| Kezzer United States. April 20 2010 04:04. Posts 1260 | Profile Blog # | |
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| CrimsonLotus Colombia. April 20 2010 04:08. Posts 1026 | Profile Blog # |
I think streaming benefits from 3 or 4 cores, but the fact is that your processor is better than your GPU and i don't see how it would be a good idea to bottleneck your computer even more.
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| spinesheath Germany. April 20 2010 04:09. Posts 5148 | Profile Blog # |
I suggest that you try recording your CPU / GPU usage while streaming for a while. Raw data should easily tell you which is the most performance critical.
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| nttea Sweden. April 20 2010 04:18. Posts 4062 | Profile Blog # |
I would have thought those specs to be fine to stream in HD, quite surprised that it isn't. But then again i know nothing about that! if i had to take a guess i'd go with the gpu upgrade  . but like spinesheath said cpu/gpu usage during streaming should tell you what bottlenecks.
edit: also, your cpu should be pretty easy to overclock, if you didn't do that already. gpu can be overclocked too but from my experience stability suffers much more easily, though it depends greatly on the card (even the same models from the same manufacturer can differ significantly in what speeds they can run stable on)Last edit: 2010-04-20 04:21:07 |
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 love1another United States. April 20 2010 04:25. Posts 1844 | Profile Blog # |
Upgrade your hard disk to SSD.  Almost everything you do that has a "load time" will be I/O bottlenecked.Last edit: 2010-04-20 04:25:48 |
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| Kezzer United States. April 20 2010 04:26. Posts 1260 | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 04:09 spinesheath wrote:
I suggest that you try recording your CPU / GPU usage while streaming for a while. Raw data should easily tell you which is the most performance critical.
I'd like to do that, are there any specific programs that are good at this? I know my task manager can monitor cpu usage, but what about gpu usage? |
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| Kezzer United States. April 20 2010 04:26. Posts 1260 | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 04:25 love1another wrote:Upgrade your hard disk to SSD. Almost everything you do that has a "load time" will be I/O bottlenecked.
AFAIK SSD is still really expensive, know any cheap ones that can do the job well? |
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 R1CH Administrator April 20 2010 04:27. | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 04:25 love1another wrote:Upgrade your hard disk to SSD. Almost everything you do that has a "load time" will be I/O bottlenecked.
This won't benefit streaming in any way at all. |
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| KOFgokuon United States. April 20 2010 04:28. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
don't get products that are 2 generations old
get a 5770 |
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| Scorch Austria. April 20 2010 04:30. Posts 2937 | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 04:25 love1another wrote:Upgrade your hard disk to SSD. Almost everything you do that has a "load time" will be I/O bottlenecked.
I often recommend upgrading hard disks for general system performance, but it's the wrong advice for this situation. Neither 3D framerate nor livestreaming depends much on the hard disk. |
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| semantics April 20 2010 04:34. Posts 8553 | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 04:28 KOFgokuon wrote:
don't get products that are 2 generations old
get a 5770
Putting the gpu under less load wont make the stream better prob make frame rates in game a bit better or prob could crank up the quality a little but ->
On April 20 2010 04:27 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 04:25 love1another wrote:Upgrade your hard disk to SSD. Almost everything you do that has a "load time" will be I/O bottlenecked.
This won't benefit streaming in any way at all.
Yup the only parts that streaming will benefit from is faster cpu mostly for better faster compression as bandwidth is limited to 500kbp/s on live stream you have a quick cpu already e8500 can easily oc past 3.6 prob could do 4.0 on a good mobo.
When recording with fraps a fast hdd is important but when streaming it's not copying uncompressed frames to the hdd
CPU and RAM is what matters in the stream
you could also improve quality by lower the frame rate increasing the quality per frame at the cost of some fluidity but if it looks like shit fluid doesn't matter.
I meant the way i would set it up is put the resolution on the lowest possible while maintaining my 16 aspect raito oc my cpu and ram as far as i could and set procaster to stream at porb 15fps less 12 if it's not looking good enough while bumping up the complexity of the compression i'm assuming those options are in procaster ionno never used it.Last edit: 2010-04-20 04:39:56 |
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| spinesheath Germany. April 20 2010 04:39. Posts 5148 | Profile Blog # |
There is a nice and small program called GPU-Z which should be able to record GPU usuage (haven't actually tried recording though).
I think there also is a CPU-Z, but I haven't tried it yet.
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| Kezzer United States. April 20 2010 04:41. Posts 1260 | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 04:34 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 04:28 KOFgokuon wrote:
don't get products that are 2 generations old
get a 5770
Putting the gpu under less load wont make the stream better prob make frame rates in game a bit better or prob could crank up the quality a little but ->
Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 04:27 R1CH wrote:
On April 20 2010 04:25 love1another wrote:Upgrade your hard disk to SSD. Almost everything you do that has a "load time" will be I/O bottlenecked.
