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Provocateur
Sweden1665 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
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Noobity
United States871 Posts
On May 14 2012 15:59 JollYRoGeR wrote: This is hilarious, I've met lots of Germans who have problems understanding irony/sarcasm. Quite funny! : ) The funny thing about this is the one guy I know "straight off the boat" from Germany, who's like 60 now, is the most ironic/sarcastic guy I know. What kills me about him is he is able to be 100% deadpan about it, constantly. I think my position in the party would be the exact same given the same circumstance. I love most people from other countries (except Brits. I have had considerably fewer good interractions with them than bad for some reason. I try, they just don't like me :< ) but the culture shock is huge at times. | ||
Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
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Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
They can be particularly condescending to Norwegians because of the union etc. (and the "norwegians just have oil"-mantra) Or in this case; to Americans, of whom, most of them know nothing about. Lets face it - the leftist Scandinavians favorite way to pass the time is/was bashing on Bush/republicans/"the stupid Americans" Im not saying every Swede is like that, because thats not the case. However Ive met shitload of people that fit that description. Those who arent like that are usually awesome. It is what it is... | ||
Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Swedes (and other Scandinavians) on holidays/trips are always really, really drunk. Alcohol is pretty expensive there, and they don't have a "drinking culture" like pretty much all of Middle Europe. Not that it's a good thing to have one, mind you. But when they get to another country where they see cheap alcohol thrown at them, they just take everything they can get. Next problem is that they can't hold their liquor for shit and are drunk as hell after 3 beers. I might sound like I'm stereotyping them unfairly, but I've met enough Scandinavians over the course of my life, from young Students to 30+ y.o.'s on business trips to say this. The only Scandinavins you will meet OUTSIDE of Scandinavia that are not absolutely plastered all the time are either families (because of their kids) or they've lived abroad for a while already. | ||
Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On May 14 2012 21:49 Dandel Ion wrote: Okay, purely personal experience talking here: Swedes (and other Scandinavians) on holidays/trips are always really, really drunk. Alcohol is pretty expensive there, and they don't have a "drinking culture" like pretty much all of Middle Europe. Not that it's a good thing to have one, mind you. But when they get to another country where they see cheap alcohol thrown at them, they just take everything they can get. Next problem is that they can't hold their liquor for shit and are drunk as hell after 3 beers. I might sound like I'm stereotyping them unfairly, but I've met enough Scandinavians over the course of my life, from young Students to 30+ y.o.'s on business trips to say this. The only Scandinavins you will meet OUTSIDE of Scandinavia that are not absolutely plastered all the time are either families (because of their kids) or they've lived abroad for a while already. A lot of truth in your post, but your idea about holding liquor is completely incorrect. Scandinavian countries have a drinking culture, but it's very different from the rest of Europe: Over here, we drink seldomly, but when we drink, we drink a TON, which is why we are usually very strong when it comes to alcohol, we don't drink a glass of wine to dinner, we drink a bottle of vodka for the weekend instead. This is also why we drink a lot when on vacation in other countries: It's a party, the alcohol is cheap, so we drink a fuckload and, obviously, get really drunk. | ||
unkkz
Norway2196 Posts
On May 14 2012 21:39 Aphasie wrote: This is why Swedes can be assholes; They are perhaps the most arrogant among the Scandinavians (and thats saying alot), because of the high UN ranking, hockey, etc, (i could name a hundred reasons). They are mostly fit, metrosexual and out going and by some strech of the imagination this entitles them to be experts on any matter in society (i.e. politically correct). By spending every dime they make in the "public sphere" (albeit in the most parsimonious way possible) they think they assert themselves as successful. They can be particularly condescending to Norwegians because of the union etc. (and the "norwegians just have oil"-mantra) Or in this case; to Americans, of whom, most of them know nothing about. Lets face it - the leftist Scandinavians favorite way to pass the time is/was bashing on Bush/republicans/"the stupid Americans" Im not saying every Swede is like that, because thats not the case. However Ive met shitload of people that fit that description. Those who arent like that are usually awesome. It is what it is... And Norwegians are born with a shining silver spoon in