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Netherlands4511 Posts
Hey guys,
Figured this would be a good place to give a little update about what I've been doing and thinking lately. I've recently not streamed any brood war, and took a break from the game and I want to explain why. I'd also like to talk about some of the differences between StarCraft 1, and StarCraft 2.
Since being a SC2 progamer
Some of you might know, I had recently started playing brood war again with the release of SC:remastered. Before this, I stopped practicing StarCraft 2 and competing in tournaments in the summer of 2015, after making it to top16 in WCS, and doing decently in IEM cologne by qualifyting for the group stages, but then getting my ass whooped by innovation and lilbow. When Lotv came out and they nerfed injects, and made them stackable, it made me not enjoy playing as much because I had spend a great ammount of time and attention on perfecting my injecting method, including hotkeying every seperate hatchery to be able to track the progress of the inject bar. So it was a decent time to move on, I thought.
Since then I have kept a few jobs, nothing of note, and had decided this year I would get back into school to learn programming and web development. By now I've been doing this for a month or 2, and it's going fairly well so far, especially considering that I hadn't been in school for nearly 10 years, so far it's manageable for me. Anyway, back to this summer, they announced SC:Remastered and I figured what the heck, why not play the game that got all of this started for me back in the day.
Coming back to BW
I think I started playing again around june, or july. At first, it was extremely difficult. I was crazy with customizing hotkeys in StarCraft 2, and going back to BW without customizable hotkeys was so hard, because I had trained my brain and fingers to press keys differently than I was doing when I was playing BW, but the experience was very enjoyable.
I had so much fun just playing games on iccup, and then when I got invited to the launch event practicing actually became meaningfull and it gave me so much satisfaction. Since august I had been streaming quite regularly, up untill about 3 weeks ago, and my progress was steady. My muscle memory and the way my hand was moving around the keyboard really felt like coming home in a way, and just use the keyboard in a way that everything started to make sense again. You could say that somewhere along in the way in sc2 with all the changes I made to my play, I got a little lost. As I played more and more, the way my hands were moving around the keyboard just started to feel better and better. Even my typing got better again, and I just felt more comfortable overall. My mmr would bounce around between 2600-2800 and towards the end I was pretty much able to beat anyone outside of korea (but also lose to quite a few people ).
If anything, dedicating all of my free time (4-5 hours daily) to StarCraft, made me hungry. I felt hungry to improve, compete, strive to be better each day. All of those things are so addictive for me, its like my brain just goes crazy and I wake up and every inch of me being just wants to be better at the game. Difficult to think about anything else. But at the same time, a lot of things made playing difficult. I started to have lag with korean players right around the time I would be home from school which was Korean peak hours (3-7 pm CET). So everytime I would start practicing I would jump in and out of unplayable games for a very long time. Then I also had some experiences in tournaments playing against Dandy (Terran from peru). Games we were playing were high latency on tr8, making it so difficult to control mutalisks. While this player might have been better than me at the time, it made me realise the online competitive environment simply wasn't that good for me. I could practice my ass off, but at best I would have to play ZvZ vs some very capable zergs (eonzerg, trutacz, sziky, notforyou), which would most of the time be 50-50 or very close to it.. And then playing vs terrans with high latency in tournaments, it would make it difficult for me to really enjoy competiting and playing in these tournaments. Combined with the fact that ladder had become unplayable for me unless I played after 8 pm, it was hard to keep enjoying brood war, even though the game itself remains really great.
Around this time also it was announced that Draco, Morrow would be invited to the italian esports open. I was a little bit dissapointed to not be invited to this tournament, since I won the remastered launch event, have a big history in the game, and, was streaming my practice almost everyday and showing steady improvement and ability to compete with the best Europeans from an early stage of picking up the game again. Recently Zotac Cup NA also announced that they would invite Draco from the Europe region to play in their tournament.
Now - I am not the only person who is unable to play tournaments. It's a sad situation where guys who have been practicing the game for years like eonzerg, bonyth, trutacz, sziky, dewalt, etc. are for the most part not rewarded for being the strongest players, as well as having dedicated years to becoming better. So really I don't want to complain too much about that. There are people who are more deserving to play in offline tournaments than me anyway. The sad reality is that these 2 events are the only big ones, that have been announced. All of these factors combined made me take a break from the game.
