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LANs and the Road to B+

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  Superiorwolf   United States. August 25 2009 14:21. Posts 2977Profile Blog 
A Summer of Starcraft

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This summer was one that Starcraft definitely played a huge component in. I've met a lot of people across the country now and have had a lot of fun with this game. Early in the summer I dreaded having to take a long flight from California to Washington D.C. to do a summer volunteer student at the NIH, but I found an opportunity for Starcraft that would be very rare. Returning home was difficult since the people over on the East coast were just amazing and really enthusiastic about Starcraft, but following what I did in Washington D.C. I had another amazing Starcraft experience.

When I first got to Washington D.C. I had to immediately start working the 9-5 for no pay at the NIH. It was definitely not fun for me in the place I was living in either - I shared a bathroom with three other people, had a terrible internet connection (9 people using the internet at once) and was furnished with nothing more than a few chairs and a bed. There wasn't even a TV! The internet connection was terrible for me because I would often get 1mbps or 2mbps on very low connection, or sometimes it would say 48 mbps very good but still be slow as molasses. Loading youtube videos took forever, and playing games on iCCup almost always lagged. In addition, my room was freezing since it was right next to the air conditioning and I had to do my own cooking every day, which I had never done before. Living by myself was definitely a fun experience though, because when I wasn't lagging terribly I got in a lot of Starcraft.

During my time I played one hundred games I think, getting myself up to B-. At one point in time I met lastshadow, and we decided to 2v2 after finding out that we didn't hate each other. Starting off was dismal, and we went something like 7-5 at D+ rank. But slowly as we started getting accustomed to each other we began getting higher and higher ranks, and though the lag was not comfortable, finally having a consistent 2v2 partner was amazing. We would often talk about the progaming scene, etc. I was definitely having a lot of fun with Starcraft.

In the same time period, I started a thread on Teamliquid asking if there were any people living in the area. I was planning to organize a LAN, even though I didn't even live in the area normally. Thankfully though, the response was enormous and we finally got a LAN date set up. The few days leading up to the LAN were so exciting that I would just sit and smile thinking about it. I was also very worried about the LAN though and extremely anxious - what if this went wrong, what if that went wrong? I researched tons of restaurants in the area and in my free time at work I would continually be looking at LAN tips and guides, etc. I was definitely consumed by this process! I remember one of the most nervewracking moments I had was calling the LAN center and asking if we could come in on the day we planned - I have no idea why I was so nervous and scared to talk to the dude, but with some convincing on Ventrilo by my friends I picked up the phone and called.

"Hi, how can I help you?"
"Um... is this... Seoul...? PC?"
"Yes this is Seoul PC, can I help you?
"Ya well uh... we... I was wondering... if maybe we could come in on July 11th and uh... ya if we could come in and play Starcraft on the 11th?"
"Ok, how many people?"
"Twenty-five."
"Twenty-five?! That's a lot of people... you can't make a reservation for that..."

As soon as he said those words I was really worried, but eventually we talked and, after I explained to him what "iCCup maps” were everything was settled, the LAN was set.

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Seoul PC... Gamer's haven...


A few days before the LAN I met up with David (duckett), a TL lurker. He was also working at the NIH so over the next few weeks we would often meet up during lunch and eat some pizza together. On the day of the LAN, I took the bus to his house and after about 15 minutes, Mona (hazelynut) and her brother Peter showed up. Then, it was time for a drive to Virginia! It was really nice talking to them and easy too because we were all Starcraft fanatics – they introduced me to some kpop and everything and Mona showed off her amazing Korean skills. When we got to the LAN center we went and got some lunch and continued to talk. We were in Koreantown, so it was easy to get some Korean food. They were showing tons of dramas on the TV and they were really weird and awkward (though Mona loves those k-dramas :D) so we actually asked them if they could put up MBC Game on TV, but unfortunately they didn’t have it After lunch we went to Seoul PC and waited outside for the other people to come. As soon as 1:30 PM hit it was amazing how many people just showed up out of nowhere, wearing SKT shirts and TL shirts and etc and being almost perfectly on time. We went in and announced to the guy working inside that we would be planning to be there for like 10 hours, and he dropped his mouth and was like “10 hours?!?! We thought it was just going to be like 2!” but they let us in and gave us all the computers in a tiny crowded section of the LAN. It was really great getting to meet everyone and the LAN was one of the best experiences ever. We ended up playing from 1:30 to like 3:00 AM so more than 13 hours or something like that. My worries earlier were not completely unfounded - we almost didn’t have room in the restaurant because I didn’t make a reservation early enough, I messed up the brackets over nine thousand times because of people being late, me not knowing what to do and also me just being very inept at using binarybeast, and when I was leading to the restaurant I was really scared for a second when we saw the building and instead of saying some gooldongae restaurant it said “Honey Pig ++!” with a big picture of a pig on the wall. But overall it was great!
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I thought it would look like this...