their mouth, have no work morals and are in general extremely spoiled and sensitive when it comes to matters regarding political correctness. Like how norwegian employers bitch and moan that Norwegians cannot work for shit, are lazy and incompetent. Norwegians also have this twisted look of themselves thinking they are more iportant then they are, which is everytime they interview anyone not norwegian they have to ask the person "What do you think of Norway? Dont you love it? Isnt our country the best?" See i can make generalizations too? Your post says it does not generealize but uh, it does. It's like the "Im not racist but..." expression, when someone says that you know they are about to pop something racist. And Swedes are arrogant because of the high UN ranking? What? Norway is above Sweden in it afaik, Finland aswell. Because we are fit, metrosexual and outgoing we think we are experts on any matter of society? You base this on what? Again your post is completely pointless and has no real basis in anything, its just broad generalisation based on "your experience" which for all i know could be clubbing in Oslo and coming in contact with so called "party swedes". Yes those are mostly drunken idiots who spend their money on clothes and partying. But do you seriously think the norwegians that come to Svinesund and other border towns behave themselves any better? The company you keep reflects back on you, you say you've met tons of these persons. WHat does that then say about you if you are so often in contact with this element of society? Again, stupid post. User was warned for this post | ||
Tunkeg
Norway1235 Posts
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Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:04 unkkz wrote: And Norwegians are born with a shining silver spoon in their mouth, have no work morals and are in general extremely spoiled and sensitive when it comes to matters regarding political correctness. Like how norwegian employers bitch and moan that Norwegians cannot work for shit, are lazy and incompetent. Norwegians also have this twisted look of themselves thinking they are more iportant then they are, which is everytime they interview anyone not norwegian they have to ask the person "What do you think of Norway? Dont you love it? Isnt our country the best?" See i can make generalizations too? Your post says it does not generealize but uh, it does. It's like the "Im not racist but..." expression, when someone says that you know they are about to pop something racist. And Swedes are arrogant because of the high UN ranking? What? Norway is above Sweden in it afaik, Finland aswell. Because we are fit, metrosexual and outgoing we think we are experts on any matter of society? You base this on what? Again your post is completely pointless and has no real basis in anything, its just broad generalisation based on "your experience" which for all i know could be clubbing in Oslo and coming in contact with so called "party swedes". Yes those are mostly drunken idiots who spend their money on clothes and partying. But do you seriously think the norwegians that come to Svinesund and other border towns behave themselves any better? The company you keep reflects back on you, you say you've met tons of these persons. WHat does that then say about you if you are so often in contact with this element of society? Again, stupid post. Generalizations is the only way to break down the experiences you've accumulated over the years. What I said is how Swedes that fit a loosely defined psychological profile are generally those that act like assholes. And furthermore, I actually agree with what you say about Norway. I wouldnt deny it for anything in the world. As I said, it is what it is. I was criticizing Swedes, because the topic is about Swedes and how they appear to the rest of the world. I shouldnt have to berate Norwegians, just to berate Swedes. I can do that some other time. Fuck you and your righteous indignation. Sincerely, Aphasie User was warned for this post | ||
Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:32 Aphasie wrote:Generalizations is the only way to break down the experiences you've accumulated over the years. Sounds more like the excuse of a dumb person than a fact. Source? | ||
Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On May 14 2012 23:32 Aphasie wrote: Generalizations is the only way to break down the experiences you've accumulated over the years. What I said is how Swedes that fit a loosely defined psychological profile are generally those that act like assholes. And furthermore, I actually agree with what you say about Norway. I wouldnt deny it for anything in the world. As I said, it is what it is. I was criticizing Swedes, because the topic is about Swedes and how they appear to the rest of the world. I shouldnt have to berate Norwegians, just to berate Swedes. I can do that some other time. Fuck you and your righteous indignation. Sincerely, Aphasie You're just making up things to be an ass if you think "generalizations is(sic) the only way to break down experiences..." | ||
NuclearJudas
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