With the announcement of SC2 becoming free to play, and seeming lack of interest from any of the established circuits such as dreamhack, iem, mlg, etc. as well as Blizzard making zero announcements for remastered tournaments outside of Korea, at this moment in time it feels unlikely that there will be any big BW events of note in 2018 for me to play in. (But hopefully I will be wrong on this).
StarCraft 2 vs BW
However, playing BW really sparked the competitive fire in me once again. So recently I have also started to play a little bit of StarCraft 2 again. Especially watching blizzcon made me feel hyped for the game. I'll be honest, I don't enjoy it as much as I enjoy BW. I strongly feel like there is much less deliberate unit control, micro, and just overall gameplay elements that attribute to 'fun' are found much more in BW than in SC2.
I've heard all these people say that, StarCraft 2 is a strategic game, and BW is a mechanical game. I strongly disagree. I feel StarCraft 2 might be a strategic game, but very little of that strategizing happens while you are actually inside the game. Games are so fast paced, and being on top of scouting everything is nearly impossible that you have to decide on most strategies before the game. You might change your path slightly if you get different tells, but most of your responses are pre-programmed and you try to execute as good as possible. Of course there is strategic variance, you play differently vs different unit compositions, but it's not the same kind of strategy I've experienced in brood war.
In brood war, I feel like players have oceans of time. Once both players have their mechanics on an adequate level, there is so much time to dedicate to thinking about the game, where to place your units, how to setup engagements, which bases to take and which key locations to defend. Alongside the high ground mechanic, defensive positions are much stronger in brood war and this gives the game a much more strategic feeling to me. In sc2, I feel like I'm racing with tunnel vision to a timing or a unit comp based timing in the game where my chances are highest to win (differentiating slightly depending on what opponent is doing) - but in brood war my eyes are wide open trying to observe and take everything in, then pondering about how to proceed and best trap my enemy into the claws of my lurkers, dark swarm, plague, and 100 zerglings which are impossible to control.
StarCraft 2 does still have lots of the elements that make rts 'fun.' Unit movement is very important in the game, counter attacks, perfect injecting + overwhelming opponents is very enjoyable, and overall playing the game ignites the same kind of competitive fire, wanting to improve, making progress, and wanting to compete. If I could somehow learn to enjoy the useage of spellcasters, I might even say I 'love' that game as well. Of course everything surrounding SC2 right now, the battle.net interface, automated tournaments, ladder systems, updated map pools, constant balance/design patches, it's all really good right now. Perhaps with constant improvements it really can come to a place where it can feel as fun to play as BW for me, or at least close to it. Also some of the guys playing at blizzcon and in GSL are so skilled and set themselves apart so much from other competitors, that you have to respect their ability. It's something worth trying to immitate, or try and learn to do yourself.
Competing
So I've had to do some thinking about what I want to do. I could keep playing BW, not play anything at all and dedicate all my time to school, or try playing some SC2 again. Because StarCraft 2 actually has tournaments announced for 2018 (and lots of em!), I think that if I will continue dedicating my free-time to gaming while going to school I will be playing and streaming StarCraft 2. The reality is that which game I find more fun, is less important to me than the possiblity to compete. Because the competitor in me needs that feeling of practice being meaningfull. All of my life I have wanted to compete with people, prove myself, improve. The oppurtunities to compete makes a world of difference for me. To all the people that enjoyed my stream and are wondering what happend, this is pretty much it. I have been torn about what game to focus on and what to do in the future. Since I have not played StarCraft 2 competitively in over 2 years, undoubtfully I am going to be terrible for a while. But most likely my stream will be back at some point, if anything for some casual fun. BW has taught me, that despite being old af, I can still pick up games and learn relatively quickly.
Thank you for reading, guys!
- retjah
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Best of luck Ret, it will be exciting to see you play sc2 again!
Hopefully sc2 continues to improve and will be just as fun as BW for you at some point.
