| Bibbit Canada. July 20 2011 17:28. Posts 4608 | Profile Blog # |
As promised, I come here today with a bit longer of a game. But still I was testing out a new rush. It’s just a bit of a later rush. So I want to play a guessing game! I will post a screenshot of every major tech choice and we’ll see how long it takes people to guess the rush. :D
So after you end up seeing what it is, think back to at what point you figured it out. ^^
Anyways lets start the game!
I start at the top position on Python (yes python again). + Show Spoiler [Stupid Tangent] + Omg whenever Python gets to be MOTW I just want to punch a squirrel in its stupid little squirrel face. I mean I think the MOTW system on the whole is a really cool idea but fuck it’s not like people need any more reasons to play on that map.
White, along with yellow, is the worst colour to have with zerg. Thank God for Shift-Tab-Tab that allows me to be the only-slightly-mediocre teal. Looking to settle into a longer game, I go for a 12 hatch. A hatchery before the pool? There must be some kind of mistake. Still, I don’t want too long of a game so I take my gas and opt for a 2 hatch build. Shut up I know 2 hatch muta is a perfectly standard build that can transition into a perfectly standard macro game. I know, you were thinking it, Mr. Liquidian! When I hit 100 (and 28) gas I start up my lair. I’m sorry but lairs arent that funny. Carry on sir. My lair is seconds from completion but there’s an scv in my base. I’ve got a few lings chasing it but unfortunately they don’t have speed and it’s actually possible to scout zerg in this game. I cross my fingers and hope he’s awful. My prayers are answered and he loses his scv instantly. He reminds me that I’m lucky for him being awful. With the scv dead I’m free to continue the quest for my unit of choice. I apologize for playing that race for having God-Young Ho betray his race and give me such insane luck. I don’t usually get into games that go somewhat late but I heard once that upgrades are pretty good. Idk though. No its not an evo chamber all-in. But it should be getting increasingly clear! Just more tools for the guessing game. The extractor has been taking improv lessons from the lair but its not going too well. Queens Nest finishes and I get to work on my Hive while also starting +1 carapace. I couldn't find the Liquipedia passage that says to get hive at 24 food but I’m pretty sure its in there. I just have 5 sunkens because he only has two barracks complete with an almost-done factory and it’s important not to overreact. “Ready to lick, sir” - Sunken Colonies I try to run my lings around to delay his attack some more. What? No my sunkens alongside 12 lings couldn’t have handled those 9 marines. I needed to stall. If there’s anyone who hasn’t figured out what I’m doing yet, here it is. Fine, one more hint: It’s Ultralisks. His little army is still out on the map but I park my lings outside his base so he can’t straight-up rally over. Nine lings. That’ll show him. Finally my precious Ultralisk Cavern is complete. I start Chitnous Plating and 4 ultras, with a 5th to join soon. No I would never forget to edit out the replay bar! And I certainly wouldn’t do it again in the next picture!My little ling squad finally gets cleared out by his firebat taskforce. “Ling Busters! nananananana” - Firebats I see him erecting a bunker out front of my base. I’m in no imminent danger and my ultralisk imba-armour is going to come online in just a moment. The only rational decision is to just wait for it. My D-Senses, however, told me that the bunker would make a world of difference against my ultra/ling army. The D-Senses are, of course, way too powerful so I go in for the attack. The bunker finished before my ultras got in melee range anyway T_T. I clean up most of the army with 3 ultras still standing. I actually end up losing one of those ultras because it turns out I’m terrible so that the other ones can heal up by eating its corpse. At this point terran is spamming mines all over the place. With a low-econ, pure melee army, this a bit problematic. But don’t worry, I have giant 200 gas minsweepers. There’s no really scary air units for terran so its not a problem that I can’t shoot up or make anything that shoots up. Right? “What? Units go inside that and then can come out in my base?” I actually never end up dealing with the thing. It turns out my minesweepers were just a bit too good so they were almost dead by the time I got to his base. And a few were fully dead by the time I got to his army. I’ve got some zerglings (now featuring crack!) trickling in but I’m pretty much cleaned up at this point. It turns out cracklings aren’t quite as unfair as I thought they were when I played terran. The only thing left is some end-of-game friendly banter. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wjHrt.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/6HnKZ.png) Finally I officially concede the game and call the GG, thus concluding the my first ever loss battle report. :D ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KUELy.png) Okay now for some srs bsns. I don’t want to entirely abandon the ultra rush quite yet. I’m thinking a bit more lings for backstab with less sunkens? Perhaps more importantly than “more” lings would be “lings actually positioned for backstab instead of chillin in my main and going for the runaround when his shit’s actually at my base.” Any help appreciated. 
Also, don’t forget about the guessing game! How did you guys do? I feel it might have been given away at the evo chamber, if not the queens nest (could have still been queens though!)
