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| JMave Singapore. January 05 2010 17:49. Posts 1754 | Profile Blog # |
Due to the competitive nature of Starcraft, most people only play KeSPA maps. There are hardly or no leagues out there that incorporate foreignerr maps into their map pool and so they are mostly left out and long forgotten.
But today, I want to showcase some of my favourite maps here from Broodwarmaps.net. There are many maps in here that I feel are really nice and IMO, I think the deco on foreigner maps is much nicer and more appealing that KeSPA maps. Just take note that these are just my own opinions and I can noob up sometimes so just take it easy.
First we have:
(2) Anything But This
+ Show Spoiler +This map is really interesting. It has 2 entrances to your main base, one nearer to your main cc and another that is much further away. I can't really tell which is the natural of your base but I am going to assume its the one at the ramp furthest away from your main.
The potential issue I see with this is how extremely difficult FE would be on this map and how 3 hatch speedlings would be really good too.
But apart from that, i like the spacing, I like the deco and overall, I would rate this a 6/10 for its creative concept.
(2) Venom
+ Show Spoiler +On a first glance, this map would bring resemblence Destination but howeever, it is almost nothing like it.
The bridges are much wider in this map and the east and west bases are now much more easily accessible from both sides, making it harder to take. Hence, these bases do not bear as much significance as Destination's did.
The bases and terrain that are beside the main were done extremely well. I really like the concept here where the base with the gas is quite vulnerable due to the wide main entrance and a little back door to that base. Excellent. I rate this one an 8/10
(3) Hamlet
+ Show Spoiler +This map has really nice appeal to me. The deco done here is absolutely amazing. If you had taken a hand into map making, you'd understand how tough is it to make deco like that. The jungle terrain that's edited in the ruins terrain to look much smaller requires manual work to fit in the right pieces so that your terrain will look natural. This is really time consuming!
Apart from looks, the concept is nice. I like how this is almost like God's Garden with the exception that your third base, though easily accessible, has its mineral line really vulnerable to attack from the otuside and your forces can't really get there to deal with the harass.
Another thing that I feel a little odd is the symmetry and how tight the bases are. If say you spawn on the 4 o'clock and your opponent spawns on the 11 o'clock you will have a much easier time getting to your opponent's base rather than say if he had spawned in the 7 o'clock because you don't have to cross any bridge to get to his base.
The bridges also make this map really tight, meaning that terrans will have such a good time here because flanks are really hard to do here. But inaccessible also means a good play for carriers and arbiter so maybe that balances things out. 7/10 to me.
(2) Oro Lala 1.2
+ Show Spoiler +This map is like a vertical Ride of the Valkyries with that high temple terrain extended all the way across the map. The exception is the nearby bases in that area and leave for quite good games to watch as the bases are easily taken and destroyed. However, defending the area from the widest ramp to the area outside of your natural can yield you an easy 2 bases.
The deco is decent but I feel that it is a little lackluster. 6/10
Well, hope you enjoyed some of these maps and definately give that mapping site a visit every now and then to appreciate the many great and unknown maps that others have made. Good day.
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| thopol Japan. January 05 2010 17:59. Posts 4495 | Profile Blog # |
Sick blog post. I dig map recommendations because, like you said most people do, I just follow the Kespa maps. This means two things. 1) I don't have anything really to offer here. I wish I knew of more foreigner maps that I could show off to everyone. 2) I really hope that other folks post some more sick maps here. I want to expand my collection and try out some sweet new shit in the causal games that dominate my StarCraft play time.
EDIT: Hamlet looks particularly sweet. In general, I'm not good enough to care about balance if it's not really horrendous.Last edit: 2010-01-05 18:14:25 |
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 alffla Hong Kong. January 05 2010 18:03. Posts 20258 | Profile Blog # |
i feel bad for foreign map makers cuz really, who actually uses their maps to play on lol ;\
and some of them look pretty awesome too. |
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| Terranist United States. January 05 2010 18:09. Posts 2286 | Profile Blog # |
| oro lala looks pretty fun to play. the other 2 look like they would have some pretty severe balance issues though. |
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| inReacH Sweden. January 05 2010 18:29. Posts 1603 | Profile Blog # |
| Wow hamlet is just sick looking |
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| Zoler Sweden. January 05 2010 18:31. Posts 5922 | Profile Blog # |
| The last one oro lala looks sick! |
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| skronch United States. January 05 2010 19:00. Posts 2717 | Profile Blog # |
| am i missing something or is hamlet an island map? (until you mine out your natural) |
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| FastEddieV United States. January 05 2010 19:45. Posts 608 | Profile Blog # |
There are ramps that lead out of the natural, if my eyes don't deceive me.