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Hope to see you competing in WCS in 2018 and good luck. I think the new balance patch will help you enjoy sc2 more as they are trying to reduce the reliance on mass spell casters but I guess infestors are still pretty good.
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Washington, D.C9931 Posts
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Great blog and insight. Thanks.
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Best of luck, I loved your stream
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Great to hear you might compete again in SC2! It took you relatively little time in BW to improve to the point where you could take games of players like Rain, so hopefully you can get back in shape quickly in SC2 as well.
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United Kingdom12010 Posts
It was an honour having you play in one of my Clash for Char tournaments Ret. Hopefully you enjoy whatever you go on to do, but the Broodwar scene will miss you!
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I hope you come back to SC2. Funnily enough I started playing SC2 again a week or so before Blizzcon. It's in a much better state than 2015 (which is when I quit as well). Hope to see you go at it.
Good luck with whatever decision you go with!
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Would be great to have you competing next year.
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Great read! I sure hope that you come back to sc2 again, you've always been one of my favorite players to watch. And we need more 90-drone zergs out there )))
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GL with any path you choose.
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United States32487 Posts
gl, hf
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I'd prefer you playing BW, but I get the explanation. Hopefully Blizzard will fix the lag and there will be BW events (although I guess this is just me dreaming) and then everybody will be playing BW, my favourite game Thanks for showing us cool games Ret and GL with everything.
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playing sc2 seriously as a macro player is just bad the game is good if you don't take it seriously, i can't imagine how rough life would be if you were trying to succeed as a pro in that game though.
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On November 09 2017 09:02 paxconsciente wrote: playing sc2 seriously as a macro player is just bad the game is good if you don't take it seriously, i can't imagine how rough life would be if you were trying to succeed as a pro in that game though. Not at all. Its just incredible cool to say shit like that, isnt it?
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this makes me very happy jos i still remember meeting you in Columbus for MLG and ive had great respect for you long before that.
goodluck! i'll see you there man:D
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papa nyoken is gonna be all alone
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I had fun reading that man. I hope things can keep going for you and BW. Shame we're not getting more offline tourneys outside of Korea at the moment.
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Thanks for this post, Ret. I totally understand where you're coming from, as the competition is what drives me as well. I'm very sad to see you going back to SC2, because I loved watching you play BW. But, you have good reasons for the return and I'll certainly root for you no matter what!
Watching you at the launch event was a big part of what sparked my desire to really get back into BW and play a ton. Exactly as you described, I wake up every morning at 3AM before I work (at 7AM) So that I can play against Koreans to practice. Thank you for having that drive and inspiring others to have it as well!
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From a tournament perspective inviting well-known players with large social media / twitch presence is much safer than having a qualifier where less known players can win. But, I don't get why you didn't get any invites Ret, you've got like 30k twitter followers, clearly have built it up for a long time and have name recognition from both BW and SC2.
Hopefully you'll still play some for fun. Personally I really only enjoyed playing BW or SC2 when I can also compete in tournaments. Playing while rusty isn't fun, but neither is grinding out games with no meaningful competitions to showcase your efforts.
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Nice to hear you still have that competitive spark, I will watch for you in SC2 and if you can't compete with the Koreans there is always casting, which you are quite good at
This is also some quality feedback for Blizzard in both sc2 and sc1.
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Katowice25012 Posts
I miss you ret
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Watching you playing Broodwar is awesome. It´s sad that you can´t compete in BW as you wish. But as a StarCraft 2 Zerg player myself, I have to say, that I am hyped seen you play/stream sc2 again.
Best of luck mate
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That's the sad reality. Still, I hope more tournaments in BW will make you come back to it. Fingers crossed. GG!
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Totally agree on the SC2/BW analysis.
As a competitor at heart I can understand your decision, and I see a lot of resemblance to myself when I read the reasoning in your post.
I will personally stick to BW because I can't even find the time to justify competing in events professionally and I've vowed that that time of my life is over. BW suits me more as a hobby than SC2 because I just find BW a lot more fun than SC2. But I would have probably made a similar decision if I was in your shoes. Because in the end, competition and being able to compete is a big part of what makes something fun.
