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Hey all lately i've been toying with the idea of dropping SC2 for a little and going back to broodwar, for some reason it just feels like a good idea. I'll be honest, i really haven't been furiously trying to improve my game for too long, and i went from knowing practically nothing in bronze league to near 1000pts in diamond, and it wasn't as hard as i thought it would be. Don't get me wrong, i still have A LONG WAY to go in SC2, and i cant wait to continue improving my game with it.
but could it possibly be worth it to jump back on ICCUP and start becoming proficient in BW? i played it for a while before SC2 came out and i was probably an F- rank, if such a rank existed. I feel like it might be a good idea to develop solid game mechanics with brood war and then jump back into SC2 in good time. My reasoning here is that i feel like my relatively lower APM (avg 80-90) in SC2 is just now starting to catch up with me, i'm starting to realize how many more things i couldve been doing at once. BW is no doubt much more APM intensive, and i think it would help in that regard, among other things. I think trying to achieve a D+ or possibly C- rank in BW would translate to a vast increase in my SC2 skill.
Thoughts? Is it worth it to go back and learn something that may not be around for TOO much longer or should i just be trying to practice with the new game at hand? I look at BW as more of a learning tool than anything else, although i'll admit i have a lot of fun playing it as well :D
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iNcontroL
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yeah I always play tennis to work on my baseball game.
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On September 21 2010 12:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote: yeah I always play tennis to work on my baseball game.
I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not.
Though i can say being on a swim team made me better at soccer (leg muscles).
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you don't think BW skill translates very easily to sc2 skill? Seems like i could learn a lot from it, but i could be wrong.
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On September 21 2010 12:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote: yeah I always play tennis to work on my baseball game.
Agreed, although I typically swim to get better APM.
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yeah but know that it could take you a year to reach C- in icup,
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if you're going from BW to sc2 then the skill translates obviously, but there's nothing to be gained by going backwards. mechanics iz mechanics which is all that came over from BW besides macro expansion timings scouting and natural feel for build orders and late game composure
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The macro mechanics of BW are almost completely different, the units move differently and ARE different. I don't see how this would help in the slightest.
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IMO, I say no. Not worth it. If your goal is to get better at SC2, stick with it. The gameplay from BW will mess up your game (units from BW just arn't the same as SC2).
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On September 21 2010 12:48 AnxietE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 12:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote: yeah I always play tennis to work on my baseball game. I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not.
You're either being really smart, or really dumb.
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On September 21 2010 12:50 Pablols wrote: yeah but know that it could take you a year to reach C- in icup,
Very true. I actually took a break from sc2 and went back to BW for the period between patch 13 (roach 2 supply nerf) and the 2nd wave of the beta. My apm went from 50 to 150 (average, sc2 does "normal" apm which translates to 150 when it displays 100), and my mechanics skyrocketed. Speaking from a zerg perspective for both games, it really really helps. I recommend you play until you get an urge to play sc2 again (It'll happen, trust me) with MBS and auto-mine. You won't regret it. Also, D+ was my goal and I only managed to maintain a D rank (which I'm pretty proud of actually).
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On September 21 2010 12:51 eNbee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 12:48 AnxietE wrote:On September 21 2010 12:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote: yeah I always play tennis to work on my baseball game. I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not. You're either being really smart, or really dumb.
You're either overestimating my intelligence or underestimating my stupidity.
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iNcontroL
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your time is better spent training SC2 to get better at SC2
If you want to do something else then sure, play BW, it could help. If you want to get better at SC2 and you don't care how you do it.. play MORE sc2.
Supplement it with vods, streams, replays and strategy forums/liquipedia. But don't go play bw and expect it to help your sc2 imo.
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yeah that is a brilliant Idea, and it will really improve your mechanics. when you come back to sc2, you will be significantly better
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if you like BW play it, there should be a practice partner thread on TL. Iccup is pretty tough for noobs these days so I understand if you are wary.
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They are 2 different games. What you can do and execute in one game you may not be able to in the other..
I would be very careful if you switch back.
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I've thought about it a few times but decided overall not to do it. Everything is just too different.
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On September 21 2010 12:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote: yeah I always play tennis to work on my baseball game. Yeah summed up pretty well. Sc2 and Sc are very different mechanics wise. Playing sc wont make you better faster than just playing sc2. All the effort you spend in BW will be better spent playing sc2
On September 21 2010 12:55 Hikko wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2010 12:51 eNbee wrote:On September 21 2010 12:48 AnxietE wrote:On September 21 2010 12:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote: yeah I always play tennis to work on my baseball game. I can't tell if your being sarcastic or not. You're either being really smart, or really dumb. You're either overestimating my intelligence or underestimating my stupidity. Ahhah!
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You will technically get better I guess, but it will be very frustrating. BW is so so so choppy compared with SC2. Mechanics wise, you'll get better, but u won't gain anything strategy wise. If I were u, I would stick with SC2, but going back isn't a bad idea.
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There is nothing BW could teach you that more sc2 couldn't, and anything that you would learn would be unnaplicable to sc2. Like incontrol said, it would bE like playing tennis to get better at baseball. While the same concepts apply (hit the ball really hard) the execution is completely different.
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