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| nekoconeco Australia. January 31 2012 21:53. Posts 359 | Profile Blog # |
I remember my Physics teacher saying something along the lines of "sometimes you will reach hoops in your education that you have no choice but force yourself to jump through." Basically if the education system says you have to jump you just have to jump. There is no point in arguing about it since you can't change the system from the outside. Granted it doesn't hurt to vent your frustration from time to time...  |
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| theBALLS Singapore. January 31 2012 21:53. Posts 2103 | Profile Blog # |
On January 31 2012 21:51 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 21:46 Ryukku wrote:
I have come to accept it =S. It was my defensive mechanism to fit in during school. If you speak properly / with an accent, you are the main target of bullying =(.
Better not turn on your TV right now, the noose is on. Horribad show i tell ya
well, the noose is the only entertaining show that singaporeans can produce...
I actually just wrote an article about how horrible our local TV is and submitted it to ST. However as expected they don't have the balls to publish it. |
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| Azera Singapore. January 31 2012 21:54. Posts 3376 | Profile Blog # |
On January 31 2012 21:53 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 21:51 HaruRH wrote:
On January 31 2012 21:46 Ryukku wrote:
I have come to accept it =S. It was my defensive mechanism to fit in during school. If you speak properly / with an accent, you are the main target of bullying =(.
Better not turn on your TV right now, the noose is on. Horribad show i tell ya
well, the noose is the only entertaining show that singaporeans can produce...
I actually just wrote an article about how horrible our local TV is and submitted it to ST. However as expected they don't have the balls to publish it.
Can you send it to me? I would love to read it. |
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| HaruRH Singapore. January 31 2012 21:59. Posts 698 | Profile # |
On January 31 2012 21:53 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 21:51 HaruRH wrote:
On January 31 2012 21:46 Ryukku wrote:
I have come to accept it =S. It was my defensive mechanism to fit in during school. If you speak properly / with an accent, you are the main target of bullying =(.
Better not turn on your TV right now, the noose is on. Horribad show i tell ya
well, the noose is the only entertaining show that singaporeans can produce...
I actually just wrote an article about how horrible our local TV is and submitted it to ST. However as expected they don't have the balls to publish it.
all Mediacorp wants to do is to milk us all. By making dramas only, it appeals to the widest range of audiences and costs the least amount of capital compared to other stuff, such as games shows. Mediacorp just want to earn money lol |
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| Azera Singapore. January 31 2012 22:03. Posts 3376 | Profile Blog # |
On January 31 2012 21:59 HaruRH wrote:
Show nested quote +On January 31 2012 21:53 theBALLS wrote:
On January 31 2012 21:51 HaruRH wrote:
On January 31 2012 21:46 Ryukku wrote:
I have come to accept it =S. It was my defensive mechanism to fit in during school. If you speak properly / with an accent, you are the main target of bullying =(.
Better not turn on your TV right now, the noose is on. Horribad show i tell ya
well, the noose is the only entertaining show that singaporeans can produce...
I actually just wrote an article about how horrible our local TV is and submitted it to ST. However as expected they don't have the balls to publish it.
