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| Itsmedudeman United States. May 29 2012 05:39. Posts 8514 | Profile Blog # |
You could say I was surprised to hear all the outcry and whine from d3 players after the game's release. On the first day I had a blast. Playing with 3 other friends running through the game for the first time, messing with 50 different skills while leveling up, I thought the leveling system was perfect and well paced. Every level you got something new and you were free to try it out, there was no boredom, and the game was easy enough at that point to do so. Then it gets progressively harder, making you think about your builds, customizing, testing, and all of its free. As far as gameplay goes it's also a much bigger improvement upon d2. You get up to 6 spells, can customize them differently, and the fights are just much more fun as well as challenging.
So what are people complaining about? I'll make a list and reply.
1. The auction house sucks
This is true. I can't really refute that, and I've been frustrated by its incosistency as much as the next guy. However, realize that diablo 3 is a very highly economical game. If you're not farming, you're selling; if you're not selling, you're buying. You have millions of people on the same region selling and buying constantly at the same time. There's no way they could've tested this in the beta, they just had to fix it as they went along. Despite all the bugs, errors, downtime, I'll take that any day 50x over to play across regions with my friends whether they're east coast, west coast, canada, australia, whatever. Meet your old time friend who wants to play? Oops, wrong server, gotta restart all over again in d2!
2. Inferno is too hard
I like this aspect. The game has only been out for 2 weeks. There needs to be some sort of challenge and I look forward to being able to do it as my gear gets gradually better and better. What's the point of getting gear if you can 1 shot everything or you don't die to it anyway? I don't want to hear about how the game is too hard when you're sitting at 500k gold worth of gear. Get back to me with 20 mill in gear. Your stats increase exponentially in this game, not statically.
3. Inferno is too easy
Only through exploits/nerfed stuff in the past. The bosses are a bit easy, but I think belial/diablo are plenty difficult atm. I have no problem with other quest mobs/uniques being easy though. They're meant to be.
4. Class balance sucks
Of course it sucks. Did you really expect end game to be perfectly balanced after the game came out? In either case, they've said they're keeping a watch on it, but I actually hope they don't change too much like they usually do. It just ends up making another class overpowered.
5. Items suck
Some of the legendaries certainly are disappointing, as well as there being no + skill system or anything, but I like how the rares are so different and unique. It lets you build your characters the way you want to for a specific build. So far for wizard I've seen crit/crit dmg, attack speed, melee, etc. Also let me just say that your gear is shit, and it's been 2 weeks. Ever play d2 ladder after 2 weeks? Minus the mass botting how many enigmas are going around? They're unaffordable. As the game goes on 3 mill will be the new 500k I guarantee you.
6. Characters are too cookie cutter
At inferno yeah, although so far all the wizards I see have vastly different builds. They were too in diablo 2 when you were trying to do key runs. Let's see you beat all that shit with any old shit build you made on any old character cause I'd love to see it. Hell, a lot of time you had to make a character from scratch to do so, it just wasn't possible on some. Also, they're working on balance. In a month the builds won't be the same at all, and certain builds need good items as well.
7. Blacksmithing sucks
Lol. Keep thinking that, just makes my mats cheaper. Btw I'm buying a lot of exquisite essences pm me.
I honestly cannot fathom the people who thought diablo 2 was more fun. MFing was so shit and boring it just wasn't worth running. I'll admit it, I ran a bot for a few days, and I got maybe 2 worthwhile items (yeah, shaco's don't count you poor bastards). If you stack too much MF you just get useless shit. My one complaint is that playing with 3-4 people in inferno just sucks. Idk how it'll be in the future, but they need to change the scaling of drops or difficulty so that its worthwhile. I want to play with friends, not single player.All in all, I'll probably be playing for 2 more months before I get bored/have everything, although with the RMAH who knows. Last edit: 2012-05-29 05:47:57
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| MonkSEA Australia. May 29 2012 06:01. Posts 1161 | Profile Blog # |
I've only just finished it and dabbled a little in Nightmare, I have to say the only thing that sucks for me is the complete randomness of loot. A barbarian only belt with intelligence? A demon hunter only crossbow with strength?