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Aphasie
Norway474 Posts
On May 15 2012 00:09 Alpino wrote: You're just making up things to be an ass if you think "generalizations is(sic) the only way to break down experiences..." To be precise I also said "... over the years". This implies a form of associative memory from which you extract meta-data which almost by definition is generalizations. Unless you have photographic memory, which very few people have, youre destined to make generalizations in describing a phenomena. You may have episodic memories (memories about a certain events you have experienced) but they are by definition singular. If you are to compare it (breaking it down) you are measuring it against other set data of which the abstraction of common denominators (or differences) are the result. Generalizations dont necessitate certainty or truth, they are neat ways of coding information that seems the most plausible/easiest to recollect. On May 14 2012 23:44 Tobberoth wrote: Sounds more like the excuse of a dumb person than a fact. Source? Unfortunately i dont have any sources at hand. I could dig in my psychology books when i move home again, but thats a couple of weeks from now. And im probably not going to anyway... | ||
Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On May 15 2012 01:35 Aphasie wrote: To be precise I also said "... over the years". This implies a form of associative memory from which you extract meta-data which almost by definition is generalizations. Unless you have photographic memory, which very few people have, youre destined to make generalizations in describing a phenomena. You may have episodic memories (memories about a certain events you have experienced) but they are by definition singular. If you are to compare it (breaking it down) you are measuring it against other set data of which the abstraction of common denominators (or differences) are the result. Generalizations dont necessitate certainty or truth, they are neat ways of coding information that seems the most plausible/easiest to recollect. Unfortunately i dont have any sources at hand. I could dig in my psychology books when i move home again, but thats a couple of weeks from now. And im probably not going to anyway... Since you're obviously well read enough to understand the concept, it baffles me how you can use it as a defense for your arguments. Any intelligent person who is making claims about a group would take their time in making sure their generalizations aren't incorrect. Let's say I want to describe Norwegians, and I happened to meet one Norwegian who was a real dick. Now unless I'm a troll, I would realize that this experience has colored my image of Norwegians, and I would make sure not to let it affect my arguments. The opposite of that would be saying all Norwegians are assholes, and going as far as DEFENDING that perspective by letting everyone know I'm generalizing from one bad experience I had. Instead of claiming swedes are condescending cunts because of your limited experience, it would make more sense to chime in that young people partying in different countries have a tendency to not be overly nice and polite, because that is something your experience actually supports. | ||
LeoLeo
Sweden456 Posts
But it depends on who you socialize with, some of us are actually nice, but try to avoid us when we are drinking. Because for some reason getting absolutely shitfaced-wasted is the norm for how you drink in Sweden, and no one is truly nice beyond superfical drunk I-luv-u-so-much-man banter. But yeah man just keeping on rolling and hopefully Sweden will treat you better. =) | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 14 2012 18:36 pubbanana wrote: (Everyone, please ignore this, it's personal) FrozenArbiter, I still remember to this day how I had that documentary in my possession (the one about Elky walking through the streets of Seoul) and I even had the same series featuring ChRh, and I promised to upload it to YouSendIt, but I had deleted it by accident. To this day, I feel bad about making you wait for something that I never delivered. And I'm glad you've realized your dream and even though I do not keep up with pro-gaming at all anymore, I remember the Korean interview you gave in which you said "ta-ning pon-teu" (turning point) in Korean and it made me so happy. You were the one who everyone quoted about Garimto when he said this about the Bamboo Rush "Even though you know it's coming, you can't stop it." And my favorite team, the HanBit Stars, you wrote about how [Oops]Reach only sleeps four hours a day, even though he was a Starleague champion. And by the way, FrozenArbiter, you are a really handsome guy. Awww man, so much love in this post =) It's good to see you posting again! @A whomever wrote this: "What do you think of Norway? Dont you love it? Isnt our country the best?" I think it's kinda funny how every smaller country does this... Funny, and super annoying when it is your own (obv swedish interviews have this wonderful feature as well and it makes me want to stab myself every time). | ||
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