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| shell Portugal. February 26 2011 19:05. Posts 1767 | Profile # |
You were wrong, so don't do it again! You are a joker, you always have been but there are limits now that you have that responsability. So just stop pushing it that far and behave better so that you don't get this hate and criticism!
Ever since i entered this community you have been one of the guys that does more stuff for the community and people forget that very easily. Keep working dude for you dream, i'm with you.
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| PanN United States. February 26 2011 19:10. Posts 2595 | Profile # |
| You accepted responsibility for things and apologized for it. That's pretty damn cool in itself. |
| | We have multiple brackets generated in advance. Relax . (Kennigit) I just simply do not understand how it can be the time to play can be 22nd at 9:30 pm PST / midnight the 23rd at the same time. (GGzerg) |
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| paksam February 26 2011 19:18. Posts 143 | Profile # |
On February 26 2011 18:58 Sylvr wrote:
But anyway, so he gets a link to a restream, which happens to be Huko. I wasn't there for this, but what I heard is that there was a lot of trash talk going on in Huko's stream specifically against iNcontroL. I don't know if it was in his chat or if he was saying the stuff to his stream. In any case, iNcontroL was there listening to it for a while (supposedly about an hour). Eventually, he got fed up with it, went to ban Huko for restreaming, and found that Huko had, in fact, been banned for restreaming GOM before.
Sorry I was randomly just reading the support for incontrol(which I totally support) and then I saw your post and felt compelled to tell you that you have the story wrong (essentially). Huko does NOT use a mic. So therefore iNcontrol could've easily ignored chat(full of trolls anyway). I just want you to see how bad this makes iNcontrol looks especially because he is a huge face of NASL. I'm sorry for replying but I feel you are misjudging all who were against iNcontrol before he apologized. That being said, iNcontrol is freaking awesome and I totally misjudged him (which I apologize for).
Sorry for ranting on your rant, but I feel most people here probably weren't watching huko's stream. |
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| BluePabs United States. February 26 2011 19:25. Posts 317 | Profile # |
On February 26 2011 09:49 Corrupted wrote:
This is the one thing I've hated in life more than anything.
A few idiots act like fools and ruin the fun for everyone.
I'm pretty sure this started when my first grade teacher decided to punish the whole class with no recess because one idiot in the class couldn't stop causing trouble. He had no trouble missing recess while the rest of the class was punished. He won!
Same thing happens throughout life. Rules get put in place that punish everyone because one person does something stupid.
Now we have Geoff, the most interesting and entertaining figure in all of esports, claiming that he's going to punish everyone by changing his public personality because a few idiots feel the need to tear him down. I really don't know if I blame the idiots, or Geoff more for this.
Since Geoff started his stream (and maybe before this with SotG), he has consistently overreacted to the insanely serious, insanely vocal minority. This is clearly another example of that. There is a reason he has the most viewed stream on the site even though he just barely has gotten started. There is a reason he gets more comments made about him on the TL forums than any other figure. There is a reason the NASL.tv chose him. It is all because he is who he is. Changing that is incredibly counterproductive to everything.
Incontrol needs to take a lesson from Tasteless who on GOM regularly pokes at the serious nerds who think it is important to tell everyone what they think they are doing wrong. These people are idiots who will always be there trying to drag you down no matter how good you do or how far you go. You have to know within yourself that the things you do are done lighthearted and come from a good place which is the only basis for judging anything.
Focus on yourself and not the never-ending commentary that will surely follow you. If someone above you (a boss or respected friend), gives you feedback...then absolutely re-evaluate. However, letting anonymous internet trolls change who you are is a serious miscalculation of what is needed to make yourself and your endeavors successful.
This. This. This.
You've done what you can. You made a mistake, you apologized. What else can you possibly do? I just hope that you can act going forward like this never happened.
