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 Milkis February 14 2011 16:40. Posts 4776 | Profile Blog # |
If you didn't know, I used to be quite involved in the competitive Pokemon community called Smogon. If you're familiar with Smogon at all, there were a lot of goods and bads about it -- the goods being that there are a lot of talented people, but the bads were that there was a lot of red tape, politics, and more drama than you could imagine (although some of the drama was caused by me being angry at the red tape).
About 18 months ago, me and two other friends started talking about a new way of organizing competitive Pokemon information. The idea was to remove as much red tape as possible and allow the community to filter out what was relevant and what is not. Another thing was that we wanted Pokemon to be a more creative game, not just limited by a few tiers that were official, and we wanted to put more emphasis on that aspect.
After 18 months, my friend finally pulled through. The site launched three days ago. The site is called WishMKR, after the OT of the Jirachi handed out by Nintendo.
http://www.wishmkr.com/
The site is still in beta pages, but if you have any interest in competitive Pokemon, or is currently involved in competitive Pokemon, I would appreciate it if you checked it out, and if have the time, there's a ton of ways you can help out in the site. The site is still adding features since it was coded entirely from scratch, even the forums. Even finding bugs, suggestions, or even contributing to the main site would all be really nice things you could do! The PokeDex is based on the 5th Generation (Black and White), and there are a ton of sets being added to the site every day!
I'll probably be involved figuring out what kind of achievements are good, and crunching statistics for the site and such. I'll also be borrowing a lot of awesome ideas that TeamLiquid and its users have proven that they work and bringing it into that site  Last edit: 2011-02-14 16:43:30
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| seRapH United States. February 14 2011 16:50. Posts 8243 | Profile Blog # |
I don't really understand what the goal is. What makes this different from bulbapedia, pokemon online, and smogon? I think I'm missing the point =S
idk, I haven't been up to date in competitive pokemon since Gen 4 came out. |
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| rainei Canada. February 14 2011 16:53. Posts 1308 | Profile # |
| my only interaction with Pokemon is envying my classmate's shiny Charizard beside the sandbox in grade 7. That means what you are saying makes zero sense to me, but at least we get good pokemon progamer analogies! |
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| Djagulingu February 14 2011 16:55. Posts 2870 | Profile Blog # |
So, as a complete noob shit, can i learn competitive pokemon?
Note: I am good at outpredicting my opponent and reacting to strategies. Of course this happens when I know how to react. |
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| xxSK8rGUy277xx February 14 2011 16:55. Posts 176 | Profile # |
| Hi. where can i buy lessons from your website on how to play this video game better? I want to become a professional pokemon player. |
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| Milkis February 14 2011 16:56. Posts 4776 | Profile Blog # |
On February 14 2011 16:50 seRapH wrote:
I don't really understand what the goal is. What makes this different from bulbapedia, pokemon online, and smogon? I think I'm missing the point =S
idk, I haven't been up to date in competitive pokemon since Gen 4 came out.
Bulbapedia is not competitively geared. Pokemon Online's main focus is a simulator -- not about collecting the latest sets etc (also, coyotte508 is also on board with us, we're trying to figure out a way of integrating PO and WishMKR atm).
The differences with Smogon is that Smogon convoluted themselves with red tape. If you look at their sets, they are pages and pages long. We concentrate on simplicity, and to get rid of all the complications Smogon had set up over the years that makes getting things done REALLY hard to do there.
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| Torte de Lini Canada. February 14 2011 16:58. Posts 27024 | Profile Blog # |
On February 14 2011 16:55 Djagulingu wrote:
So, as a complete noob shit, can i learn competitive pokemon?
Note: I am good at outpredicting my opponent and reacting to strategies. Of course this happens when I know how to react.
Yes, you can. It's just a real bitch to properly train your Pokemon.
I have 999:59 hours on my Pearl and over 500 hours on Platinum if some old Smogon builds and variations I made myself.
The hardest part to learn about Pokemon is properly IV and EV training. Movesets and everything else is really easy considering you can figure the logic of Pokemon with a bit of research and reading!
Competitive Pokemon is all about mind games and prediction in my opinion. Very, very nerve-wrecking @__@
Thanks for the site by the way! I used to use Serebii.net a lot for all general information previously. |
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| Umbrella Taiwan. February 14 2011 17:02. Posts 936 | Profile Blog # |
Interesting website! I haven't played since 4th generation, but I did remember that Smogon policy was sorta bloated and slow. I felt that you couldn't really make a difference unless you were a respected member. So I sorta agree with you in that department.
I registered an account in case I ever get back into Black/White. By the way, who were you on Smogon? I recognize some usernames on the Wishmkr forum from Smogon. |
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| seRapH United States. February 14 2011 17:04. Posts 8243 | Profile Blog # |
| Ok, cool, so this is the competitive pokemon version of liquipedia? It took me a while to find where the movesets actually were ._. |
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| Milkis February 14 2011 17:06. Posts 4776 | Profile Blog # |
my only interaction with Pokemon is envying my classmate's shiny Charizard beside the sandbox in grade 7. That means what you are saying makes zero sense to me, but at least we get good pokemon progamer analogies!
If you guys understood competitive Pokemon, I could make even better analogies!
So, as a complete noob shit, can i learn competitive pokemon?
It's not a hard game to pick up. I picked up competitive Pokemon in about a month or so 2+ years ago, and I was quite decent. I didn't play that long though.
I haven't played since then so I'm probably a very bad person to ask how the game is currently. But a lot of really good battlers are in the community, and I'm sure it won't be a problem for people to answer your questions about the game 
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| Juliette United States. February 14 2011 17:06. Posts 4936 | Profile Blog # |
fuck yeah competitive pokemon. 4th gen here as well 
too bad im not into it anymore but this looks pretty xD |
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| Milkis February 14 2011 17:15. Posts 4776 | Profile Blog # |
Hi. where can i buy lessons from your website on how to play this video game better? I want to become a professional pokemon player.
cute joke :D
The hardest part to learn about Pokemon is properly IV and EV training. Movesets and everything else is really easy considering you can figure the logic of Pokemon with a bit of research and reading!