Thanks for this blog post, it's really neat to see the ideas non-kespa mapmakers come up with. |
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| Zoler Sweden. January 05 2010 19:55. Posts 5922 | Profile Blog # |
On January 05 2010 19:00 skronch wrote:
am i missing something or is hamlet an island map? (until you mine out your natural)
Yeah, hamlet is an island map |
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| Yogurt Belize. January 05 2010 20:12. Posts 4257 | Profile Blog # |
| Wow these are awesome iccup should put some foreign maps as motw. it would give them a ton of exposure. |
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| Slugbreath Sweden. January 05 2010 21:39. Posts 200 | Profile Blog # |
Nice blog post. I like it when people write on topics like these since it's a nice change from all the regular stuff going on.
Anything But This looks cool, but I guess that it will suffer greatly from rush all-ins seeing how it's a two player map with short rush distances and two entrances into the main. Too me it just feels like 4pooling would be too good to make any matchup including Zerg interesting.
Venom also looks cool but the fact that so much of the map is unbuildable will make quite a few terrans pull their hair since pushing will be difficult.
Hamlet then. While I dislike playing on island maps and semi-island maps (this one is a semi), this one does seem interesting. Island maps have traditionally suffered due to the fact that Zerg had such a hard time expanding and being effective early on due to, in part, the lack of gas. That is why Paradoxxx had two geysers in the main after all; to help Zerg.
This map, however looks more balanced in that way, but with five very easy-to-get gases, this might be reversed. Think of what five-gas-Zerg mutalisk would mean, concidering the fact that early agression is nonexistant. I think that TvZ could be a nightmare due to this.
However, the terran could of course float a barrack or a factory out of his base, land it and send a bunch of marines or vultures to the mineral line of the natural of the Zerg player, shutting that expansion down for a while, but that would mean less marines in the main when the mutalisks come, so I don't know...
Oro Lala 1.2 looks sweet. In many ways it resembles Ride of Valkyries, but turned 90 degrees. I fear that the third gas might be a little too easy to get though, which would make Zerg a powerhouse on this map. I would remove the top and bottom ramp, making the distance to the third gas just a bit longer and thus making defending it harder. |
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| Zoler Sweden. January 05 2010 22:05. Posts 5922 | Profile Blog # |
On January 05 2010 21:39 Slugbreath wrote:Nice blog post. I like it when people write on topics like these since it's a nice change from all the regular stuff going on. Anything But This looks cool, but I guess that it will suffer greatly from rush all-ins seeing how it's a two player map with short rush distances and two entrances into the main. Too me it just feels like 4pooling would be too good to make any matchup including Zerg interesting. Venom also looks cool but the fact that so much of the map is unbuildable will make quite a few terrans pull their hair since pushing will be difficult. Hamlet then. While I dislike playing on island maps and semi-island maps (this one is a semi), this one does seem interesting. Island maps have traditionally suffered due to the fact that Zerg had such a hard time expanding and being effective early on due to, in part, the lack of gas. That is why Paradoxxx had two geysers in the main after all; to help Zerg. This map, however looks more balanced in that way, but with five very easy-to-get gases, this might be reversed. Think of what five-gas-Zerg mutalisk would mean, concidering the fact that early agression is nonexistant. I think that TvZ could be a nightmare due to this. However, the terran could of course float a barrack or a factory out of his base, land it and send a bunch of marines or vultures to the mineral line of the natural of the Zerg player, shutting that expansion down for a while, but that would mean less marines in the main when the mutalisks come, so I don't know... Oro Lala 1.2 looks sweet. In many ways it resembles Ride of Valkyries, but turned 90 degrees. I fear that the third gas might be a little too easy to get though, which would make Zerg a powerhouse on this map. I would remove the top and bottom ramp, making the distance to the third gas just a bit longer and thus making defending it harder.
Tho terran has auto 14 cc on hamlet which makes up for that (at least a bit). I don't have any experience so I can't say anything about that map tho.
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| CrimsonLotus Colombia. January 06 2010 00:03. Posts 1027 | Profile Blog # |
I really like Anything But This, but how the hell are you supposed to FE in PvZ?
Anyway, i think ICCUP should start including more foreing maps, some of this look really fun to play on. |
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