all Mediacorp wants to do is to milk us all. By making dramas only, it appeals to the widest range of audiences and costs the least amount of capital compared to other stuff, such as games shows. Mediacorp just want to earn money lol
I can't believe all the new dramas that they have on Channel 8 / 5 now. It's so repetitive and if you actually pay attention, they're all rip-offs of each other! |
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| Aando January 31 2012 22:04. Posts 587 | Profile # |
| I would have loved to be in a competitive class when I was growing up. The school system here is a fucking joke, sure it's free but still a joke. The teachers barely know what they teach and "You're not better than anyone else" is bashed into your skull until you believes it. |
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| Biane Australia. January 31 2012 22:09. Posts 619 | Profile # |
| God I feel your pain, though it was probably worse for me as I was failing Chinese when I was at that age in addition to only doing average. Lucky for me I got out of the ratrace in time. I love Singapore, and though I wouldn't do NS again for anything in the world, I wouldn't deny its a memorable part of my life experiences. But my time in Primary and Secondary school was just pure hell that I would rather just forget about. |
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| DarkPlasmaBall United States. January 31 2012 22:24. Posts 19998 | Profile Blog # |
Singapore consistently ranks towards the top in education (globally), and so you've gotta be competitive to be the best!  |
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| FractalsOnFire Australia. January 31 2012 22:29. Posts 1300 | Profile Blog # |
| Come to Australia, competition is chump compared to those Asian countries. |
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| Mobius_1 United Kingdom. January 31 2012 22:32. Posts 2719 | Profile Blog # |
Topics like this make me so glad I got out of the (China's, in my case) system and joined in the super chill and relaxed UK system.
Of course, my one regret is that I didn't dedicate all that spare time back then to something useful like Brood War instead of playing FIFA all day long. |
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| Cool Cat United States. January 31 2012 22:34. Posts 605 | Profile # |
| The education in America is nowhere near as difficult, except perhaps in elite private institutions and few extremely competitive public high schools. |
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| nihoh Australia. January 31 2012 22:41. Posts 937 | Profile Blog # |
Why don't you just condense (in your drafts) the question to "Discuss the advantages and disadvantages of nuclear energy in Singapore?"
Then pepper with references and findings and figures from papers from the databases suggested by previous posters? That's the easy way of churning out an essay/project, maybe harder for a 15 year old to see that.. |
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| ElusoryX Singapore. January 31 2012 22:42. Posts 1932 | Profile Blog # |
Enjoy studying, no matter how shit your projects are. I'm going into the army in 2 days time. No more SC2 (consistently) for two years  |
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| Phayze Canada. January 31 2012 22:47. Posts 2017 | Profile Blog # |
On January 31 2012 22:04 Aando wrote:
I would have loved to be in a competitive class when I was growing up. The school system here is a fucking joke, sure it's free but still a joke. The teachers barely know what they teach and "You're not better than anyone else" is bashed into your skull until you believes it.
I agree, I would love to have seen if that would have had any effect on my education growing up. I think I would have been much more academic if grades turned into a competition. It's not like I didnt do well in school it's just a neat thought as I definitely did some opportune slacking. I consistently prioritized certain aspects of each course to get the highest mark with the least amount of effort (Which ironically turns out to be exactly what you have to do in uni anyways...).Last edit: 2012-01-31 22:49:26 |
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| igotmyown United States. January 31 2012 23:04. Posts 2900 | Profile Blog # |
The question is what happens to the students that don't do so well? Presumably they don't get consumed by competitiveness, because the state gives up spending resources on them. A state with limited resources is better off focusing its resources on the best students (collecting them together helps). How do they know who the best students are? Tests and such. Do they miss out on some talent? Probably, but you know the students who score well have a high chance of being capable.
The American system of public education, there's a responsibility to provide an adequate education to everyone. Some students might learn more, but there's an expected level of education going into colleges, and the colleges remedy deficiencies by having a required curriculum.
The philosophy seems to be, make sure everyone has a reasonable opportunity for education in primary school. The smarter ones will naturally tend to do well. A lot of US presidents just tended to be the guys who were just easily good at everything, including sports, leaderships roles, and so on, and from my observations this seems to be the attitude that colleges take in caring about extracurricular activities.
So then the US colleges recruit/accept your smart students through the admissions process. It's stressful for students, but overall there are enough good colleges that smart students will end up at a good one, even if it's not the one their looking for. And even if they don't, a smart student with some initiative will shine at a mediocre college and get into a good graduate school (there are many graduate students from state schools even at elite universities).
Not all of the students will work out, but the US often has enough resources to accommodate them and let them pursue some other, perhaps more personally enriching (art? literature?) or useful (journalism? accounting?) degree.
