Go (board game) on TL

For those of you who aren't already aware there are some TL members/staff who play go on KGS in the social channel 'teamliquid'. For anyone new to go refer to other threads.

I am getting back into go after a 1 year hiatus and am slowly ranking up as evident in my profile. I just played a very emotional game. I wasn't aware that there was a way for me to post it online, however dmwit from #go on freenode on IRC pointed out a certain website which lets me upload the game file!

http://eidogo.com/#28gkFk2u

So the deal is basically this: I'm a 15k playing against a 13k with 2 stones of handicap. I get off to a good start and am doing well. The time pressure slowly creeps up on me and I make a big blunder (move 184 was the biggest mistake of the set). I was still slightly leading I think at this point, but I was so blown away mentally by this that I couldn't concentrate and kept making more and more big mistakes (they should be pretty obvious if you are at least 20k).

First of all I need to learn how to deal with a big mistake. There's obviously no benefit to emo'ing out and throwing the game. Second of all I need to bounce back from this game and play more. Maybe not today, but I can't let this make me go on another 1 year hiatus!

GAH SO FRUSTRATING.

Last edit: 2010-01-18 13:11:02

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AssuredVacancy Canada. January 18 2010 13:07. Posts 1125

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I always wanted to start learning Go, any tips on where/how to start playing?

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micronesia United States. January 18 2010 13:08. Posts 19348

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On January 18 2010 13:07 AssuredVacancy wrote:
I always wanted to start learning Go, any tips on where/how to start playing?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=89538

It's my blog on getting started in Go from a while ago.

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Tenryu United States. January 18 2010 13:13. Posts 564

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i tried learning Go once, i was completely confused

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illu Canada. January 18 2010 13:39. Posts 2531

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Go is kind of a slow game.

DarkOptik January 18 2010 13:46. Posts 452

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Wow shit. This is such a frustrating game to see played out from both sides. Especially since I'm watching white a lot more than black, just cause white has sente.

I thought you played early game pretty well, until ~85 or so, with the battles in lower left. I think you made some easy errors in there, probably cause you're rusty. Most obviously, Move 92: F2. It's just impossible, unless for very specific situations where you're one move away from capturing, for that to work. And overall, it generally is bad to attempt those kinds of blocks anyways, since it is very likely to lead to a laddering situation.

Move 112 was kind of dubious from my point of view. If he had gone H6 instead of G7 you would've been forced to patch and he would've had more room to develop in A-E.

I'll just stop here since I'm just nitpicking at this point. Hindsight is 20/20 of course. I hope you blog more about future games!

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Mx.DeeP China. January 18 2010 14:29. Posts 25

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I haven't posted in a while, but I'm a member of the Go Teaching Ladder (GTL). If you want, you can send the game to me and I'll give it a detailed review. I'm ~5k by the way.

mucker United States. January 18 2010 14:44. Posts 1068

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64 was your first real bad move imo, m6 cleanly captures white.

It's supposed to be automatic but actually you have to press this button.

pikaaarrr :3 United States. January 18 2010 14:58. Posts 587

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I'm ~1d. Have been lurking on TL for maybe a year.
Account is mahatma, ~1 year ago I was 2d but I only recently started playing again.

Some comments.

15 should have been at 17. You can't let white just slip in and get a comfortable group.
18 is weird, you should be taking territory on the 3rd line rather than try to gain influence on the 4th line.
Moves up to 76 all favor black. Good play here.
88 is an example of what some call "the worst type of move". You hardly ever want to push in and let him connect, because it destroys all the potential moves you could have had here. In this case, it's not terribly game-breaking, but its just something to keep in mind.
What is the point of 92? If your trying to put pressure on the white group, you must extend outwards with 96, or 92 will be captured by white easily.
104 should be at F6. You can't harm the white group here anymore.
144: don't fear ko. You should cut aggressively here, perhaps at N17. You don't have much to lose here.
In the sequence around 180, you need to make sure you always watch groups that are "almost dead" so they don't spring up some type of trap, such as what you fell into. Of course time pressure is a huge factor.

You played quite well in the opening, and of course the problems you had were due to lack of concentration.

If you ever want to play a teaching game, message me, or PM me here on TL.

BuGzlToOnl United States. January 18 2010 15:29. Posts 5916

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I played like 15 games when I was like 13 with a friend I can't believe I remember how to play after playing 10 games right now.

I'm 3-7.

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d3_crescentia United States. January 18 2010 16:46. Posts 3669

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I love Go. I tried to learn it back when I was in college for a brief period of time, but I was pretty bad at it, though I'd like to get back into it and learn in my spare time.

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MasterOfChaos Germany. January 18 2010 17:23. Posts 2896

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Just a reminder: We have a teamliquid room on kgs: Social->Teamliquid
I'm there in the european evening, and some more people are there once it gets a bit later in the US.

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konadora

Singapore. January 18 2010 17:36. Posts 44664

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I'll pwn anyone in go

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MasterOfChaos Germany. January 18 2010 17:40. Posts 2896

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On January 18 2010 17:36 konadora wrote:
I'll pwn anyone in go

show me

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konadora

Singapore. January 18 2010 18:05. Posts 44664

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how do you connect =/

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MasterOfChaos Germany. January 18 2010 18:33. Posts 2896

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http://www.gokgs.com/applet.jsp
Enter a nick and click on "guest". Then go to the roomlist and select teamliquid which is in social.
I can't play for the next 1.5h, but after that I'm free to play

You can also download the client(if you can call java webstart downloading). Then it has a few additional features and can be started offline.

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konadora

Singapore. January 18 2010 18:41. Posts 44664

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Lol I can't find roomlist, I'll try again later after Proleague :<

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meeple Canada. January 18 2010 19:00. Posts 10207

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I know the general rules of go and play occasionally but I probably suck balls compared to most real players. Regardless, thanks for the tips as to where/how to play.

sky_slasher United States. January 19 2010 00:16. Posts 328

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On January 18 2010 17:40 MasterOfChaos wrote:

Show nested quote +

show me

Kona, u play on KGS? I used to play there a lot...once reached 1D...you?

MasterOfChaos Germany. January 19 2010 00:53. Posts 2896

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Oh and since at we had at least two users who joined and quit quickly: KGS doesn't indicate that someone chatting, so we are often don't notice. And who is chogoling?

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