EDIT: I just want to clarify...obviously it happened and you learn from those mistakes. I just hope when you're on SoTG, stream, or NASL you act like this never happened or there isn't a bunch of haters that will hate you no matter what you do. Last edit: 2011-02-26 19:28:16 |
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| Shizuru~ Malaysia. February 26 2011 19:32. Posts 1627 | Profile Blog # |
Well, somebody has to be the  firebathero of the western E-Sport scene... 
but being the FACE of NASL carries a huge responsibilities, your public image is now tied incredibly closely to the fate of the future of E-Sport now! |
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| DND_Enkil Sweden. February 26 2011 19:34. Posts 597 | Profile # |
On February 26 2011 04:59 iNcontroL wrote:
With that in mind I want to beg you to trust that I am dedicated to doing this as best as I can. It is clear that means making changes. I am a public figure to a degree that previously was never realized by myself. I am no longer the joking or "douchy" persona on a podcast, streamer, EG captain or w/e... I am the face of a movement that is important to us all. As such I am prepared to make changes. A lot of people will see me announcing these changes as some kind of "martyring" but I can assure you I seek no such emotions. I truly believe what I did was wrong and sustaining that behavior would be a continued disservice to myself, those that have entrusted me with this role and the community I love.
Well said, you have me sold.
I really think you need to stop ripping into other players/tournaments/casters. Apart from that i do not think you need to step back to much, just give a politcly correct answer whenever you are talking about someone else in the "scene".Last edit: 2011-02-26 19:35:07 |
| | "If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson |
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| Loophole United States. February 26 2011 19:37. Posts 853 | Profile Blog # |
Geoff!
Over the years there have been people in the community who didn't like you, but they were the minority. Your personality, your edge and your charisma are what got you where you are, along with being an elite player.
You made a mistake in mocking Kelly and restreaming GSL, but let's be honest, many people on TL are restreaming GSLs, and while it's not condoned, it's not actively discouraged either. It's true that I've seen people warned in the past for positng restreams, but stream summaries often blatantly advertise that they are restreaming on TL, and they are left to do so. Still, in your position it is not acceptable, but you have admitted as much and apologized.
You're an intelligent guy, and you learn from your mistakes. There's no reason to sterilize your personality and limit your exposure to the community. By doing that, you'll only hurt NASL and the SC community. Without sounding patronizing, I'd say that you are a large part of what makes the community fun to be a part of. Please don't build a wall around your personality.
That might mean that you'll still make mistakes in the future, and there will be a chance of failure. But if you close yourself off, you are sure to fail. Continue to be the person who has won the hearts of so may in our community, and you are likely to succeed. Be iNcontrol and your martial spirit will come through from within. =)
Edit: BTW reddit is a pretty cool site. Judge individuals, don't over generalize like an asshat people.Last edit: 2011-02-26 19:41:09 |
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| Sqq Norway. February 26 2011 19:52. Posts 1974 | Profile # |
| People are allowed to make mistakes. I wasn't InControls biggest fan after a few comments he made earlier, but in the long run I've really warmed to the big fella. People who can't seem to forgive him are just stubborn. He did a mistake, he owned up to it, and he is sorry. I for one believe in second chances, and I know you'll do well with the NASL Geoff. |
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| -yoda Canada. February 26 2011 19:59. Posts 30 | Profile # |
I find it really hard to believe that people actually bring up racism when talking about Kellys accent being poked fun at. Her job is to commentate which is obviously a job that demands being fluent or at least having decent pronunciation(she doesn't have either of these), which is the reason why most people poke fun at her, NOT because they're racist.
And don't come up with the bullshit that she can't help herself from talking like that. I spoke shitty English when i started learning it (my fourth language mind you).Yet by practicing pronunciation i became fluent to the point that most people think its my native language and i know plenty of people that are able to change accents on the spot. Its hardly out of her hands, so hopefully she works towards that goal. |
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| Motion Germany. February 26 2011 20:07. Posts 180 | Profile # |
| Incontrol you are not an Asshole, you are more a kind of person who wanna hide his fear behind some kind of "forced controlism". You try way too hard to be the "strong dude" the dude who checks everything and stays on top of the mountain ... if you will proceed with this behavior you will never become a "charismatic" person .. Last edit: 2011-02-26 20:08:57 |
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| thesideshow February 26 2011 20:07. Posts 906 | Profile Blog # |
Why are people taking so much offense to InControl making fun of Kelly's accent anyway? I have the exact same accent. I myself KNOW that it's hard to understand and so I enjoying making fun of it myself.