Competitive parents/states seem to want to mold super students. But maybe a lot of initiative and intelligence is something you're born with, and the job of the US college system is to find these diamonds in the rough, and the public school system is to give them a chance to shine while educating everyone with what an "educated person" should know.
Personally, I think this over-competition is the result of people trying to manipulate the system to divert extra resources to themselves. This Singaporean system, these advanced courses don't really sound like they want to educate you so much as test you to see how you handle these courses. Of course the students that handle those well are statistically more likely to handle the next level.
In an ideal system, with enough resources, all smart students will be identified and provided opportunity. There's no point in competing for it, or learning a subject that much earlier, if by the end of your Masters program everyone will have learned everything they need to learn for their field of research.
A lot of my classmates in college, like me, went to public schools, and classes were pretty easy for us. So a lot of us learned more on our own, whether through college classes, contest projects, or just personal interest. Maybe our college chose us because we were the ones who felt like doing it.
And at least for research, doing it for the sake of competition instead of personal interest means you're more likely to burn out and lose interest. But maybe in a competitive system you never hear about these "failures", and if you only have space for 100 chemists, who cares about the potential you wasted?
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Another thought,
In other countries, education might be seen as an opportunity to improve your life. In the United States, businesses earn far more than PhDs, so being mediocre in school but having fantastic communication skills can be more lucrative than vice versa, so all that effort in school might turn out to be a waste of time.
Even if you don't become a businessman, the amount of academic knowledge you need for a corporate job isn't that high, and there will be a lot then you learn on the job that you will never learn in school. Also, your success often depends on your ability to work well with other people, which might have been more to do with talking to classmates than studying.
For example, there's been a steady increase in the gap between job openings for PhDs and the number of domestic PhDs (although I'm not sure if that's true after the crash). There have also been studies that getting a PhD on average lowers the amount of money you earn, because you spend 4+ years earning a minimal stipend. |
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| stkblee Singapore. January 31 2012 23:08. Posts 62 | Profile # |
On January 31 2012 22:42 ElusoryX wrote:Enjoy studying, no matter how shit your projects are. I'm going into the army in 2 days time. No more SC2 (consistently) for two years
Dont worry, I am in the army for 1 year, and I still can play SC2 everyday. Dont give up hope!
To OP: I guess advice from me would be to draw from the many case studies to support your argument. My experience has been the more case studies (which can be wikied), the better. |
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| Robinsa Japan. January 31 2012 23:15. Posts 1320 | Profile # |
On January 31 2012 21:08 Catch]22 wrote:
Does it matter if its unreasonable? Its the way it is, thats it.
Well Sweden is the opposite. Do nothing and get good grades. I think the future of Singapore is a lot brighter because of their proper education. |
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konadora  Singapore. January 31 2012 23:16. Posts 44546 | Profile Blog # |
just wait until you get to junior college ROFL
and then UNIVERSITY LOLOLOL
seriously just enjoy secondary school, it's the best period in your life |
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| JMave Singapore. January 31 2012 23:26. Posts 1754 | Profile Blog # |
On January 31 2012 22:42 ElusoryX wrote:Enjoy studying, no matter how shit your projects are. I'm going into the army in 2 days time. No more SC2 (consistently) for two years
enjoy it man. even though you don't have that much time for yourself, home is home and work is work. you never bring work home. when you are outside, all the time there is yours and the only thing you have to worry about it going back. |
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| Railxp Hong Kong. January 31 2012 23:27. Posts 1309 | Profile Blog # |
| i believe the fancy title prompt only wants you to make a for/against stand regarding nuclear energy use in Singapore? In which case it's just a skim/regurgitation process of pro/anti nuclear arguments, sprinkled in with some local political/geographical nuances. I wouldn't be surprise if you can find a nuclear debate thread on TL and just paraphrase some people, and add it some statistics / semi-reliable website sources. |
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