I wish the loot stats were a little more specific to the actually loot type rather then just fingers crossed. |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. May 29 2012 06:01. Posts 8514 | Profile Blog # |
| Yeah, I don't get that either. The class items outside the offhands seem pretty pointless to me. |
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| Catch]22 Sweden. May 29 2012 06:02. Posts 2340 | Profile Blog # |
| Game is great, people just like to whine and complain. |
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| Parametric Canada. May 29 2012 06:09. Posts 568 | Profile # |
On May 29 2012 05:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
7. Blacksmithing sucks
Lol. Keep thinking that, just makes my mats cheaper. Btw I'm buying a lot of exquisite essences pm me.
Delete from post nao.
I can't wait until commodities are back up. Probably gonna burn a mill or 2 on essences and tears |
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| Cokefreak Finland. May 29 2012 06:10. Posts 5662 | Profile # |
| I think some people hate it because it's not Diablo 2, just like some people hate SC2 because it's not BW. The rest are mostly just kids feeling entitled to 'something better' because they were born in the 90's. Then there is a small minority of people who actually have a legitimate reason for hating D3 but nobody cares about those people because they are a minority. |
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| PanN United States. May 29 2012 06:11. Posts 2603 | Profile # |
| So many topics between here and other frequented sites on whether the game sucks or not. Soooooo many. |
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| OpticalShot Canada. May 29 2012 06:20. Posts 5929 | Profile Blog # |
Dude I've seen you around in the wiz discussion forum, yeah wiz4lyfe! *brofist*
I think another problem is that people expect the "fun" to be spoon-fed to them. Too many casuals thinking their measly 500k gear (as you mentioned) should be enough to beat all difficulties. Inferno should be reserved for the elites among elites, not only with good gear but with good sense of what skill combinations work best for particular situations.
Lately I'm having a lot of fun doing inferno Butcher farming with friends, having two monks and a barb tanking for you makes life of a wizzy an easy one =D |
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| empty.bottle May 29 2012 06:20. Posts 627 | Profile # |
The epicness of getting to lvl 99 is gone.
Personally I don't see the point in keep playing after beating Inferno.
EDIT:No one hates sc2 because it's not BW btw...Last edit: 2012-05-29 06:22:12 |
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| Catch]22 Sweden. May 29 2012 06:34. Posts 2340 | Profile Blog # |
On May 29 2012 06:20 empty.bottle wrote:
The epicness of getting to lvl 99 is gone.
Personally I don't see the point in keep playing after beating Inferno.
EDIT:No one hates sc2 because it's not BW btw...
What is the point of playing after 99 then?
Beating inferno without any of the broken builds that Bliz is nerfing might get you more excited.
And yes, plenty of people hate Sc2 simply because its not BW.
Lists of three are great |
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| Disposition1989 Canada. May 29 2012 06:35. Posts 262 | Profile Blog # |
| i dont know exactly how pvp is gonna work but for how insanely impossible inferno is gonna be for the casuals, how will they even come close to being able to pvp? in d2, you could have near the top level gear but not neckbeard perfect and still hold your own in duels. it sounds like the gap between the wow guild crossovers and the casual is gonna be too much for fair pvp. thats my biggest concern about the game. d2 for me was about the pvp. go out mf, trade a bit, get 1 more ele gc and go smack around some ww barbs. some of d3 sucks, some of its good. pvp will make or break it for me. maybe if they have tiered battles based on your items or skill or whatever it will be fine. inferno is stupid though. white mobs shouldnt 1 hit you. the difficulty of the inferno bosses im fine with but the mobs not so much |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. May 29 2012 06:39. Posts 8514 | Profile Blog # |
On May 29 2012 06:35 Disposition1989 wrote:
i dont know exactly how pvp is gonna work but for how insanely impossible inferno is gonna be for the casuals, how will they even come close to being able to pvp? in d2, you could have near the top level gear but not neckbeard perfect and still hold your own in duels. it sounds like the gap between the wow guild crossovers and the casual is gonna be too much for fair pvp. thats my biggest concern about the game. d2 for me was about the pvp. go out mf, trade a bit, get 1 more ele gc and go smack around some ww barbs. some of d3 sucks, some of its good. pvp will make or break it for me. maybe if they have tiered battles based on your items or skill or whatever it will be fine. inferno is stupid though. white mobs shouldnt 1 hit you. the difficulty of the inferno bosses im fine with but the mobs not so much
Prices drop drastically as the game goes on. If you've played right after a ladder reset you'd know this. The gear that was up for 100k-200k a week ago are now like 30k. You can find 30k through just gold found through act 1 on an inferno run.
