edit: lakrismamma, I'm not American but when I got here I was instructed to say the pledge to both the American and Texas flag every single morning during my high school years. I guess it's some sort of ritual/tradition/convention?
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Ecael United States. September 30 2009 00:21. Posts 1347
The pledge was way easier than my times in Taiwan singing the National (or rather, party) anthem every morning, yay for comparisons to worse alternatives.
FuDDx United States. September 30 2009 00:21. Posts 2299
Its taught in the school. He is going to pre-school twice a week and my wife said he repeated the pledge perfectly at the mall and I was impressed thought I would try it and see if he could do it again.
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Gryffindor_us United States. September 30 2009 00:21. Posts 5315
yeah. for those of you who don't know, children in the united states are indoctrinated/brainwashed from a very young age. one of these methods is learning the pledge of allegiance and swearing their life to God and an ugly-looking flag.
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
the fact that it has god in it never fails to amuse me. separation of church and state go fuck yourself
Ecael United States. September 30 2009 00:28. Posts 1347
On September 30 2009 00:27 lazz wrote: yeah. for those of you who don't know, children in the united states are indoctrinated/brainwashed from a very young age. one of these methods is learning the pledge of allegiance and swearing their life to God and an ugly-looking flag.
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
the fact that it has god in it never fails to amuse me. separation of church and state go fuck yourself
Most atheists in the U.S. acknowledge that the "under God" thing doesn't really matter. There's only been one court case on this taken to the district level. We don't care... why do you?
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Hot_Bid Braavos. September 30 2009 00:32. Posts 22100
I think it's funny that you dipshits are talking about indoctrination and inculcation and brainwashing in a thread where the OP just wanted to show his son had learned the pledge. Get over your self-righteous smug attitudes, most people don't learn the pledge in some sort of brainwashing pseudo-religious indoctrination, they learn it because it's a part of living in the United States and having even the tiniest modicum of patriotism.
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Jibba United States. September 30 2009 00:34. Posts 7604
On September 30 2009 00:27 lazz wrote: yeah. for those of you who don't know, children in the united states are indoctrinated/brainwashed from a very young age. one of these methods is learning the pledge of allegiance and swearing their life to God and an ugly-looking flag.
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
the fact that it has god in it never fails to amuse me. separation of church and state go fuck yourself
Granted, I don't read TL very much anymore but I haven't seen as belligerent and idiotic a post as this one in a long time. It's a tradition. It's kind of stupid, but it's part of the culture. No one takes it at face value or even thinks about it, except for when it's being spoken.
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There you have it. It didn't come from the government down. There was no dictum, no declaration, no censorship, to start with, no! Technology, mass exploitation, minority pressure, carried the trick.
lazz Australia. September 30 2009 00:34. Posts 1401
On September 30 2009 00:27 lazz wrote: yeah. for those of you who don't know, children in the united states are indoctrinated/brainwashed from a very young age. one of these methods is learning the pledge of allegiance and swearing their life to God and an ugly-looking flag.
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
the fact that it has god in it never fails to amuse me. separation of church and state go fuck yourself
Most atheists in the U.S. acknowledge that the "under God" thing doesn't really matter. There's only been one court case on this taken to the district level. We don't care... why do you?
yes i am aware of how archaic it is, but it still amuses me.
edit: HOLY SHIT there are a lot of insecure americans in this thread suddenly defending themselves haha wow.
i was just pointing out how silly the pledge is and how it amuses me, no need to get all frisky.
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Ganfei Taiwan. September 30 2009 00:37. Posts 1230
Now all of a sudden its insecure to point out the stupidity of your argument? I'm not insecure at all. What the shit would I be insecure about? That because I know the pledge I've been brainwashed? I don't think so.
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Jibba United States. September 30 2009 00:38. Posts 7604
"Fuck you, you stupid fatass, redneck, REPUBLICAN, low infant mortality rate Americans with your ugly ass flag."
"WHOA, no need to overreact, guys! I was just saying that your flag doesn't quite fit my tastes"
There you have it. It didn't come from the government down. There was no dictum, no declaration, no censorship, to start with, no! Technology, mass exploitation, minority pressure, carried the trick.
FuDDx United States. September 30 2009 00:39. Posts 2299
I wonder why is that every single and each one of my university's PhD. professors, scientists, hell even U.S. history teachers and the people that work in construction are all foreigners? Why?
Maybe we just said to our native countries/politics "go fuck yourselves" and fled here. There's no patriotism in that even though we sing the anthem and raise our flag all the damn time.
Why argue over a statement that has 0 meaning to those who say it at all?
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Gryffindor_us United States. September 30 2009 00:41. Posts 5315
On September 30 2009 00:32 NoobsOfWrath wrote: I think it's funny that you dipshits are talking about indoctrination and inculcation and brainwashing in a thread where the OP just wanted to show his son had learned the pledge. Get the fuck over yourselves you self-righteous smug pricks, most people don't learn the pledge in some sort of brainwashing pseudo-religious indoctrination, they learn it because it's a part of living in the fucking United States and having even the tiniest modicum of patriotism.
??????? my comment had no hint of malice toward FuDDx. And, there is nothing wrong with criticizing the practice of mandatory recitation of the pledge of allegiance.
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