This won't benefit streaming in any way at all.
Yup the only parts that streaming will benefit from is faster cpu mostly for better faster compression as bandwidth is limited to 500kbp/s on live stream you have a quick cpu already e8500 can easily oc past 3.6 prob could do 4.0 on a good mobo. When recording with fraps a fast hdd is important but when streaming it's not copying uncompressed frames to the hdd CPU and RAM is what matters in the stream you could also improve quality by lower the frame rate increasing the quality per frame at the cost of some fluidity but if it looks like shit fluid doesn't matter. I meant the way i would set it up is put the resolution on the lowest possible while maintaining my 16 aspect raito oc my cpu and ram as far as i could and set procaster to stream at porb 15fps less 12 if it's not looking good enough
Well yeah, when I turn my stream on I get pretty bad FPS compared to when it's off. I guess the problem may lie in my 32 bit operating system(XP)? While I do have 4g of ram, it can only use 3.25. What I was hoping was for the better GPU to improve my in-game FPS while I am streaming. |
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| mahnini United States. April 20 2010 04:42. Posts 6767 | Profile Blog # |
| i'm more interested in where you'll be able to livestream in HD res :O |
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| love1another United States. April 20 2010 04:51. Posts 1844 | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 04:27 R1CH wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 04:25 love1another wrote:Upgrade your hard disk to SSD. Almost everything you do that has a "load time" will be I/O bottlenecked.
This won't benefit streaming in any way at all.
This will benefit streaming hugely. The bottleneck in almost any system for streaming is disk write-speed. SSD is HUGE since you get around a 10-fold increase in bandwidth over magnetic. And most of the time, what is copied to disk for streaming programs is uncompressed!
Oh woops. streaming as in not recording.... >.<Last edit: 2010-04-20 04:54:38 |
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| mahnini United States. April 20 2010 04:58. Posts 6767 | Profile Blog # |
| it's not like an SSD would help for recording anyway. HDDs are more than sufficient in terms of write bandwidth. bottleneck for recording / streaming should be CPU / RAM. |
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| semantics April 20 2010 04:59. Posts 8553 | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 04:41 BDF92 wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 04:34 semantics wrote:
On April 20 2010 04:28 KOFgokuon wrote:
don't get products that are 2 generations old
get a 5770
Putting the gpu under less load wont make the stream better prob make frame rates in game a bit better or prob could crank up the quality a little but ->
On April 20 2010 04:27 R1CH wrote:
On April 20 2010 04:25 love1another wrote:Upgrade your hard disk to SSD. Almost everything you do that has a "load time" will be I/O bottlenecked.
This won't benefit streaming in any way at all.
Yup the only parts that streaming will benefit from is faster cpu mostly for better faster compression as bandwidth is limited to 500kbp/s on live stream you have a quick cpu already e8500 can easily oc past 3.6 prob could do 4.0 on a good mobo. When recording with fraps a fast hdd is important but when streaming it's not copying uncompressed frames to the hdd CPU and RAM is what matters in the stream you could also improve quality by lower the frame rate increasing the quality per frame at the cost of some fluidity but if it looks like shit fluid doesn't matter. I meant the way i would set it up is put the resolution on the lowest possible while maintaining my 16 aspect raito oc my cpu and ram as far as i could and set procaster to stream at porb 15fps less 12 if it's not looking good enough
Well yeah, when I turn my stream on I get pretty bad FPS compared to when it's off. I guess the problem may lie in my 32 bit operating system(XP)? While I do have 4g of ram, it can only use 3.25. What I was hoping was for the better GPU to improve my in-game FPS while I am streaming.
Yeah becuase procaster wants the cpu and the game wants the cpu ususally how this is best handled in games is by having a quad core like i7 and set 2 cores to the game which gets the most benefit from only about 2 cores then set 2 cores for the stream so they don't interrupt each other viaing for cpu real estate try turning down cpu intensive settings in sc2 finding balance is what's it aboutLast edit: 2010-04-20 04:59:27 |
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T.O.P.  Hong Kong. April 20 2010 05:24. Posts 4442 | Profile Blog # |
| CPU. GPU doesn't matter at all. |
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| T.O.P. Hong Kong. April 20 2010 05:25. Posts 4442 | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 04:42 mahnini wrote:
i'm more interested in where you'll be able to livestream in HD res :O
Ustream. It's much much more reliable too. |
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| SayaSP Laos. April 20 2010 06:34. Posts 5478 | Profile Blog # |
On April 20 2010 05:25 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 04:42 mahnini wrote:
i'm more interested in where you'll be able to livestream in HD res :O
Ustream. It's much much more reliable too.
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