| Bill Murray United States. June 28 2010 08:33. Posts 7069 | Profile Blog # |
So, I was watching VODS. SKT is my favorite team, so I was happy to see their games against Sparkyz were up. They left me satisfied but unsatisfied at the same time, so I looked to see what else had been recently uploaded. I saw WeMade vs eStro. Hmmmm Baby... Really... sure. I checked it out. I see the first set is a TvZ, pitting classic vs roro, so I wasn't too thrilled. I figured RoRo would trample classing 9 times out of 10 and it would be not even worth watching. I skip to set two. I see .... NADA?
I was like what the hell. An old school Terran? Nice. To top it off, he's playing an up and coming protoss in Flying. It was perfect. I just had to watch it. I look down and see the timing on the game was like 8 minutes. I was like what the hell, 8 minutes. I figured Nada would try something and fail... boy was I wrong
Nada doesn't open 1 fact CC off siege expand like most would... he doesn't try to 14/15 CC off his rax and hold it with a bunker praying he can get a tank out in time before he dies... he doesn't cheese with proxy rax or even rush into anything. He goes 2 fact.
Him simply going 2 fact isn't what was "mind games" to me, though. It's how he did it. There is a build called a "fake double" or "fd" if you are not that familiar with SC. I am sure most of you know what it is. It is 5 marines and a tank, and it was popular as hell around 2004-2006 somewhere in there iirc.
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It is basically a 1 fact build in which you imitate a strong 2 fact push like a Joyo or V-Gundam rush, except with a lot less units, and you rely on spidermines. (you make a tank and research mines while making a vult after your first tank... it usually ends up being 5 marine 1 tank and a vult or two when you engage). Nada did a good job of denying the probe scout with his first few marines, and he didn't rush into making his 2nd fact. If you follow the Joyo build order, for instance, your 2nd fact will be done like right around or right as you start building your first tank (when your first machine shop addon is done) so you end up making your 2nd and 3rd tank at the same time. His 2nd fact was delayed to the exact timing that he knew gosi[flying] would expand based upon scouting an FD. Instead of fake doubling, he fake fake doubled. He faked that he was faking a double and actually doubled. Flying kept trying to see when his command center was going to be made, made a robotics before his 2nd gate, etc. He was completely thrown off his game.
What enabled Nada to do this, you ask... Well, the best reason is that Nada was the best terran around the time when this build was widely used (FD not FFD), so it gave or lent it credibility. On top of that, to flying, everything in front of his face was screaming one thing, while it was exactly the opposite. His 1 gate was not enough to hold the strong delayed 2 fact push. Hell, Nada even hid his 2nd tank for about 20 seconds. VERY good mind games. If Nada can maintain such a mental level of play that would make up for his lowered stamina and reaction time of simply being older than young bucks like Baby, I wouldn't be surprised if he got some more PT in the proleague.
Excellent play. I just had to blog about this.
If you haven't seen this, check this out. Seriously.
http://www.teamliquid.net/vods/?event=565
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| koreasilver Canada. June 28 2010 08:46. Posts 7514 | Profile Blog # |
| Nada did this before in an important bo5 on Medusa a while back. It was very very interesting and he did a really good job with hiding his fake FD but he ultimately lost the game because of a terrible mismicro when he went in for the attack. I'm glad he pulled it off this time. |
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 Harem United States. June 28 2010 08:47. Posts 9351 | Profile # |
| You missed the part where Flying also assumed that Nada was going starport which enabled Nada to easily waltz past Flying's nex and let him work his vulture magic in the main~ |
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| LuckyFool United States. June 28 2010 08:51. Posts 8328 | Profile Blog # |
On June 28 2010 08:47 Harem wrote:
You missed the part where Flying also assumed that Nada was going starport which enabled Nada to easily waltz past Flying's nex and let him work his vulture magic in the main~
this was the key to flyings loss. pulled goons back into his main keeping only 3 at his front door allowing for mine rapes. |
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| Bibbit Canada. June 28 2010 08:57. Posts 4608 | Profile Blog # |
| Yeah, I thought this was pretty sick too. I think Iris did this vs Bisu on Byzantium 3, not the epic game that was the 5th set in the series but set 1. Thought it was pretty awesome then too. |
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| RaGe Belgium. June 28 2010 08:57. Posts 9615 | Profile Blog # |
| Yeah this has been done multiple times already in the past. |
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| corumjhaelen France. June 28 2010 08:58. Posts 4925 | Profile Blog # |
Sorry, but why does Flying expect the drop ? Late CC ?
Anyway very very smart by NaDa.
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| Navi Korea (South). June 28 2010 09:45. Posts 3290 | Profile # |
On June 28 2010 08:57 RaGe wrote:
Yeah this has been done multiple times already in the past.
but this is NADA in 2010!!
good to see our little otter beating on flying :D |
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 Megalisk United States. June 28 2010 09:59. Posts 6095 | Profile Blog # |
| The best part was that it was his 100th win in PL. |
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| HeadhunteR Argentina. June 28 2010 11:57. Posts 1226 | Profile Blog # |
| nadas 100PL win what else did you expect.. the depth of the play of oldschoolers always amazes when it works.. it was such a gooooooooooooooooood feeling when nada won.. hehe. |
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| Mortality United States. June 28 2010 12:53. Posts 4790 | Profile Blog # |
| NaDa did a good job denying scouting and you'll notice that he kept his second tank back until he was ready to push to hide the second factory. But even though I'm a fan of NaDa, I have to confess that he got a little lucky. Flying knew something was up, he just didn't know what. So he pulled 3 goons to his main to cover his main's mining. But that was exactly the wrong move to try to counter NaDa's play. |
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