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| Count9 China. October 10 2011 04:59. Posts 3690 | Profile Blog # |
Hey, I was just wondering what I have to do to drop around 30 pounds in 1.5 months? Or if that's just way too much to be healthy, what would be the most amount of weight I can drop healthily in that time frame and what do I have to do in terms of diet and workouts?
My current workout is 4 cardio workouts (jogging turns sprinting straights on a track) for 45 minutes and 3 cardio (same as above) for 30 minutes + weight training and 3 3 hr+ tennis games sprinkled into a week. I've been waking up early to do the workouts and the tennis games are usually in the afternoon. However, after a month of this I feel the results are a bit slow, I've only lost about 10ish pounds and I'm not sure how much of that is water. (probably a lot) I didn't adjust my diet.
I feel I can at most wake up another 30 minutes early to make the workouts 90 min total so I could do 90 min cardio 4 days and 45 min cardio + weigh training 3 days with 3 tennis games a week and start eat a lot less, will that help me make my goal?
Back story if you're interested:
I've played tennis quite competitively in high school, playing any amateur tournaments that were within my driving distance and what not. Since college I've been getting out of shape, I still play, just not with the same frequency and definitely not at the same level. A month ago one of my best friends who was my doubles partner back in high school invited me over to his house for winter break, he also mentioned there was a week long tennis tourney that coincided with this visit if I wanted to play, so of course I said yes. (haven't played tennis with him for a couple years now) I know he's been playing all throughout college though and know I've fallen behind so starting a month ago I've been playing 3 times a week and working out to catch up and so when we play it'll actually be competitive and fun.
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 JingleHell United States. October 10 2011 05:03. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
Uhm, most forms of inflammatory bowel disease will do it. Barring that, other unhealthy shit. Various amphetamines and derivatives, for example, and eating disorders. So no, there's not a good way. I'd suggest hitting up the health and fitness sub-forum for good advice.
+ Show Spoiler +The stupid way is to layer heavy clothes until you're warm under them and go running to sweat a metric shitload. The issue is, you only lose water weight this way if you force dehydrate in the process, and it can put you in the hospital or kill you. |
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| whiteLotus October 10 2011 05:04. Posts 1687 | Profile Blog # |
| It's impossible...unless you cut off both legs. Realistically, you can lose 2 pounds per week if you have enough fat stored. But your body will not allow you to drop 30 in a month, or else we'd all be skinny! Last edit: 2011-10-10 05:06:28 |
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| benjammin United States. October 10 2011 05:05. Posts 2728 | Profile Blog # |
as a general rule losing more than a pound a week is not going to be healthy or sustainable, most diets that result in quick weight losses are going to result in quicker weight gains..
i'd adjust your diet (high protein, low carbs, low fat) and keep the cardio up, that's the tried-and-true way to do it |
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| Sorter United States. October 10 2011 05:05. Posts 170 | Profile # |
30 pounds in 1 and a half months sounds nearly impossible. (Unless you starve yourself, haha)
Aim for 2 to 3 pounds a week, so you could ultimately lose 18-20 pounds but it would still be very difficult. If you haven't changed your diet at all, you really should. There are a lot of interesting takes on diet, so I would be cautious when trying a new diet if it seems gimmicky. Good luck!
Here's a good general guide that has helped me in the past: http://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/lose-weight-fast-how-to-do-it-safelyLast edit: 2011-10-10 05:09:20 |
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| Exal Denmark. October 10 2011 05:07. Posts 34 | Profile # |
Dropping this kind of weight is possible, but it's not good for you and after you attain the weight loss it will be an uphill battle to keep it 'cause your body will be trying to return to homeostasis.
The best thing you can do is take the weight loss slow... I know it's probably not what you want to hear.
