrote: I might get a little hate for it but:
I know they're teammates, and I know that in the end their team was winning, and maybe they were stressed because they were teammates, I don't know. I think Genius is a great protoss, and I think DRG is probably the best zerg player in the world at the moment (though Nestea is still ahead based on consistency still I think). But frankly I think they both played like shit in the finals.
Again, i know it's the finals, i know they were probably happy just to have an MVP (our team gets the money no matter what), stress because they're teammates or hard time taking it too seriously because they'd effectively already won, and I'm not saying they're bad players or anything like that, but the quality and level of those games in terms of skill made me cringe.
Of course it was the finals, so it was probably the best games ever to some people. And they were close, and somehow to a lot of people a game being close = it being a good game, because close for a lot of people is more interesting than actual skill. I'm not trashing on those people that find more entertainment from that either. For me however, I would have rather seen the two of them play well (and frankly I think it would have still made for awesome close games), than one where there are mistakes and horrible decisions and bad ideas left and right all over, but it's close in the end so it's "epic". I just wanted to let that off somewhere. I whole heartedly agree that this wasn't their best plays. But I will try to give two reasons why. 1. This is both their first GSL finals. Both of them have a lot to prove and a whole lot to lose. DRG seems to have more to lose, because if he lost he would be the mocking stock of the esports world for months with the label "kongline." I think nerves got to them...especially Genius, who hasn't played on the big stage since like 2010... oh I know, and again, i understand nerves/stress/happiness probably interfered, and there was definitely alot of reason to be excited and hyped as a fan just because of what was on the line, but, i just felt like i needed to comment on "good games for closeness/entertainment" vs "good games for skill"
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On March 04 2012 20:21 Angel_ wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 04 2012 20:09 neoghaleon55 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2012 19:03 Angel_ wrote: I might get a little hate for it but:
I know they're teammates, and I know that in the end their team was winning, and maybe they were stressed because they were teammates, I don't know. I think Genius is a great protoss, and I think DRG is probably the best zerg player in the world at the moment (though Nestea is still ahead based on consistency still I think). But frankly I think they both played like shit in the finals.
Again, i know it's the finals, i know they were probably happy just to have an MVP (our team gets the money no matter what), stress because they're teammates or hard time taking it too seriously because they'd effectively already won, and I'm not saying they're bad players or anything like that, but the quality and level of those games in terms of skill made me cringe.
Of course it was the finals, so it was probably the best games ever to some people. And they were close, and somehow to a lot of people a game being close = it being a good game, because close for a lot of people is more interesting than actual skill. I'm not trashing on those people that find more entertainment from that either. For me however, I would have rather seen the two of them play well (and frankly I think it would have still made for awesome close games), than one where there are mistakes and horrible decisions and bad ideas left and right all over, but it's close in the end so it's "epic". I just wanted to let that off somewhere. I whole heartedly agree that this wasn't their best plays. But I will try to give two reasons why. 1. This is both their first GSL finals. Both of them have a lot to prove and a whole lot to lose. DRG seems to have more to lose, because if he lost he would be the mocking stock of the esports world for months with the label "kongline." I think nerves got to them...especially Genius, who hasn't played on the big stage since like 2010... 2. The first 4 games were actually quite interesting to watch, with the exception of that bungled voidray attack on game 2...the plays themselves were very solid. I especially admire game 3 in which Genius did a late +1 upgrade fein into a 7 gate stalker 2 base allin attack. The longer the series went, however, you can really see Genius's stamina deteriorate... Again he's not used to playing such long series. If you look at Genius's GSL run, he rarely if ever goes long in a series. Starting with game 5, he became very indecisive and wobbly with his control. Perhaps it was fatigue the game or the stress...or perhaps it was because his builds were not working as planned that tilted him...Regardless, DRG has an edge in longer series, as he tend to drag them out to the final games: 3:4 vs MMA, 4:3 vs Parting, 3:2 vs Gumiho....DRG has stamia(his girlfriend is very lucky! ^_~). oh I know, and again, i understand nerves/stress/happiness probably interfered, and there was definitely alot of reason to be excited and hyped as a fan just because of what was on the line, but, i just felt like i needed to comment on "good games for closeness/entertainment" vs "good games for skill"
No they absolutely were not the most skillful games, with the possible exception of that +1 attack by Genius on Cloud Kingdom, that was.. well.. Genius. They were entertaining for several reasons: 1. Genius doing a lot of trickery. 2. The players mocking each other. 3. The crazy strats (carriers anyone?) which had me all excited thinking they would work. 4. Both likeable players with a ton of fans, and on the same team. I doubt I'm the only one who loved both of those players.
Entertaining, but not the best display of skill ever. Whilst I admire the pure skill of SC2 players more than anything, I don't get much enjoyment when a player with skill crushes one without (Nestea vs Inca...). The best thing is when two Titans of skill clash head to head, preferably without the game plan to just trick each other.
Edit: Great finals, but I'm reluctant to call it The Best finals.
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It's the best finals in my mind...because my DRG finally won and escaped the kongline.
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