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(Just so nobody says I'm violating rules and trying to promote my stream, there is an account named KTK99, but that is not my Twitch name)
I sit at 0 viewers all the time. No lag (30fps constant) and I'm paying a butt load for internet that can stream because China internet is god awful, and I am starting to think I should just downgrade my internet plan and stop streaming because I simply get no viewers.
I interact with the chat, my game looks decent (Medium shaders), I have lots of filtering and quality configurations to make 616p look as good as possible, my game doesn't lag, and I am very good.
I stream for hours on end and get 0 viewers. I have streamed for about 80 hours on my Twitch and have 19 total views...
It is really depressing.
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do u play on china server or wut?? the best way to get known is get a high rank in GM on NA, it gets u noticed very easily and you will get viewers.
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On November 28 2014 11:00 Xinzoe wrote: do u play on china server or wut?? the best way to get known is get a high rank in GM on NA, it gets u noticed very easily and you will get viewers. I am Top 8 GM on China server, and China has a skill cap just a bit below Korea.
The way China server goes is F2+A until you get about mid masters, then things suddenly go ape shit.
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United States7483 Posts
There are really only two ways to go about it. First is extremely good marketing. The streaming market is pretty saturated as it is (people beat you to it), so you'll have to be inventive and provide a unique and valuable experience, as well as advertise and market it well.
The second is place extremely highly or win a premier tournament.
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a lot of people are "really" good so unless your like a super relevant player in the scene no one is simply just going to show up and watch. So unless you get much better than really good you would have to have something unique to give people a reason to watch (personality, etc).
Think of it this way. Why should i watch you? What are you selling to me that i cant get from other players who are arguably more relevant and better.
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part of the problem may be the timezone you are in. you are playing when a lot of potential viewers in the us are sleeping, or in europe are working. whatever tournaments also won't help, as everyone will be watching those more often than not.
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whats the link to your stream?
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Here are a few factors: - Time zone - Game popularity - Webcam/Overlay/Title - Video/Audio quality - Enjoyability (Interaction, music/gameplay) - Marketing
Did you put those all into perspective and think you've done all that you could? If so, time to change some stuff.
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Well, if the threads you have created are any indication of the quality of your stream ... T_T
As others have said though, the market is pretty well saturated, and even players that win tournaments don't automatically get large viewership.
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How do you interact with the chat if you are always at literally zero viewers?
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Vancouver14381 Posts
I'm not sure what this has to do with SC2 so it's been moved to blogs.
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The twitch numbers right now has a total of is 5k SC2 veiwers, and half are watching a reboardcast of dreamhack. Their aren't many viewers for the game anymore and you're competing over a tiny audience. Have you considered streaming another game like hearthstone?
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United Kingdom10443 Posts
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If you're really good, you should definitely market that in the title. Simple: "Top 8 GM" + whatever else you want to say. Any of the following: 1v1, starcraft2, ladder session, streaming words in the title are completely useless in my opinion. When people look for streams that aren't popular, The grab needs to be quick simple and easy to read.
Stream quality for an unknown streamer really should be 1080p 60fps (720p/30fps I believe is considered BARE minimum). if you're going to get people to consider it over other streamers. I (use to) frequent random streams all the time and they could just not handle it. The stream would have lag spikes, black screens, loading issues, etc. Have a friend watch your stream and make sure that it's running smooth all the time, or watch your own vods. If you're really running 600p, that's probably your issue. To actually compete in the market, you really need much better than that.
cam is kind of really important these days as it just brings an element of "realness" to the stream. People will watch a stream without a cam, but if you don't have a cam you HAVE to be talking constantly. (trump was one of the few people back in the day to not have a cam and he got by with a great mic and a lot of interaction). Having a cam (and having good lighting please) makes the stream "brighter" and more inviting.
Music is very touchy but if you do decide to use it, it should be at low level like elevator music. Speaking of elevator music, you should be well aware of the fact that your music choice WILL dictate who stays and who leaves. Some types of trance (smooth) are ok, but anything "hard" like dubstep, kpop, hard rock, etc will lose you more viewers than it gains you.
Your main competition should always be "would I rather watch my own stream or a top level replay?" Your stream must offer something interesting to the potential viewer. When I see a stream with good quality, if theres no cam, no mic, and no music, it's just not worth it. You should also never compare yourself to top streamers when starting; they are allowed to break a lot of the rules (like music choice and commentary) because of their established fan base.
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if you don't have a gimmick+quirky personality to hook people (avilo, temp0, etc.) then tbh i think your only real option is to do a lot of commentary on your games where you explain your build, your thought processes, etc. just explain everything constantly and try to cater to an audience of people who are trying to improve their play. as others pointed out no one who already knows what they're doing is going to watch you play standard decent games without commentary at GM level because there's already going to be someone doing it better than you in the featured streamers list
you're never going to be able to follow in the footsteps of someone like destiny or winter because they have fanbases that predate the current state of the scene and the current demographic of viewers. it's no longer possible to build what they built with a similar style
hate to break it to you but as long as you're master+ your skill absolutely does not matter at all to how much you can succeed streaming
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http://blog.destiny.gg/my-journey-in-streaming/
Highly recommended that you read this.
From personal experience, I can empathize with how you feel starting from 0 viewers. Even after a lot of streaming and hitting that 1000 follower mark I only average 20 viewers or less (unless I beat some popular streamer on ladder). All I can say is that if you're streaming to be popular you're going to have a long arduous road ahead of you...
Gotta build up your viewer base one viewer at a time.
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