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But actually... it looked like this!

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The next few days would be spent working and then looking at the thread and seeing everyone’s posts. I would go out and watch two movies with TL.net members from the LAN in the course of the next week (Transformers and Harry Potter) and go hang out with Mona/David/Peter several times, in which we did exotic things like eat Hagen-daas ice cream from the Giant store, eat chicken wings, eat Peter’s homemade kung pow chicken, clean out the garlic drawer, get sprayed by a broken faucet and do some commentaries in the living room. Spending time with people who were just as interested in the same thing I was was just really amazing. Leaving kind of sucked, but when I finally got back home I knew exactly what I wanted to do…

Organize another LAN! I immediately started another thread and people started giving suggestions of where to go. The people in the Bay Area definitely seem a lot less enthusiastic about LANs. I remember in DC it was like – “Yes! A LAN! Any time, any place, let’s do it! I can help too, I’ll go and bring my camera, and go to Seoul PC and ask the owner what the rates are, and etc. etc. A LAN!” and now they’ve done another LAN and a finals meetup, and are planning another large LAN in October. They definitely have taken their enthusiasm and really run with this Starcraft meetups stuff  People drove from over one hour away to get to the LAN. People donated a total of $90 to a prize pool! This is in stark contrast to here – “Oh… can’t do this day and can’t do that day, before the 22nd please but after the 13th!” but I guess it’s understandable because the people here are spoiled by a lot more LANs. Still, we had a great turnout (15 or so) and some people drove from pretty far away to come (although no one donated to a prize pool but me ). As well, I should have put more effort into the organization and been less ambivalent about the date, but I only realized this bad attribute thanks to their lessened enthusiasm. In DC, all the work was practically already done for me by everyone else! So all in all I’ve learned a lot about LAN organizing in just two LANs and I’m definitely planning to do a lot more. LANs are just really the most amazing, wonderfullest awesomenest thing! I’m hoping to have ones that aren’t as big either because sometimes tournaments aren’t that fun for those D’s and D+’s, so we could do some more relaxing things like UMS (we did this in the last 2 hours of the BATTL I) or maybe even “normal” things like going bowling or something LOL. Seriously it would be really cool to just go watch movies with other Starcraft friends like what I was able to do in Washington D.C.


Oh, hello yosh's face!



One of my worries is that when Starcraft 2 comes out the things will be way out of my league – but who knows? It’s still a long ways off and I’m sure I’ll be doing a lot more LANs leading up to that. Hopefully I can make small steps and get bigger turnouts each time, and make it more professional and fun to come to, etc.
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Hopefully more professional than THIS masterpiece work of art, however…


My dream would be to get like 30+ people and have some energy drink company sponsor us with free energy drinks. That would be the culmination of AWESOME. Or maybe get a big enough event to rent out some school gym or something which would be pretty cheap, but then I’d have to learn how to do power management, table setups, routers, hubs and networks, but if there was someone skilled in that that would be really cool.

Getting B+


This blog, as I think about it now, is just going to turn into a big conglomeration of ideas and things that have happened that I want to slap down on writing. It’s not well-written at all, but I really enjoy Starcraft now. I went into a very long stint of no Starcraft – it was a several month long hiatus in which I played DotA with Testie and the TL Crew and poker (for playmoney -_-). But LANs, getting to meet people in real life, etc. has really rekindled my flame for Starcraft. Just today I got B+ for the first time. I still remember when I was a D/D+ newbie making commentaries with a high-pitched prepubescent voice. I’ve always wanted to get back into doing that, and I still do, but there’s so many put-offs for me For one, the scene is already dominated by Cholera and SC2GG, moletrap, etc. (Oh yeah, and I’m surprised moletrap didn’t come to the LAN!) If I do a progame commentary, it’ll already have been done and uploaded by one of them, and no one will watch mine because they want to watch their favorite commentator. Also, FPVODs and commentaries of replays are annoying to make because for some reason uploading them to Youtube takes me forever.