Other then that just start cutting more and more food out of your diet, keep high protein foods etc. make sure you don't cut out essential fats. Keep doing this until you till you feel you don't have energy through out the day and then add a bit of energy to your diet and you should be at the point where you will lose weight slowly(unless you want to count calories)
And don't overdo the cardio, you will end up burning yourself out after a few months if you overwork yourself from the start |
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| L_Master United States. October 10 2011 05:13. Posts 3479 | Profile Blog # |
On October 10 2011 04:59 Count9 wrote:
Hey, I was just wondering what I have to do to drop around 30 pounds in 1.5 months? Or if that's just way too much to be healthy, what would be the most amount of weight I can drop healthily in that time frame and what do I have to do in terms of diet and workouts?
My current workout is 4 cardio workouts (jogging turns sprinting straights on a track) for 45 minutes and 3 cardio (same as above) for 30 minutes + weight training and 3 3 hr+ tennis games sprinkled into a week. I've been waking up early to do the workouts and the tennis games are usually in the afternoon. However, after a month of this I feel the results are a bit slow, I've only lost about 10ish pounds and I'm not sure how much of that is water. (probably a lot) I didn't adjust my diet.
I feel I can at most wake up another 30 minutes early to make the workouts 90 min total so I could do 90 min cardio 4 days and 45 min cardio + weigh training 3 days with 3 tennis games a week and start eat a lot less, will that help me make my goal?
Back story if you're interested:
I've played tennis quite competitively in high school, playing any amateur tournaments that were within my driving distance and what not. Since college I've been getting out of shape, I still play, just not with the same frequency and definitely not at the same level. A month ago one of my best friends who was my doubles partner back in high school invited me over to his house for winter break, he also mentioned there was a week long tennis tourney that coincided with this visit if I wanted to play, so of course I said yes. (haven't played tennis with him for a couple years now) I know he's been playing all throughout college though and know I've fallen behind so starting a month ago I've been playing 3 times a week and working out to catch up and so when we play it'll actually be competitive and fun.
In a healthy manner? 15 pounds max.
30 pounds in basically 6 to 7 weeks would be insanely unhealthy and borderline impossible. You'd be looking at about 5 pounds per week, which would be a 2500 calorie per day deficit. So in order to lose weight at this rate you would need to eat NOTHING and run about 5-6 miles a day. If you wanted to eat a tiny amount of food (1000 calories a day) you'd be looking at perhaps 10-13 miles per day, which isn't too crazy, but trying to do that off that minuscule amount of food certainly would be. This assumes your body doesn't start to go into starvation mode and decrease you base metabolic rate to compensate. |
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| Kurr Canada. October 10 2011 05:15. Posts 2180 | Profile Blog # |
30 pounds in 90 days is absolutely unhealthy. In general, you should aim to lose like 10% of your current weight over several months if you want to follow guidelines. It's a bit strict in my opinion but 30 is still a lot.
To lose weight, eat well. Consult a nutritionist if you don't know what that means, otherwise eat a lot of vegetables and get only the calories and proteins you need.
Do cardio like you're already doing... walk or jog a lot.
Losing weight is not really that hard. I've lost around 10 pounds over the last month despite still eating a bit of junk food (mostly icecream, why is it so fucking delicious) and doing minimal exercise (IE just walking from home to university a few times a day every day, but not actually doing cardio). If I was 100% motivated to lose weight, with a proper diet and exercise, I could've lost like 20 pounds without a gigantic effort. Of course, it also matters at what weight you start.
Most important part is what you eat. Otherwise, be patient. You sound like you're already in semi-good shape. Just be consistent with your workout and diet and you'll lose the weight, even if it doesn't end up being 30 pounds in 90 days. |
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| QuanticHawk United States. October 10 2011 05:15. Posts 21194 | Profile Blog # |
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| rezzan Sweden. October 10 2011 05:19. Posts 293 | Profile # |
I lost 21KG ( 32 lbs? ) under 1 month.
but then i got some syndromes about loosing weight so i always lose weight.. can lose like 5 KG (6lbs) a week at most.
went from 85kg to 79kg from last week. and i eat normally. so yeah.. constantly loosing weight 
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| Stijx United States. October 10 2011 05:21. Posts 786 | Profile Blog # |
| Honestly man, just get to running and lifting weights. Do it regularly and eat light... those pounds will drop off you. |
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| Sleight October 10 2011 05:23. Posts 1042 | Profile Blog # |
On October 10 2011 04:59 Count9 wrote:
Hey, I was just wondering what I have to do to drop around 30 pounds in 1.5 months? Or if that's just way too much to be healthy, what would be the most amount of weight I can drop healthily in that time frame and what do I have to do in terms of diet and workouts?