InControl, you're a great guy. I love you and thanks for everything you're doing for the community <3Last edit: 2011-02-26 20:11:14 |
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| Loophole United States. February 26 2011 20:49. Posts 853 | Profile Blog # |
On February 26 2011 20:07 Motion wrote:
Incontrol you are not an Asshole, you are more a kind of person who wanna hide his fear behind some kind of "forced controlism". You try way too hard to be the "strong dude" the dude who checks everything and stays on top of the mountain ... if you will proceed with this behavior you will never become a "charismatic" person ..
Maybe you meant a different word here. It would be pretty hard to argue that iNcontrol isn't charismatic. |
| | "Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar |
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| UberThing Great Britain. February 26 2011 20:50. Posts 410 | Profile # |
| Big Bear, keep working hard and get the show on the road |
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| Loophole United States. February 26 2011 20:55. Posts 853 | Profile Blog # | |
| | "Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar |
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 L3g3nd_ New Zealand. February 26 2011 20:57. Posts 9595 | Profile # |
<3 incontrol,
dont change a thing imo, youre jokes and all that are amusing, and your rants and arguments are always entertaining, although such a role that you have taken is going to be a very public one, i hope there are many great times ahead and many more rants and inapropraite jokes 
What you are doing for the SC2 community is amazing, and be assured that as you love us, we love you |
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| NSNick United States. February 26 2011 21:00. Posts 1 | Profile # |
Hey, iNcontroL. First post here (obviously). I'm not a person who's on the in-crowd of StarCraft, but I take an interest, mostly reading my news at reddit, stopping by here once in a while, and checking out the GSL, etc. Just so you know where I'm coming from. Here's my take on the whole thing:
You made a couple mistakes at the exact wrong time to make them. Oh well, can't change that, shit happens. But the reason it turned into a shitstorm, IMO, was the fact that people who didn't previously know you and what you were about caught wind of these ...transgressions (probably not the best word, but meh) without knowing your joking nature and took them literally. That combined with your newfound status as the figurehead of the NASL, which most people are looking to with very guarded optimism, blew up.
That said, I think you can still be your own jokey, fun-time-havin' self, just be sure to: a) make sure what channels are you as a person, and where you're acting as an NASL rep, and b) to reduce your overall exposure outside of NASL repping until the league gets started. I'm pretty sure that once the NASL gets started, it'll be awesome or not so awesome (hopefully awesome) on its own merits, and not because of anything you say or do (assuming you don't do anything egregious).
So, I don't know if you care what this random dude on the internet has to say, but there are my two cents. |
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| Clamev Germany. February 26 2011 21:27. Posts 498 | Profile Blog # |
I do not think that you did anything wrong besides the GSL restream.
I love everything you do including all the mockerys and giving people a hard good time.
You are one of the risen i like esport, because of people like you it has personality! |
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| Jhax Ireland. February 26 2011 21:38. Posts 201 | Profile # |
| INcontroL your awesome, at the end of it all this is just a game, were supposed to have fun and enjoy it, and this drama is just unneccesary. I don't think it was right to re stream GSL, but I can't see why doinig that one little thing would make people hate you. Your awesome, nuff said imo. |
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| Zlasher United States. February 26 2011 21:41. Posts 8318 | Profile Blog # |
I wrote it on twitter and I think its my proper response to this post Geoff. The haters are the ones who talk, the supporters, the people with faith, sit back and watch success.
I've been with you in ventrilo more than a few times and know what your joking manner is and one thing you don't joke about is a serious apology, hell, the community, especially the newer members of it, need to realize coaxing an apology out of you isn't easy to do.
I wish you the best of success, because you really do work hard for this community. |
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| xtfftc United Kingdom. February 26 2011 22:03. Posts 2337 | Profile Blog # |
| restreaming gsl was plain stupidity but overall I honestly can not see a problem with your behaviour, Incontrol. paying attention to criticism is good but dpon't let it make you toothless. |
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