But anyways, back to the topic of B+. The road to B+, heh. I’m not sure whether my “knowledge” of the game has really improved, because when I look at it I still feel like I know so little about the strategy of the game. But the reason I am in love with Starcraft is just because it is so in-depth. I’m not the fondest fan of its community a lot of the time, but that’s just from my perspective (I really haven’t made a good first impression when I first came and it’s lasted for quite a while). So while it feels like I’m the same skill level as before, but now a higher rank, I question whether iCCup has been getting easier or whether I actually have been getting better. This season I achieved the high B with lastshadow (90-49, 7755), and probably could have gotten A- if we had continued or if I got another solid partner. But it’s always impossible for me to get a partner. And my 1v1 rank is 92-60, 8085. Two seasons ago when I got B for the first time, I was 64-27 and in the top 20 in USA (ladderwise). Now I’m B+ but in the top 30, so I’m not sure if more people played this season or if the ladder really has been getting easier. When I played yosh in the BATTL I, he still played me like a D- newb and I was completely dominated. He seemed to know my every move – I try to expand and he has a turret there in the middle of the expansion, waiting for me. I try to go around his army with lurkers to cut off reinforcements, he is ready for me and kills the isolated lurkers. I really never feel anywhere close to that level – I don’t know any of the “timings” of a Terran, like when they SHOULD have an ebay or when they SHOULD have their 3 raxes, or whatever. Protoss I’m a bit better with knowing what they should have and when. But I never seem to have accomplished the level of thinking in which you are analyzing your opponent as much and more than you are even making decisions for your own play. But I am proud of the B+ this season because I started playing early in the season, unused to a tiny laptop with a tiny screen and with lots of lag, and played often in Korean time (as opposed to two seasons ago, when I played late late season only and stopped playing as soon as Korean time started to begin).

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/smi.suppy.html

Ah well, I guess as this year begins my love for Starcraft will have to be put on hold. I’m still only going to be a junior in highschool, as opposed to how most of the Starcraft people are college aged. I’m going to busy with sports, lots of AP classes, SAT, etc. but hopefully I can still find time to have LANs and to continue enjoying this wonderful game. When Starcraft 2 comes out I am a little bit afraid of the masses upon masses of new people that are going to be playing it. But for now, Starcraft is the best :D

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Conan Wolf signing out!

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  Perguvious   United States. August 25 2009 14:28. Posts 977Profile Blog 
don't give up commentating just because there are already really good commentators out there. If jaedong is really dominant does that mean everyone in korea should stop playing starcraft? they don't, because they enjoy it and (for some) is their living.

if you enjoy commentating don't pussy out!
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  paper   August 25 2009 14:35. Posts 7281Profile Blog 
ahhhhhhh i have to go to the next lan

T_T sorry
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  29 fps   United States. August 25 2009 14:35. Posts 2339Profile 
nice. LANs are always great, especially in dorms. At first I thought it was going to be about LANs within your apt/dorm because of the slow internet. (9 ppl on LAN - many 1v1s + discussion, 2v2s, 3v3s, etc)...

p.s. that gif is kind trippy
T for 1v1, Z for 2v2, P for 3v3, R for 4v4
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  nataziel   Australia. August 25 2009 14:40. Posts 1000Profile Blog 
I wish there were more people in Brisbane keen for lannage, I never get to play lan games and improve, because at a lan you can ask people to give you tips on what you should have done instead of trying to analyse your own play...
It was like 25 min per mine, buy three, get a vulture free. Makes sense to me if this nighthawk is supposed to be a flying SCV. - Cpt. Cocaine
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  Cheeseball   Australia. August 25 2009 15:02. Posts 101Profile 
Keen to play some 2v2 with you if you want

http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/emrg)cheese.html
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  CaucasianAsian   United States. August 25 2009 15:14. Posts 5322Profile Blog 
If you do an internship at NIH again next year we def. should LAN again!
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  KawaiiRice   United States. August 25 2009 15:14. Posts 609Profile Blog 
The whole blog was nice. There's only one thing I don't god damn like.