Hmm, that's the grindiest part for sure. I remember back when D/P first came out I would just use my feet to press up and down on my DS to hatch eggs while I did school work so I can get pokemon with good IVs T_T
Thanks for the site by the way! I used to use Serebii.net a lot for all general information previously.
Hopefully it's easier to use than Serebii's site! If you do have any suggestions on what we should add and things related to organizations, let me know
Interesting website! I haven't played since 4th generation, but I did remember that Smogon policy was sorta bloated and slow. I felt that you couldn't really make a difference unless you were a respected member. So I sorta agree with you in that department.
I registered an account in case I ever get back into Black/White. By the way, who were you on Smogon? I recognize some usernames on the Wishmkr forum from Smogon.
Haha, I was Tangerine on Smogon 
And yes, nearly every user on WishMKR atm are also on Smogon. A lot of them was on board on the project from the start and helped put everything together
Ok, cool, so this is the competitive pokemon version of liquipedia? It took me a while to find where the movesets actually were ._.
Haha, you can think of it that way. Wikipedia was definitely what gave us the confidence to let people just add stuff directly to the site and letting people vote on things. It's not quite that fluid yet, but it'll get to that level eventually i hope!
Hmm, I guess the issue with the movesets is that they kind of follow the Smogon format -- we're fixing the front page etc soon so I think that'll give better pointers on how to get to the movesets.
fuck yeah competitive pokemon. 4th gen here as well
too bad im not into it anymore but this looks pretty xD
I also started 4th generation. It was amusing while it lasted, for sure
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| DoctorHelvetica United States. February 14 2011 17:18. Posts 13955 | Profile Blog # |
Awesome. I was playing competitively during R/S/E generation and was on Smogon. The community there is disappointing.
I'll check it out. Maybe with Black and White I'll get back into it. |
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| Juliette United States. February 14 2011 17:21. Posts 4936 | Profile Blog # |
On February 14 2011 17:15 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +fuck yeah competitive pokemon. 4th gen here as well
too bad im not into it anymore but this looks pretty xD
I also started 4th generation. It was amusing while it lasted, for sure
me too . got in at the beginning and stayed till a bit after plat before i decided to play xbox a lot more. i never put enough time to be really good but i miss chain chomp being the shit and then suddenly CBchomp and then bannedchomp
and the rise of flygon and scizor lol
edit: Holy shit you were Tangerine? I remember reading some of your stuff and going ...damn one day... Last edit: 2011-02-14 17:22:35 |
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| Zim23 United States. February 14 2011 17:31. Posts 1621 | Profile # |
| Good looking site. I tried reading some of the stuff on there and I was COMPLETELY lost. Guess my Red/Blue expertise is a little dated. My only question is this: Is Zapdos (my favorite) still awesome? |
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| Coagulation United States. February 14 2011 17:31. Posts 7561 | Profile Blog # |
has anyone here completed the platinum pokedex? i have like over 400 hours trying to "catch them all" but the trade system online in plat is fucking stupid.. like you actually have to know people personally to trade with them..wtf? im 28 fucking years old. i dont know anyone that plays pokemon that i can trade with. so stupid. its not like i can go to some elementary school and stand around the playground after school and trade pokemon with kids. im so disapoint. pokemon is my fav game.
i have currently around 350 pokermon caught by myself and trades on gts.. but it seems impossible to complete without having people you know to hook you up with rare shit like mew etc.
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| IntoTheEmo Singapore. February 14 2011 17:33. Posts 902 | Profile # |
Not sure if this has been asked before, but is there a way to get into competitive Pokemon without the pain of breeding/IV/EV? Premade Pokemon or something?
I love Pokemon, but the idea of grinding, grinding specific Pokemon to increase EV makes me cringe a little. |
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| Coagulation United States. February 14 2011 17:35. Posts 7561 | Profile Blog # |
| you can trade for pokemon that are pre IV/EV trained |
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| Milkis February 14 2011 17:36. Posts 4776 | Profile Blog # |
me too . got in at the beginning and stayed till a bit after plat before i decided to play xbox a lot more. i never put enough time to be really good but i miss chain chomp being the shit and then suddenly CBchomp and then bannedchomp
and the rise of flygon and scizor lol
I love Scizor, except I played before Platinum came out. I ran two variants -- a specially defensive variant, and a Sword Dance Quick Attack version. Bullet Punch apparently made him super awesome though :O
edit: Holy shit you were Tangerine? I remember reading some of your stuff and going ...damn one day...
One day what D:
Good looking site. I tried reading some of the stuff on there and I was COMPLETELY lost. Guess my Red/Blue expertise is a little dated. My only question is this: Is Zapdos (my favorite) still awesome?
500 new pokemon since then, with various new moves, 2 additional types, introduction of items and abilities, the physical/special split... yeah, a lot of stuff happened since the good old RB days.
Zapdos was pretty damn good as of the 4th Gen, I don't know how Zapdos stands in the 5th generation, however.
Not sure if this has been asked before, but is there a way to get into competitive Pokemon without the pain of breeding/IV/EV? Premade Pokemon or something?
Most people play on a simulator like Pokemon Online. Simulators are actually preferred, since Nintendo didn't do a great job with the 4th Generation Wireless play. Dunno if things changed in the 5th generation.
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| Coagulation United States. February 14 2011 17:41. Posts 7561 | Profile Blog # |
way to skip my post milkis thanks.
forever alone. |
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