My current workout is 4 cardio workouts (jogging turns sprinting straights on a track) for 45 minutes and 3 cardio (same as above) for 30 minutes + weight training and 3 3 hr+ tennis games sprinkled into a week. I've been waking up early to do the workouts and the tennis games are usually in the afternoon. However, after a month of this I feel the results are a bit slow, I've only lost about 10ish pounds and I'm not sure how much of that is water. (probably a lot) I didn't adjust my diet.
I feel I can at most wake up another 30 minutes early to make the workouts 90 min total so I could do 90 min cardio 4 days and 45 min cardio + weigh training 3 days with 3 tennis games a week and start eat a lot less, will that help me make my goal?
Back story if you're interested:
I've played tennis quite competitively in high school, playing any amateur tournaments that were within my driving distance and what not. Since college I've been getting out of shape, I still play, just not with the same frequency and definitely not at the same level. A month ago one of my best friends who was my doubles partner back in high school invited me over to his house for winter break, he also mentioned there was a week long tennis tourney that coincided with this visit if I wanted to play, so of course I said yes. (haven't played tennis with him for a couple years now) I know he's been playing all throughout college though and know I've fallen behind so starting a month ago I've been playing 3 times a week and working out to catch up and so when we play it'll actually be competitive and fun.
About to get my M.D., so take it for whatever it is worth to you.
When a human loses body mass at a rate faster than about 15% per year (assuming weight loss projected steadily outwards), even acutely, there is a protective decrease in metabolic rate. Now this decrease is larger in cases of calorie restriction more than thru exercise (and yes, your body can tell the difference), but it happens in both cases. So we advised people to lose about 1lb/week because 1) most people can only keep that up for a month or two and 2) it is a fair experimentally supported rate at which metabolism decreases, but not so much to prevent further weight loss.
If you are interested in losing FAT, you can lose FAT much quicker, by compensating with weight training and building muscle mass. This actually increases your metabolic rate quite successfully after a few weeks. So if you were to stay the same weight but trade 15 lbs of fat for muscle (which is quiiiiite a bit) first, your metabolism would increase non-trivially, making it easier to remove unwanted body fat primarily later.
You seem to be wanting to get in shape more than just lose fat, so I would recommend decreasing your streneous cardio (which believe it or not, makes it verrrrrrrry hard for your body to put on muscle mass after you reach a high volume of strenuous exertion), and increasing your weight training sessions. If you'd like to msg me your height and weight, I can offer more pointed advice, but IN GENERAL, get in shape by maintaining your weighht and trade fat for muscle is the most medically safe and fastest "weight loss" method.
Trying to focus on cardio as the dominant weight loss method is actually not as successful for volume of fat lost, and results in siginficant decreases to BMR in the volumes you are doing it for MOST people. You very quickly start to see protein in the urine, even some rhabdo (muscle loss), and weight loss even stalls after 3-4 weeks.
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| JeeJee Canada. October 10 2011 05:27. Posts 5327 | Profile Blog # |
Well, it's very simple
Let's assume 2lb is water weight, because, why not? (and it makes math easier)
So 28lb in 7 weeks, or 4 lb/week. that's about a 14,000 kcal deficit per week (since a pound of fat is about 3,500kcal) or a 2,000kcal deficit daily.
So if right now you're maintaining your weight, you're eating at your maintenance level (makes sense, right). Assuming you're eating 2,000kcal per day right now, all you have to do is not eat for 7 weeks.