+ Show Spoiler +


Edit: Btw do you wanna play sometime? I wanna see how much better you've gotten. I recall insanely aggro 3hat muta opening but nothing else really.
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  vRoOk   United States. August 25 2009 15:14. Posts 434Profile Blog 
I had the same thoughts about commentating

But I'm giving it another shot.. do you wanna try to dual maybe.. if your still interested?
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  Zalfor   United States. August 25 2009 15:29. Posts 875Profile Blog 
keep commentating.

keep on going =)

you've grown a lot since we first met. keep going on and don't let tough obstacles stop you from doing what you want.
555, kthxbai
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  food   United States. August 25 2009 15:58. Posts 1890Profile Blog 
did you only play zvz throughout B-/B? You got like 3 zvp games and rest zvz
Can someone ban this guy please? FA?
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  xhuwin   United States. August 25 2009 17:04. Posts 448Profile Blog 
I enjoyed reading this, though it was a bit long. Thanks for sharing.
Sigh, really wanted to go to the LAN. I'm from Northern Virginia but somehow I missed both DC lans cuz I was at school. Blahh. Next time.. next time.
xyn
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  resonance   Canada. August 25 2009 17:37. Posts 1274Profile Blog 
nice one wow
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  Ganfei   Taiwan. August 25 2009 17:55. Posts 1230Profile Blog 
The reason you got played by Yosh is because your B+ is not a "real" B+. Not to put you down or invalidate your achievement, good job getting it, but I'm sure you know that stopping there is not "real" so I don't feel as if I am being insulting.

And I remember beating you and your ally 3-0 TZ vs ZZ on Othello during my 2v2 ICCUP time and you BMed the shit out of us
Last edit: 2009-08-25 17:57:29
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  WeSt   Portugal. August 25 2009 17:57. Posts 289Profile Blog 
GJ, now gogo make more games! Don't stop on B+
zvz is imba
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  f10esqftw   United States. August 25 2009 18:02. Posts 872Profile Blog 
Hey man, I didn't go to the LAN cuz I was at Blizzcon. I said that in the LAN thread... otherwise I would have gone. Anyway, don't let other people doing commentaries of games stop you. If you're doing it for fun, anyways, it shouldn't matter.
aka Moletrap
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  d3_crescentia   United States. August 25 2009 18:33. Posts 501Profile Blog 
conannnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

I listed to one of your commentaries from 6 months ago today just so I could hear your voice again~

this summer was a lot of fun, and even though everyone else will be in school (and I'll get a job, at last?) I definitely want to keep doing stuff like LANs or late-night SC training on ventrilo or WE SHOULD DO A COMMENTARY SOON
Last edit: 2009-08-25 18:35:28
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  hazelynut   United States. August 25 2009 19:36. Posts 262Profile Blog 
Conaanaa!

Thanks for writing everything down! It definitely made me smile every two sentences (garlic drawer!! yeah). Randomly making dinner for each other was seriously one of the highlights of my summer, and it's still your turn, so you better come back to DC and cook your meat and cabbage for duckett, Peter, and me.

Hmm, I'll do a dual commentary with you if you process it, and then you can upload it on my channel and possibly increase your fanbase with the imbalance that is my gender Commentate more! I'm sure there's something distinguishing you from all the D+ players besides mechanics, and you probably have a LOT of game knowledge to share.
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  evanthebouncy!   United States. August 25 2009 19:45. Posts 8358Profile Blog 
OMFG have that girl come over and teach us the FBH dance!!! we need it hahahahahaha holy shit i want to learn.

Good luck with classes!! 4 years ago i made similar thread on how I'm quitting bw for couple of years. It did died down for me but back then I was D- hahahhahAHhhA

keep fighting!
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  LuckyFool   United States. August 25 2009 20:49. Posts 1585Profile Blog 
Conan great post! I'm glad I was able to find you on facebook! When you're out by the East coast again we'd love to have you for another LAN!

So awesome you got to B+ too, that's sick! I wonder if I could get B/B+ if I worked as hard as you on iccup.... I get too lazy/discouraged though when I start to creep into C+/B- range I usually just give up.

Have a great school year, maybe again sometime?! I agree with you on the whole starcraft 2 thing, it's going to be massive, no idea really how to predict whats gonna happen
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