I wish you all the best Ret, I always respected you as a person and professional gamer and I strongly feel that you still have some untapped potential to reach into.
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there's only one alternative for a player like you to compete in the fashion you're looking for, Jos. Same one you already employed a decade. Go to Korea and try to qualify for a Starleague, there's not much else. And thats not realistic, so your choice makes a lot of sense to me, tho it's also sad to see you leave us so soon again.
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United States2095 Posts
I've found that if I play something just because it has more tournaments or competitions involved, then I burn out quicker. It seems at least for me that I need to really enjoy something for itself, if I want to compete in it, at the higher levels. Regardless of that, I hope that your choice, whatever it is, works out well! Ret fighting!!!
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I feel pretty much exactly the same way. There's nothing to work hard for in BW except your own satisfaction, but even that is really frustrating because of how many ladder games are on bad maps and a bad connection. If I play SC2 I can accept 150-200ms latency and play on KR or EU as much as I want, great practice at any time. And if I practice enough to be competitive, there's a tournament to play within a few months guaranteed. But for BW, the practice conditions are poor and the competitive scene is a total unknown.
Also with the new SC2 patch, there will definitely be a lot of strategies coming and going throughout 2018. BW strategy is much more static. The efficient way to improve is to copy Koreans and grind games to improve mechanics. There are no big strategy revelations to be had, rather you must map out every little thing that can happen with massive experience from grinding games. So I think playing SC2 will be more interesting. For a music analogy, playing SC2 is writing your own music to perform while playing BW is training hard to perform difficult classical music. The latter can be a very satisfying task to set yourself to and it's extremely enjoyable when you begin to master things, but it is limited in a way.
GL!
+ Show Spoiler +For the sticklers, I will admit that BW is still evolving, so it is possible to write your own music, so to speak. But it is happening very slowly, and is only done by the very best players. The chance of someone like ret or me actually innovating something in BW is essentially zero. But in SC2 there'll be lots of tactics and timings and compositions to figure out, accessible to lots of players.
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On November 09 2017 01:49 Liquid`Ret wrote:Hey guys, Figured this would be a good place to give a little update about what I've been doing and thinking lately. I've recently not streamed any brood war, and took a break from the game and I want to explain why. I'd also like to talk about some of the differences between StarCraft 1, and StarCraft 2. Since being a SC2 progamerSome of you might know, I had recently started playing brood war again with the release of SC:remastered. Before this, I stopped practicing StarCraft 2 and competing in tournaments in the summer of 2015, after making it to top16 in WCS, and doing decently in IEM cologne by qualifyting for the group stages, but then getting my ass whooped by innovation and lilbow. When Lotv came out and they nerfed injects, and made them stackable, it made me not enjoy playing as much because I had spend a great ammount of time and attention on perfecting my injecting method, including hotkeying every seperate hatchery to be able to track the progress of the inject bar. So it was a decent time to move on, I thought. Since then I have kept a few jobs, nothing of note, and had decided this year I would get back into school to learn programming and web development. By now I've been doing this for a month or 2, and it's going fairly well so far, especially considering that I hadn't been in school for nearly 10 years, so far it's manageable for me. Anyway, back to this summer, they announced SC:Remastered and I figured what the heck, why not play the game that got all of this started for me back in the day. Coming back to BWI remember 7 years ago i randomly messaged you and you gave me a free one game lesson because at the time i didnt m I think I started playing again around june, or july. At first, it was extremely difficult. I was crazy with customizing hotkeys in StarCraft 2, and going back to BW without customizable hotkeys was so hard, because I had trained my brain and fingers to press keys differently than I was doing when I was playing BW, but the experience was very enjoyable. I had so much fun just playing games on iccup, and then when I got invited to the launch event practicing actually became meaningfull and it gave me so much satisfaction. Since august I had been streaming quite regularly, up untill about 3 weeks ago, and my progress was steady. My muscle memory and the way my hand was moving around the keyboard really felt like coming home in a way, and just use the keyboard in a way that everything started to make sense again. You could say that somewhere along in the way in sc2 with all the changes I