Diablo 3 - The Phantom Menace

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On June 01 2012 16:39 Belial- wrote:
Honestly, I think a lot of these people just didn't play much Pre-LoD D2.

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Not to mention the good drops are more rare

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On June 01 2012 17:10 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Wait, you are complaining its too easy and in the same complaint include that some packs are impossibly hard?

Starting to really dislike the feedback most of the community gives
Complain its too easy to beat the game, then proceed to complain they get two shot by any mob in inferno...

Same goes for items, complain the items are too bad and crappy, but that the AH is too stuffed with the best items. Isnt that just a complaint that you yourself arent finding any decent gear? Played alot of D2 and let me tell you this, the AH-system is way better then getting on some random forums, requesting a trade with someone and swapping items that way, all just hoping hes trustworthy, not a duper and not a scammer. Gold is actually valuable now as opposed to the gold in D2.

Theres no talk about the positives of this game at all. The story is actually pretty good, the idea of random sidequests that make sence are awesome (and expandable) and the cutscenes are killer (they actually got my gf into d3). Not to mention the good drops are more rare (it looks like it drops more cus of the AH, but drops way less then in D2 where u found a legendary from every endboss or more). The friendssystem and joining games together is also very nicely worked out.
Theres good challenge trough the acts, the minibosses are a great addition in diversity and the areas you go to just look pretty awesome (act3 hearttowers giant dudes anyone?).

The game is new, its just out and the load is still huge. Blizzard cant test a load of a couple of million players. They take the betatesting, expand that to the expected sales and adjust accordingly. If the load is 10x bigger then expected... well yeh the servers are going to have a tough time. Its a new game, its part of the process. You simply cant test everything, not even blizzard. Thats what support and patches are for, we had 1 patch so far. Can we give the game some time to evolve into what its supposed to be?

I agree with grovbolle, if you liked D2 that much and hate D3 as it is, stop playing it. But stop bitching about a new game thats just out. EVERY new game has problems. In this modern age as you put it @hazard, yes the budgets are bigger so they should be able to deliver a bugfree game. Thats where you forget that the complexity is also far far bigger then the older games. The engines get bigger and theres more bit n pieces that can break, specially with a few million people hammering on it at a time. You cant test everything, its impossible.

I love this game, I play a WD and im progressing to lvl60, buying some upgrades at the AH , finding some myself, running with friends. This game will only get better and better with time, its blizzard. give blizzard time.

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On June 01 2012 16:50 Deadlyhazard wrote:

This is so annoying -- how can you justify a release in this day in age (from a company that has grown in professional ability and monetarily) that's as broken as a game from a smaller company released OVER A DECADE ago. This game should have shipped with A LOT more content for the time it was in development, and that content should be much, much more sharp than it is right now on release. Blizzard has the resources. They made a killing off of WoW and SC2. I don't think they beta tested the game themselves at all, to be quite honest. It's pretty obvious their internal team is incompetent after their claim of testing inferno (and being unable to beat it).

There is no excuse for a game in our modern time, when we've learned so much about game design over a decade, to release the way it has. The broken AH, the poor itemization, the absurd elite combinations, the hit lag, the server issues, the list goes on. Diablo 2, a 12 year old game, never had this many issues on launch. It had problems -- but my god, they had such a tiny and relatively inexperienced (by industry standards today) team creating it. Why is the Diablo 3 team so incompetent? Did they even work on this game for a few years full time? Or did they work on parts of Titan and WoW? I refuse to believe an entire team of professionals worked on this game full-time for a few years or more.

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On June 01 2012 17:29 Deadlyhazard wrote:



People aren't complaining that the difficulty is too hard. When you get to inferno act 2, you'll realize it's not difficult. It's not like Dark Souls. It's about getting one shotted by hit lag and unfair elites that you have zero chance against as certain classes. The game needs to be harder. It needs to have less one shotting from unfair abilities and hit lag.

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On June 01 2012 17:33 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:


ur dumb wow, sc2, and d3 are three different properties and blizzard doesn't get that much money of them (activision does...) and more content.....? SO your telling me the years you played d2 there was different content? WAIT i bet you dont even remember all the quest why? because it was just trist----tombs----cows----baal------baal how is that betteR? d3 promised one thing mainly which was d3 itself.... nothing more nothing special just another game where you can play enjoy and then return to real life....

AND THE LAUNCH yes it was bad. BUT!!!!!!! what did you want them to do buy a shit load more servers so it could run clearly for the 1st week then what? after that week how do you justify the cost?

the elites..... why are you QQing about them being hard? i dont get it.

the lag is bad when it happends but ive been playing for since launch and ive had maybe 4 spikes in that entire time not including day 1. This is coming from someone whos playing hc too....

Whats so bad about the game itself that makes you believe its incomplete? it felt like a better d2.... the story was there the rising in difficult was there... the gear is over 100 times better than in d2 in looks and in quality no more running around and seeing the same paladin in every baal run. So it must be the pvp your talking about.... so answer me this would you just want the same system at launch from d2? no... because it sucked and you know it. Sure we need to wait for the pvp to come but a couple of months of waiting for pvp is much better than to delay launch that would of pissed you off so much more than your complain now.

Boooohoooo the AH isn't working right.... go back to d2 and spam all day to trade anything.... ill stay here and wait the 3 hours for ah to come back anyday......

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On June 01 2012 17:39 dmfg wrote:


I also hate this attitude that "it's not hard, it's just broken". I don't complain that I can't walk into an advanced aeronautics engineering exam and oneshot all the questions because "skill at thinking should >>> knowledge of the subject", and proceed to bitch that "aeronautics engineering is not hard, it's broken because if you don't know the equations you can't answer the questions, and that has nothing to do with skill".

It's yet another manifestation of this attitude that anything an individual cannot do must be because of external factors, not the individual.

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On June 01 2012 17:40 Deadlyhazard wrote:


Can you explain what you meant in the bolded part right there.....? Also please don't resort to ad hominem.

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On June 01 2012 17:45 Deadlyhazard wrote:


What??? So you enjoy gear checks over skill based games? If I was to play Dark Souls, I could potentially beat the game naked. The game IS REALLY hard even with some of the best items throughout the game.

in Diablo 3 inferno, you can't even beat some of the elite mobs with the best items in the game. Play against Act 4 rares with the best items in the game as a barbarian. It doesn't matter what their affixes are. They will destroy you. Your skill has no factor in inferno past act 1. It's entirely gear based.

Your knowledge argument isn't sufficient either, because the game has been theorycrafted to death and the game doesn't have that much complication in the way of stats. Another thing is your knowledge of information (and skill to use it) isn't viable in Diablo 3 like it would be with an aeronautic engineering test. It's more like -- if you had enough money in real life, you could pay your way through the engineering test without having to have the skill to take it. Optimal builds have already been found because very few skills for each class are even remotely viable in inferno. If you're in inferno yourself as a WD, you'll take note that you're either using a VQ spam build or a spamming splinter darts build.

If you're into the type of gear-check game like WoW is, fantastic for you. But Diablo isn't a series known for gear checks. You can beat almost any boss in Diablo 2 purely with skill -- to a limited degree. It was still a bit broken in Hell from immunities. In Diablo 3, a monster's affixes can entirely counter your character (and usually do) to the point where you CAN NOT solo it no matter how skilled you are without the best gear in the game. And even then, it's a stretch.

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