Good luck.
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| JingleHell United States. October 10 2011 05:31. Posts 11262 | Profile Blog # |
| I've lost 40 pounds in a month before. I ended up in the hospital and almost died, then got diagnosed with crohn's disease. There's no healthy way to lose weight that fast. |
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| Terranist United States. October 10 2011 05:33. Posts 2284 | Profile Blog # |
On October 10 2011 05:21 Stijx wrote:
Honestly man, just get to running and lifting weights. Do it regularly and eat light... those pounds will drop off you.
wouldn't lifting weights actually make him gain weight in a 1.5 month period? |
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| fruchtzergeis October 10 2011 05:34. Posts 64 | Profile # |
max 500 calorie deficit=>max 0.5kg/week drop is healthy
keep in mind that your body will adjust to lower calorie intake, which will slow down metabolism. so do sports every day and don't drop too fast |
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| Luepert United States. October 10 2011 05:36. Posts 1698 | Profile Blog # |
| Probably if you don't eat AT ALL, you could get it done. |
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| rezzan Sweden. October 10 2011 05:37. Posts 293 | Profile # |
| best tips is to defecate it all,LOL |
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| L_Master United States. October 10 2011 05:39. Posts 3479 | Profile Blog # |
On October 10 2011 05:33 Terranist wrote:
Show nested quote +On October 10 2011 05:21 Stijx wrote:
Honestly man, just get to running and lifting weights. Do it regularly and eat light... those pounds will drop off you.
wouldn't lifting weights actually make him gain weight in a 1.5 month period?
Who knows?
It depends entirely on the eating. If he were to eat the same calories as he burned, he would gain no weight though his body composition would likely change. If he ate less calories than he burned he would still lose weight, regardless of lifting, though as with before the lifting would likely influence the body composition.
Trying to focus on cardio as the dominant weight loss method is actually not as successful for volume of fat lost, and results in siginficant decreases to BMR in the volumes you are doing it for MOST people. You very quickly start to see protein in the urine, even some rhabdo (muscle loss), and weight loss even stalls after 3-4 weeks.
I assume you mean this in a statistical sense as in many people experience these things if they focus on cardio as the main method for weight loss. As someone who lost his weight almost entirely through cardio I certainly didn't have problems such as significant muscle loss or stalling of weight loss. That said, I do agree with the premise of favoring strength training over heavy cardio for weight loss both because of the benefits to body composition and the advantages you already espoused. However, I don't feel cardio should be cut entirely, 3-4 light sessions per week is still a good thing for most people.
You seem to be wanting to get in shape more than just lose fat, so I would recommend decreasing your streneous cardio (which believe it or not, makes it verrrrrrrry hard for your body to put on muscle mass after you reach a high volume of strenuous exertion), and increasing your weight training sessions. If you'd like to msg me your height and weight, I can offer more pointed advice, but IN GENERAL, get in shape by maintaining your weighht and trade fat for muscle is the most medically safe and fastest "weight loss" method.
Very true. That said, I doubt the OP is even going to get in a nearby neighboorhood of high volume. Other than dedicated endurance athletes trying to get faster there are very, very few people who actually do high volume of endurance exercise. I'd be suprised if 1 in 10,000 people, who aren't focused on being fast runners/bikers/etc., are doing anything that resembles high volume.
That said, I will emphasize that I agree with pretty much of all of what you say. If your looking for body composition change and good health, a weight oriented approach with modest endurance exercise is the best path.Last edit: 2011-10-10 05:50:01 |
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| rezzan Sweden. October 10 2011 05:45. Posts 293 | Profile # |
best tips is google after a nice weight lifting traning pass and buy some drinks that gives calories, and lift weight 3 times a week and run 2 times a week and eat healty- you will gain weight, BUT it will be muscles and you'll look sexy 
thats what i and me brother did, 6 months and we were awesome ! |
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