made to my play, I got a little lost. As I played more and more, the way my hands were moving around the keyboard just started to feel better and better. Even my typing got better again, and I just felt more comfortable overall. My mmr would bounce around between 2600-2800 and towards the end I was pretty much able to beat anyone outside of korea (but also lose to quite a few people ). If anything, dedicating all of my free time (4-5 hours daily) to StarCraft, made me hungry. I felt hungry to improve, compete, strive to be better each day. All of those things are so addictive for me, its like my brain just goes crazy and I wake up and every inch of me being just wants to be better at the game. Difficult to think about anything else. But at the same time, a lot of things made playing difficult. I started to have lag with korean players right around the time I would be home from school which was Korean peak hours (3-7 pm CET). So everytime I would start practicing I would jump in and out of unplayable games for a very long time. Then I also had some experiences in tournaments playing against Dandy (Terran from peru). Games we were playing were high latency on tr8, making it so difficult to control mutalisks. While this player might have been better than me at the time, it made me realise the online competitive environment simply wasn't that good for me. I could practice my ass off, but at best I would have to play ZvZ vs some very capable zergs (eonzerg, trutacz, sziky, notforyou), which would most of the time be 50-50 or very close to it.. And then playing vs terrans with high latency in tournaments, it would make it difficult for me to really enjoy competiting and playing in these tournaments. Combined with the fact that ladder had become unplayable for me unless I played after 8 pm, it was hard to keep enjoying brood war, even though the game itself remains really great. Around this time also it was announced that Draco, Morrow would be invited to the italian esports open. I was a little bit dissapointed to not be invited to this tournament, since I won the remastered launch event, have a big history in the game, and, was streaming my practice almost everyday and showing steady improvement and ability to compete with the best Europeans from an early stage of picking up the game again. Recently Zotac Cup NA also announced that they would invite Draco from the Europe region to play in their tournament. Now - I am not the only person who is unable to play tournaments. It's a sad situation where guys who have been practicing the game for years like eonzerg, bonyth, trutacz, sziky, dewalt, etc. are for the most part not rewarded for being the strongest players, as well as having dedicated years to becoming better. So really I don't want to complain too much about that. There are people who are more deserving to play in offline tournaments than me anyway. The sad reality is that these 2 events are the only big ones, that have been announced. All of these factors combined made me take a break from the game. With the announcement of SC2 becoming free to play, and seeming lack of interest from any of the established circuits such as dreamhack, iem, mlg, etc. as well as Blizzard making zero announcements for remastered tournaments outside of Korea, at this moment in time it feels unlikely that there will be any big BW events of note in 2018 for me to play in. (But hopefully I will be wrong on this). StarCraft 2 vs BWHowever, playing BW really sparked the competitive fire in me once again. So recently I have also started to play a little bit of StarCraft 2 again. Especially watching blizzcon made me feel hyped for the game. I'll be honest, I don't enjoy it as much as I enjoy BW. I strongly feel like there is much less deliberate unit control, micro, and just overall gameplay elements that attribute to 'fun' are found much more in BW than in SC2. I've heard all these people say that, StarCraft 2 is a strategic game, and BW is a mechanical game. I strongly disagree. I feel StarCraft 2 might be a strategic game, but very little of that strategizing happens while you are actually inside the game. Games are so fast paced, and being on top of scouting everything is nearly impossible that you have to decide on most strategies before the game. You might change your path slightly if you get different tells, but most of your responses are pre-programmed and you try to execute as good as possible. Of course there is strategic variance, you play differently vs different unit compositions, but it's not the same kind of strategy I've experienced in brood war. In brood war, I feel like players have oceans of time. Once both players have their mechanics on an adequate level, there is so much time to dedicate to thinking about the game, where to place your units, how to setup engagements, which bases to take and which key locations to defend. Alongside the high ground mechanic, defensive positions are much stronger in brood war and this gives the game a much more strategic feeling to me. In sc2, I feel like I'm racing with tunnel vision to a timing or a unit comp based timing in the game where my chances are highest to win (differentiating slightly depending on what opponent is doing) - but in brood war my eyes are wide open trying to observe and take everything in, then pondering