Pvp was always about gear in diablo 2. You needed tons of gear and you'd get destroyed by someone who had more money. That's just how it is. |
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| Itsmedudeman United States. May 29 2012 06:40. Posts 8514 | Profile Blog # |
On May 29 2012 06:20 empty.bottle wrote:
The epicness of getting to lvl 99 is gone.
Personally I don't see the point in keep playing after beating Inferno.
EDIT:No one hates sc2 because it's not BW btw...
You do know most of those people were botters right? But I don't really get the epicness of sitting in baalruns 10 hours a day for a month. But I guess apparently some people do. |
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| Vindicare605 United States. May 29 2012 06:59. Posts 6496 | Profile Blog # |
On May 29 2012 06:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 06:20 empty.bottle wrote:
The epicness of getting to lvl 99 is gone.
Personally I don't see the point in keep playing after beating Inferno.
EDIT:No one hates sc2 because it's not BW btw...
You do know most of those people were botters right? But I don't really get the epicness of sitting in baalruns 10 hours a day for a month. But I guess apparently some people do.
Nostalgia makes everything taste better.
Great post btw. |
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| brolaf May 29 2012 07:19. Posts 219 | Profile # |
| Well, its low rating. Its simply not good enough for a lot of people, and is the lowest user rated blizz game of all time(gamespot) |
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| brolaf May 29 2012 07:20. Posts 219 | Profile # |
On May 29 2012 06:59 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 06:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On May 29 2012 06:20 empty.bottle wrote:
The epicness of getting to lvl 99 is gone.
Personally I don't see the point in keep playing after beating Inferno.
EDIT:No one hates sc2 because it's not BW btw...
You do know most of those people were botters right? But I don't really get the epicness of sitting in baalruns 10 hours a day for a month. But I guess apparently some people do.
Nostalgia makes everything taste better. Great post btw.
well in classic D2 where it takes 50 000 chaos runs to get 99 there was epicness. and Chaos runs require significant cooperation of different classes, kind of like in WoW. |
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| D_K_night Canada. May 29 2012 07:29. Posts 603 | Profile # |
On May 29 2012 06:20 empty.bottle wrote:
The epicness of getting to lvl 99 is gone.
Personally I don't see the point in keep playing after beating Inferno.
EDIT:No one hates sc2 because it's not BW btw...
then why are we seeing so many threads asking for the return of the lurker? or other units from BW? Or even the countless threads comparing BW vs SC2. There's just no way you can justify your statement there. |
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| Cyber_Cheese Australia. May 29 2012 07:38. Posts 3598 | Profile Blog # |
On May 29 2012 07:19 brolaf wrote:
Well, its low rating. Its simply not good enough for a lot of people, and is the lowest user rated blizz game of all time(gamespot)
The graphics need an overhaul, the game simply isn't dark enough
It's been said a lot, but nothing was changed, so it's still true
And that's with my monitor in power saving mode...Last edit: 2012-05-29 07:41:47 |
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| Leyra United States. May 29 2012 07:47. Posts 704 | Profile Blog # |
| Glad someone else is enjoying the game as much as I am! I'm having a blast, the game has some flaws for sure, but every game does. They're not gamebreaking in my eyes though. |
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 scintilliaSD United States. May 29 2012 08:42. Posts 2190 | Profile Blog # |
On May 29 2012 07:19 brolaf wrote:
Well, its low rating. Its simply not good enough for a lot of people, and is the lowest user rated blizz game of all time(gamespot)
Rated unfairly because everyone snap downvoted it while the servers were unstable on launch day, as if they didn't expect unstable servers on launch day or something. |
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