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On June 13 2009 11:05 IceCube wrote: My advice to you is to CHEESE! Cheese your way thru the D- rank and possibly D and while your doing that just learn other strats/bos (practice with your friend, melee) and once your secured safe D rank start experimenting with those strats you've learned while you were cheesing
Cheese is fail...so many D-/D/D+ players cheese it's just ridiculous.. go like 2 gate opener into reavers
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I cant watch the replays right now but try focusing on a more solid build... dont incorporate reavers into your build until you're solid with macro/micro.
Just my suggestion.
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Miniroman: no exaggeration at all if the Koreans come online when you play.
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im not a C, but i think you are being swarmed because the lack of gateways I agree with Empyrean
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On June 13 2009 11:20 HuskyTheHusky wrote: I cant watch the replays right now but try focusing on a more solid build... dont incorporate reavers into your build until you're solid with macro/micro.
Just my suggestion.
Yeah, basically what I said too. Keep it really basic and just focus on getting many units out and keep pumping probes/army constantly, not forgeting pylons etc. You may think you're ok with it, but if you focus on just that, you'll be surprised it's not as easy as it sounds.
Slowly add more variance to your play. D- means you have to get those very basic things down first, then start worrying about everything else. Learn to micro your army first, then worry about shuttles and reavers.
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On June 13 2009 11:05 IceCube wrote: My advice to you is to CHEESE! Cheese your way thru the D- rank and possibly D and while your doing that just learn other strats/bos (practice with your friend, melee) and once your secured safe D rank start experimenting with those strats you've learned while you were cheesing
Or you could /clearstats YES to get back 1000(D).
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On June 13 2009 11:40 nbtnbt5 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2009 11:05 IceCube wrote: My advice to you is to CHEESE! Cheese your way thru the D- rank and possibly D and while your doing that just learn other strats/bos (practice with your friend, melee) and once your secured safe D rank start experimenting with those strats you've learned while you were cheesing Or you could /clearstats YES to get back 1000(D). Clearing stats to gain points... That's something I can safely say I've never experienced. I've heard horror stories from the "Ladder D-" channel on iccup too. I've tried to go there even when your D ranked it doesn't allow you...
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I tend to think that being aggressive and not caring too much about builds will get you at least to D+, if you can move your wrists with any decent speed/accuracy. Try reducing your mouse sensitivity - then you can get more accurate movements in.
Remember, micro isn't in spamming, micro is in positioning - which means accuracy first, speed and everything else - 2nd.
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Loosing on iCCup sucks, losing on B.Net REALLY fucking sucks.
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a good sexy build order i like doing is 3 gate robo. its macro heavy for the goons, u get an expo a whole minute earlier than the 4 gate variation, u can spot incoming reavers, and u'll be prepared for a dt rush (unless they cheesed but u'll determine that with scouting). all in all, its a pretty nice BO. here's the link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88846
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Well the good news is you can probably start dominating people at the D- rank to get back up to D. I agree with what other people say about PvP, at the D level you really should just go 2 Gate goon and then into a higher tech.
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I win 15 straight then lose 15 straight. So weird.
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2gate goon into reavers then expo is the way to go.
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A pvp problem I had was not getting upgrades. Trust me, that 1+ attack will help so much its unbelievable.
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On June 13 2009 13:10 da_head wrote:a good sexy build order i like doing is 3 gate robo. its macro heavy for the goons, u get an expo a whole minute earlier than the 4 gate variation, u can spot incoming reavers, and u'll be prepared for a dt rush (unless they cheesed but u'll determine that with scouting). all in all, its a pretty nice BO. here's the link: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88846
this. Ive done this so much I swear to god I can get to probably C just doing this every single pvp.
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On June 13 2009 10:03 Flow.of.soul wrote:
I've been focusing on PvP and I expand but then I usually get contained or stormed to death. I've been going 1 gate to reavers and I expand after I get a reaver but it seems like my opponent always has more goons then me or better goon positioning. I defend from the first attack but then I just get run over. Someone knowledgeable should go write in Liquipedia about positioning.
lol wtf don't go 1 gate reaver AND THEN EXPAND seriously of course they have more goons than you. try playing safer with 2 gate reaver builds and if you expand be very careful about it. I personally play pvp hardly expanding at all. I just power units off 1 base and wait for them to expand well of course unless im almost mined out or something. deception is awesome in pvp, try to keep your ramped walled with 1 probe+1 zealot, 100% they will go quick obs which will buy you time to get your expo or reavers going.
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This is how i play PvP ... After first pylon i scout and see if the opponent is going 2gate or 1gate+gas, if he is going 2 gates i go too, if not i just continue climbing my tech tree and thats usually: gate gas cyber gate robo observer reaver and the push and while pushing i also expand
you just need to practice ... when i was D- (im D now ) the best suggestion i got was that to just copy what my opponent is doing, that helped me a great deal ... hf
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Hold your head up high. I'm huge respect for people who lose a lot and still continue to play. I'm C- now 50-56 playing only koreans and I'm in fucking rage-_-;
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I feel ya, i'm 1-4 today, feels awful
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lol and it appears you were playing on the non-korean hours too o.o
just keep at it!
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It ok dude, relax, and have fun, and I feel yah..
I lost to a D- zerg today, despite being C- last season ~_~
We all have shitty days. but you know what "practice makes perfect"
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