about how to proceed and best trap my enemy into the claws of my lurkers, dark swarm, plague, and 100 zerglings which are impossible to control. StarCraft 2 does still have lots of the elements that make rts 'fun.' Unit movement is very important in the game, counter attacks, perfect injecting + overwhelming opponents is very enjoyable, and overall playing the game ignites the same kind of competitive fire, wanting to improve, making progress, and wanting to compete. If I could somehow learn to enjoy the useage of spellcasters, I might even say I 'love' that game as well. Of course everything surrounding SC2 right now, the battle.net interface, automated tournaments, ladder systems, updated map pools, constant balance/design patches, it's all really good right now. Perhaps with constant improvements it really can come to a place where it can feel as fun to play as BW for me, or at least close to it. Also some of the guys playing at blizzcon and in GSL are so skilled and set themselves apart so much from other competitors, that you have to respect their ability. It's something worth trying to immitate, or try and learn to do yourself. CompetingSo I've had to do some thinking about what I want to do. I could keep playing BW, not play anything at all and dedicate all my time to school, or try playing some SC2 again. Because StarCraft 2 actually has tournaments announced for 2018 (and lots of em!), I think that if I will continue dedicating my free-time to gaming while going to school I will be playing and streaming StarCraft 2. The reality is that which game I find more fun, is less important to me than the possiblity to compete. Because the competitor in me needs that feeling of practice being meaningfull. All of my life I have wanted to compete with people, prove myself, improve. The oppurtunities to compete makes a world of difference for me. To all the people that enjoyed my stream and are wondering what happend, this is pretty much it. I have been torn about what game to focus on and what to do in the future. Since I have not played StarCraft 2 competitively in over 2 years, undoubtfully I am going to be terrible for a while. But most likely my stream will be back at some point, if anything for some casual fun. BW has taught me, that despite being old af, I can still pick up games and learn relatively quickly. Thank you for reading, guys! - retjah i remember back in 2010 when you gave me a free lesson when i randomly messaged you. you wouldn't let me pay you because i worked at subway at the time and you didn't want to take my money. Always remembered that really nice and respectful of 18 year old me! wish you the best :D you have no idea how happy i am that you are coming back i really missed watching you!
<3 great news!!!!
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Norway28261 Posts
Best of luck, hope to see you do well in sc2!
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Good luck in the future with whatever you choose to do, Ret! I was also sad to see others invited to the Italian Esports Event over you, specifically Morrow. Nothing against the guy, but your peak skill was higher, you accomplished more in BW than him, etc etc. I could go on and on. I guess we'll all be waiting for your return to Brood War once again
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Would be nice if BW was still a viable pro-game. Good luck ret I will miss your BW streaming.
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Netherlands4490 Posts
It sucks to see you leave BW again, but totally understandable why.
Now I find myself yet again without a country man to cheer for in BW. That said... Yea, it's really a shame FBH didn't even get to chance to spread ur cheeks.
I was a bit surprised you didn't mention your current education along side BW in your last sentence. I wish you give that priority if only for the benefit of having a diploma. In our current society education > skills for 99% of the jobs out there.
You will be missed but never forgotten. Good luck!
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Very interesting read! These days I generally only watch Brood War streams & tournaments rather than SC2, so personally I will be quite sad to see you not playing much BW anymore. Nonetheless, if you do decide to compete in SC2 I wish you the best of luck and I will definitely check out some of your matches
You have many fans in this community (myself included) who will be really excited to watch you compete regardless of what game you're playing. One way or another I hope 2018 will be the year of Ret ^_^
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It's too bad none of the big non-korean outlets have given SC:R a try (dreamhack etc), most tournaments have just been online thus far.
really had hope after the remastered launch event we'd see some more major offline SC:R events pop up, but seems like no one has really given it a chance yet.
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Would love to see you compete again, be that in BW or Sc2.
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Man so sad I found this. Was hoping you were just busy with stuff and wasn't streaming for that reason. Now I am just sad! Hope you will come back to remastered real soon. Always super entertaining to watch. Best of luck anyways!