Hope you enjoyed. ^^
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| Gummy United States. July 20 2011 17:44. Posts 2169 | Profile Blog # |
| I think your problem was the positioning and your letting him set up a costly contain at your front. What you have to do is ninja a hatch somewhere and use those larva to build zerglings. Minesweep with zerglings first. Then clean up with ultraling! |
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| Djagulingu July 20 2011 17:50. Posts 2876 | Profile Blog # |
| Dude, you're doing it wrong. You have to go crazy zerg if you want totally early ultras, and have 2 evos instead of 1. |
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| don_kyuhote July 20 2011 18:19. Posts 1892 | Profile Blog # |
lolsy. Too bad you couldn't win looked fun! |
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| 3FFA United States. July 20 2011 19:21. Posts 2714 | Profile Blog # |
The trick is to hide the expansion in another main to make him think you are all-inning 
edit: Knew it was guard/proxy hatch/ultra the second you did 12 hatch. Then I saw the hatch placed down and knew guard/ultra. Ultra being more likely. Hatch gives it away  Last edit: 2011-07-20 19:28:50 |
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| SilverSkyLark Philippines. July 20 2011 19:25. Posts 7249 | Profile Blog # |
I wanted to see a 2 base Ultra Work so badly.  |
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| Bibbit Canada. July 20 2011 19:30. Posts 4608 | Profile Blog # |
On July 20 2011 19:21 3FFA wrote:The trick is to hide the expansion in another main to make him think you are all-inning  edit: Knew it was guard/proxy hatch/ultra the second you did 12 hatch. Then I saw the hatch placed down and knew guard/ultra. Ultra being more likely. Hatch gives it away 
Meh youre pretty much stuck defending with sunkens so you cant really try to defend 2 completely separate places. ^^ |
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| shucklesors Singapore. July 20 2011 19:36. Posts 1136 | Profile # |
I love these kind of blogs. Beautiful work keep it coming!  |
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| 3FFA United States. July 20 2011 19:46. Posts 2714 | Profile Blog # |
Ok just read your other 2 BRs. I have proxy hatch replays if you want to see. Proxy hatch = most hilarious cheese in the world. "Creep? What creep?!? There ain't no creep in my base!" + Show Spoiler +"There ain't any fire extinguishers either"  Also, are you pokerface? o.o |
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| Axonn Croatia. July 20 2011 22:49. Posts 145 | Profile # |
Enjoyed reading all 3 of your BRs. Keep up the good work. I'd really like to give you some advice on this rather non-standard build, but since I'm even worse player than you, I can only show you support for doing these . Looking forward for more reports  |
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| SaetZero United States. July 20 2011 23:15. Posts 759 | Profile Blog # |
I read this, saw your hive and i was like "2 base hive? what the..?"
interesting to say the least haha. glad your enjoying bw. is d level typical of this, or is it a little more highly skilled normally? i know the last time i was on iccup, it was crazy hit and miss. some people were awful, some were pretty good. >< |
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2Pacalypse- Croatia. July 20 2011 23:34. Posts 4233 | Profile # |
| Another awesome BR! Keep 'em coming! |
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| ghrur United States. July 20 2011 23:36. Posts 2709 | Profile Blog # |
Hahaha, epic. Try doing this on andro and going crazy zerg off 3 base. :D
Also, I was guessing 2 hatch lurker drop.  |
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| SaetZero United States. July 21 2011 00:12. Posts 759 | Profile Blog # |
On July 20 2011 23:36 ghrur wrote:Hahaha, epic. Try doing this on andro and going crazy zerg off 3 base. :D Also, I was guessing 2 hatch lurker drop. 
mineral only third.... i dont see it helping a ton. he gets a not a lot that helps his issue, in return for giving his opponent a free third.
i dunnnnno.... |
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]343[ United States. July 21 2011 00:30. Posts 8189 | Profile Blog # |
On July 20 2011 19:46 3FFA wrote:Ok just read your other 2 BRs. I have proxy hatch replays if you want to see. Proxy hatch = most hilarious cheese in the world. "Creep? What creep?!? There ain't no creep in my base!" + Show Spoiler +"There ain't any fire extinguishers either"  Also, are you pokerface? o.o
speaking of proxy hatch... "why drone here"? hahaha
OP: nice try haha. maybe try a 3 base ultra rush instead? or at least 3 hatch? |
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| Bibbit Canada. July 21 2011 01:09. Posts 4608 | Profile Blog # |
On July 20 2011 23:15 SaetZero wrote: I read this, saw your hive and i was like "2 base hive? what the..?"
interesting to say the least haha. glad your enjoying bw. is d level typical of this, or is it a little more highly skilled normally? i know the last time i was on iccup, it was crazy hit and miss. some people were awful, some were pretty good. ><
Really you only have to pass like 1200-1300 points to find people who have a pretty good idea of build orders and how a particular match up is supposed to look from start to finish. Mostly just bad at executing it.
