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The Bomber Effect and PvT

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 1st_Panzer_Div.   United States. May 10 2012 07:24. Posts 621
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Edit: Wrote it on my phone, which is why it was apparently unreadable, also it was rambling like and too long. Shorter:

Startale Protoss kick ass at PvT, to an insane degree, nearly double the win % in this season of GSL for PvT over all other Protosses.

Why? Because despite Bomber never getting good tourney results, he has amazing macro. Now think about Squirtle's and Parting's PvT late game, it is probably because they get to practice against Bomber so much.
Last edit: 2012-05-10 07:51:48
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 Legion710   Canada. May 10 2012 07:26. Posts 422
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nvm.
Last edit: 2012-05-10 07:26:31
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 Cokefreak   Finland. May 10 2012 07:28. Posts 5662
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Read only half way thru so far, incredibly annoying how you write "he'S" with the capital S -.-
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 Braric   Canada. May 10 2012 07:28. Posts 184
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I think you have to also factor in ST Hack as a major reason for their success as both Khalador and Naniwa have vouched for his strengths in the TvP match up having a 70% win loss.
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 VirgilSC2   United States. May 10 2012 07:28. Posts 5743
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I stopped right after you mentioned Leenock was on the same team as NesTea and MVP.

Did you by chance combine some sort of study drug with an energy drink? My friend did that yesterday and he ranted about ravens and railguns for about an hour.
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 Canucklehead   Canada. May 10 2012 07:29. Posts 3590
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Does this study conclude that bomber is a practice bonjwa?
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 Klamity   United States. May 10 2012 07:32. Posts 967
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does your shift key randomly get stuck?
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 Th1rdEye   United States. May 10 2012 07:32. Posts 809
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Lol all assumptions. How do you really know who practices with who, and how many games they play? Lol..

This is hilarious how you took the time to look into stats and come up with some theory lol..

Maybe those players are JUST GOOD AT PVT?
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 mahi29   United States. May 10 2012 07:33. Posts 235
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Interesting perspective. Can't comment on how true it is but interesting nonetheless. But whats up with our capitalization? Random letters/words here and there? If you're trying to emphasize something perhaps italics or underlining the word.
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 Hiea   Denmark. May 10 2012 07:33. Posts 1496
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When a team have greater players of X race, the other players on the team become really good against X's race.
 
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 reikai   United States. May 10 2012 07:34. Posts 307
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On May 10 2012 07:29 Canucklehead wrote:
Does this study conclude that bomber is a practice bonjwa?


I think this is roughly what he's saying; maybe something along the lines of a SC2 level Puma (when Puma was THE practice partner of BW)

TL;DR: Bomber loses a lot because of his inconsistency, but is super good, and therefore his protoss teammates get the best practice partners and rape everybody PvT?

I think I'm close.
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 Black Gun   Germany. May 10 2012 07:34. Posts 3860
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unconvincing and messy arguments. lack of knowledge about which player is on which team. annoying spelling.
unworthy thread. write it again, I think it could be interesting if you put more effort into it.
Last edit: 2012-05-10 07:35:25
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
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 TokO   Norway. May 10 2012 07:36. Posts 236
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Artosis mentioned on SoTG that whenever a team had a strong player, the teammates would become really good at playing that race.

E.g. MaruPrime and CreatorPrime both has very strong TvT and PvT respectively, and that might be attributed to the presence of MKP.

MvpKeen taking out Nestea, and MvpGenius'es powerful PvZ could be attributed to the presence of DRG.
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 Grampz   United States. May 10 2012 07:36. Posts 2066
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I said it since the dawn of bomber and the reign of Terr(or)an, Bomber is the most talented player not to win a GSL. He had like an 80% win record overall at one point... And not making a ro4 ( correct me if i'm wrong ) is just nuts...
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 Black Gun   Germany. May 10 2012 07:38. Posts 3860
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On May 10 2012 07:36 Grampz wrote:
I said it since the dawn of bomber and the reign of Terr(or)an, Bomber is the most talented player not to win a GSL. He had like an 80% win record overall at one point... And not making a ro4 ( correct me if i'm wrong ) is just nuts...



I think a major issue with bomber is that his playstyle is innantely instable. he is cutting many corners in the early game to get a huge eco going into long macro games, which is part of why he is so strong there. but this also means that he`s vulnerable to early- or midgame attacks.

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"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
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 Dontkillme   Korea (South). May 10 2012 07:39. Posts 620
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Dat Bomber. Bomber <3
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 homeless_guy   United States. May 10 2012 07:40. Posts 321
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*yawn*

doesn't this belong in a fanclub thread?
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 Divine-Sneaker   Denmark. May 10 2012 07:44. Posts 786
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Unreadable.

Bomber is pretty decent though.
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 Skaminator   May 10 2012 07:45. Posts 105
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Bomber my fav terran, but he broke my heart so many times. I think he has potential to be one of the best terrans if he starts being consistent.
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 HelloSon   United States. May 10 2012 07:46. Posts 387
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On May 10 2012 07:32 Klamity wrote:
does your shift key randomly get stuck?

definitely curious about this too.
yo
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