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Judging by your conclusions about StarCraft and StarCraft 2, I guess this is how it's going to be:
SC2 - non-Korean scene SC: R - Koreans and people who have nostalgia
Still, I don't see both being able to compete with CS: GO, LoL, DotA and so on.
Also, which programming languages are you picking up? If you need some help, feel free to message me. I'm a software engineer and I can try to help.
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On November 12 2017 02:19 LuckyFool wrote: It's too bad none of the big non-korean outlets have given SC:R a try (dreamhack etc), most tournaments have just been online thus far.
really had hope after the remastered launch event we'd see some more major offline SC:R events pop up, but seems like no one has really given it a chance yet. Unfortunately, I don't think it shows a lot of promise to anyone. Low twitch views and popularity, very risky, especially in an era where most of the games at Dreamhack/MLG/ESL have some partnership with the publishers.
I don't think it's like a hopeless dreary thing, I think the Smash community has shown that grass roots can still put on some fucking awesome tournaments.
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think about your future bro. it's better - and more enjoyable, in the long run - to be very good at 1 thing than to struggle with 3 (or in my case being shit at 10)
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Retjaaaah !! <3 Hold strong mate, you got this, keep feeding that competitive hunger and you will reach far !
5/5 love ret
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Bisutopia19033 Posts
Great blog. I feel like it's unfortunate if BW loses you as a gamer in the competitive scene because we need established personalities to stream and generate attention. We need guys like you, Draco, morrow etc. to stay committed long enough to give organizers time to say to sponsors "See who is playing and what views they are getting? This is worth investing in." No matter what I will appreciate whatever you chose and enjoy both SC1 and SC2 also for most of the different reasons you listed. Just know if you do choose BW, dedicated guys like me (well when I return in 2018) are working their butts off to make things happen.
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On November 15 2017 05:01 BisuDagger wrote: Great blog. I feel like it's unfortunate if BW loses you as a gamer in the competitive scene because we need established personalities to stream and generate attention. We need guys like you, Draco, morrow etc. to stay committed long enough to give organizers time to say to sponsors "See who is playing and what views they are getting? This is worth investing in." No matter what I will appreciate whatever you chose and enjoy both SC1 and SC2 also for most of the different reasons you listed. Just know if you do choose BW, dedicated guys like me (well when I return in 2018) are working their butts off to make things happen. I think this is the key. One of my favorite streams of the last year was the SC: Remastered launch stream. I loved all the cute stories from the good ol' days as well as the banter as players competed vs. eachother. It felt very personal and special, and I think we need find a way to make more of those stories. Something like that and HSC is I think what the community will need to get invested with the players and the community as a whole.
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Good luck with whatever you choose to pursue, ret! I'll miss watching you play BW. You're a great guy and a great player.
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Going back to SC2 is like going back to an abusive ex-boyfriend that beats you and accuses you of cheating. I think you're making a colossal mistake, and I hope you see the light and snap out of this bout of madness before you're sucked down into a game that was named "Legacy of The Void" for good reason.
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Of course I agree with nina, but only when she talks about StarCraft.
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On November 13 2017 05:55 sc-darkness wrote:Judging by your conclusions about StarCraft and StarCraft 2, I guess this is how it's going to be: SC2 - non-Korean scene SC: R - Koreans and people who have nostalgia Still, I don't see both being able to compete with CS: GO, LoL, DotA and so on. Also, which programming languages are you picking up? If you need some help, feel free to message me. I'm a software engineer and I can try to help.
forget about sc competing with those other games, it won't, it's not as fun, it's much more punishing and takes more time to learn. I've been playing for 10 years and still suck, so have countless others.
that isn't to say it's going to die off and that's not to say it's going to never have big tournaments again worth playing in, it will, the goal is no longer to outgun those other games, it's just to be a great RTS, which clearly it has been doing well.
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We want Ret for Brood War!!
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It is sad to see blizzard failing the BW netcode.I had huge hopes with the game also but it is basically unplayable due to lag in half of my games even though I have no problems with SC2. Also Italian BW tournament was a failure aswell.It is stupid not to invite the foreigner with the highest ELO but inviting other unknown players.Inviting a korean pro gamer was a huge mistake too.If you care about koreans you can go watch ASL for that.
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