On July 21 2011 00:30 ]343[ wrote: Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 19:46 3FFA wrote:Ok just read your other 2 BRs. I have proxy hatch replays if you want to see. Proxy hatch = most hilarious cheese in the world. "Creep? What creep?!? There ain't no creep in my base!" + Show Spoiler +"There ain't any fire extinguishers either"  Also, are you pokerface? o.o
speaking of proxy hatch... "why drone here"? hahaha OP: nice try haha. maybe try a 3 base ultra rush instead? or at least 3 hatch?
Yeah that would certainly make more sense. >_> |
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| JYS New Zealand. July 21 2011 01:27. Posts 2 | Profile # |
| Great blog. Always checking the blog section for another one of these. Stopped lurking to show appreciation. |
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| 3FFA United States. July 21 2011 02:09. Posts 2714 | Profile Blog # |
On July 21 2011 01:09 Bibbit wrote: Show nested quote +On July 20 2011 23:15 SaetZero wrote: I read this, saw your hive and i was like "2 base hive? what the..?"
interesting to say the least haha. glad your enjoying bw. is d level typical of this, or is it a little more highly skilled normally? i know the last time i was on iccup, it was crazy hit and miss. some people were awful, some were pretty good. ><
Really you only have to pass like 1200-1300 points to find people who have a pretty good idea of build orders and how a particular match up is supposed to look from start to finish. Mostly just bad at executing it. Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 00:30 ]343[ wrote: On July 20 2011 19:46 3FFA wrote:Ok just read your other 2 BRs. I have proxy hatch replays if you want to see. Proxy hatch = most hilarious cheese in the world. "Creep? What creep?!? There ain't no creep in my base!" + Show Spoiler +"There ain't any fire extinguishers either"  Also, are you pokerface? o.o
speaking of proxy hatch... "why drone here"? hahaha OP: nice try haha. maybe try a 3 base ultra rush instead? or at least 3 hatch?
Yeah that would certainly make more sense. >_>
Why am I ignored? . Also, check out the proxy hatch guide . You can always go proxy hatch into ultra rush  |
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| Bibbit Canada. July 21 2011 02:21. Posts 4608 | Profile Blog # |
On July 21 2011 02:09 3FFA wrote: Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 01:09 Bibbit wrote: On July 20 2011 23:15 SaetZero wrote: I read this, saw your hive and i was like "2 base hive? what the..?"
interesting to say the least haha. glad your enjoying bw. is d level typical of this, or is it a little more highly skilled normally? i know the last time i was on iccup, it was crazy hit and miss. some people were awful, some were pretty good. ><
Really you only have to pass like 1200-1300 points to find people who have a pretty good idea of build orders and how a particular match up is supposed to look from start to finish. Mostly just bad at executing it. On July 21 2011 00:30 ]343[ wrote: On July 20 2011 19:46 3FFA wrote:Ok just read your other 2 BRs. I have proxy hatch replays if you want to see. Proxy hatch = most hilarious cheese in the world. "Creep? What creep?!? There ain't no creep in my base!" + Show Spoiler +"There ain't any fire extinguishers either"  Also, are you pokerface? o.o
speaking of proxy hatch... "why drone here"? hahaha OP: nice try haha. maybe try a 3 base ultra rush instead? or at least 3 hatch?
Yeah that would certainly make more sense. >_>
Why am I ignored?  . Also, check out the proxy hatch guide  . You can always go proxy hatch into ultra rush 
No ignore! I've done enough proxy hatches to have some idea what I'm doing though. But still, what is this proxy hatch guide? :/
Also, though I agree proxy hatch into ultra rush would be badass as all hell I dont know if it could be done. I do my hatchery rushes in their main and I really need my hatch at a second gas if I'm gonna be ultra rushing. I guess I could just take his natural or something. ^^ But that would just encourage things like drops and siege tanks which you really dont want to deal with when ultra rushing. Idk. TT
Edit: On July 21 2011 01:27 JYS wrote: Great blog. Always checking the blog section for another one of these. Stopped lurking to show appreciation.
This makes me feel warm and fuzzy, Welcome to TL!Last edit: 2011-07-21 02:24:22 |
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| obesechicken13 United States. July 21 2011 06:16. Posts 4336 | Profile Blog # |
I realized when I saw you talk about the hive and thought "what unit goes well with upgrades...possibly lots of armor upgrades."
2base ultra wouldn't be that silly if you had the gas to support it... otherwise you just have a lot of leftover minerals and not enough larva to make lings with them. |
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