| BlazeFury01 United States. August 28 2012 07:28. Posts 1383 | Profile Blog # |
With the recent resolution of the dispute between Kespa, GOM & ESF, lies some serious thoughts and questions that many might have overlooked or not even thought about.
Is the resolution good for Kespa players, GOM players, or players in general?
In a lot of your minds, you are probably thinking the decision benefits the players in general. But, lets take a deeper analysis and use a broader perspective when thinking about the long term effects regarding the ESF, GOM, and Kespas decision.
With Kespa's recent showing of a 10-0 streak in WCS with only 3 1/2 months of practice while concurrently and simutaneously practicing two games the future of GOM is looking vastly bleak.
Even Boxer himself left his own team to join and assist with SKT1, Clide (KT Rolster), and Cezanne (Team 8) followed suit.
How is bringing up the 10-0 streak relevant when it was in the losers bracket?
Because some of GOM's upper tier players (Current GSL Champ Seed, DRG [Not too long ago thought to be the best Zerg in the world], Leenock [who just won MLG], and Gumiho [who was on a tear in the GSTL prior to WCS], were beaten by players they had two years experience on (who had noticable holes in their game, not a lot of experience, and not even complete game knowledge) compared to the people they played. Not to mention Reality beating both Symbol and Shine 2-0, and Snow defeating Nestea 2-0 in the WCS qualifiers. It is relevant because we know the potential of Kespas players. Many Koreans have told me that being a progamer in Brood War is harder then becoming a lawyer in Korea. So, if GOMs players are losing to Kespa players in the earliest stage of their career, then what will it look like for GOM players once Kespa players reach their potential and start competing in the GSL?
What will happen?
It will significantly decrease the chances GOM players have to win the tournament and increase the chances for Kespa players. Winning the GSL is a place for prestige and proving grounds where you have time to prepare for your opponent. Kespa players are masters when it comes to preparation due to having a coach for each race, top notch players, and a very experienced staff.
The decision will not only reduce GOM/ESFs chances of winning the tournament but also foreigners and new people who want to make an impact in the scene. Which means that there will be less opportunity for foreigners and non-licensed progamer teams to make money. If that is the case, then non-licensed teams will start attending foreign events even more frequently thus limiting the chances foreigners have to make money.
The rivalry sounds exciting at the moment but what happeneds when the rivalry is only between Kespa teams?
What will happen?
It will end up like Brood War again and Kespa will not only be in control of the OSL but the GSL as well. More sponsors will want to sponsor Kespa teams because of their success in the GSL which will reduce the chances GOM/ESF teams have to obtain them.
So, while you are chanting: Yeah! For the players! Think about which players will actually benefit from this. Also, keep in mind that the scariest part about all of this is that Kespa players have not even reached their potential in StarCraft 2, whereas ESF/GOM have had over two years to reach theirs.
Note: This is only my opinion. I am not saying that this will happen but there is potential for it to become a reality -- no pun intended.
*Edit - For those who keep bringing up the fact that it was the "losers bracket" as if it doesn't mean anything, keep in mind that the winner of WCS came from the "losers bracket" MVP and MC were in the "losers bracket" before they dropped. Does that make them any worst of a player? No..Last edit: 2012-08-28 11:04:39 |
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| Inquisitor1323 August 28 2012 07:31. Posts 370 | Profile # |
| When I read the title I immediately thought of Lord of the Rings. lol |
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| Kazeyonoma United States. August 28 2012 07:32. Posts 2244 | Profile Blog # |
While it was surprising to see the KeSPA players to jump the scale so quickly, I think part of why the GSL players weren't able to do as well is a lot of what progamers do well is analyze their opponents, something they can't do when there's literally 0 background info/games to watch that are meaningful for them to watch as a team.
Sure I believe the KeSPA players will catch up quickly, but I don't imagine it to be a total domination, I DO have faith in our current GSTL teams that they'll step up to the challenge, the better players will be able to face the better KeSPA players, while lesser players will rightfully fall out, but if it means having to ramp up their practice schedules, and and scouring for more sponsors so they can be more competitive, the GSL teams will do so and all it'll take is a few losses by the KeSPA teams against the GSTL teams, for them to start peaking interest from more popular sponsors. |
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| teddyoojo Germany. August 28 2012 07:33. Posts 2376 | Profile Blog # |
| lets make this clear - kespa players have not been playing for only 3 months as its been said by multiple gsl players |
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| LuckoftheIrish United States. August 28 2012 07:34. Posts 1767 | Profile # |
On August 28 2012 07:33 teddyoojo wrote:
lets make this clear - kespa players have not been playing for only 3 months as its been said by multiple gsl players
In fairness, the OP is an ideologue and doesn't care. |
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| Sigmur Poland. August 28 2012 07:34. Posts 455 | Profile # |
| Well written. I always thought top Kespa players will do well, so I can see this happening. Though new players aren't joining Kespa teams, but others. BW elite won't be playing forever, so then I think things will balance out afterall. |
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| BlazeFury01 United States. August 28 2012 07:34. Posts 1383 | Profile Blog # |
On August 28 2012 07:31 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
When I read the title I immediately thought of Lord of the Rings. lol
lol it sounded like a good title to use to describe the potential situation. |
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| rauk United States. August 28 2012 07:37. Posts 1706 | Profile Blog # |
On August 28 2012 07:33 teddyoojo wrote:
lets make this clear - kespa players have not been playing for only 3 months as its been said by multiple gsl players
if i were an ESF player i sure as hell wouldn't admit to losing to a player who only played SC2 for 3 months |
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| Rival United States. August 28 2012 07:37. Posts 33 | Profile # |
On August 28 2012 07:33 teddyoojo wrote:
lets make this clear - kespa players have not been playing for only 3 months as its been said by multiple gsl players
they may have been playing, but they were not playing seriously as they are now.
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| Yorbon Netherlands. August 28 2012 07:38. Posts 1371 | Profile # |
To be honest, i don't see any problems. In this case, it's fair competition.
I would almost say these things are part of competition. In a growing market (of players, in this case), some will be left out. But to go and qq (not towards the op) about fair chances is in my opinion a bit over the top. To say it's good for all player is wrong. To say it's good for all esf's players, is also wrong. To say it's good for all kespa players, is also wrong. A general statement cannot be made. It will be good for player who's potential is highest and realised fastest in uncertain times. But will those player be kespa or gom players? I don't know. I think no one can be certain, except elephant fanatics. |
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| Acertos France. August 28 2012 07:39. Posts 405 | Profile # |
| Xd 1/2 month and a half, dude it has been more than 6 month |
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| glzElectromaster Japan. August 28 2012 07:39. Posts 1441 | Profile Blog # |
On August 28 2012 07:31 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
When I read the title I immediately thought of Lord of the Rings. lol
When I saw the title, I thought it was GSL Calm Before the Storm  |
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| Jakkerr Netherlands. August 28 2012 07:40. Posts 2428 | Profile # |
Some of your conclusions are way too early IMO.
The upcoming GSL and OSL will give us a nice idea of the level of Kespa players vs gom players.
If the Kespa players really start dominating the scene in a few months it's because they deserve it, why do koreans own foreigners atm? Because they have a better infrastructure and put in way more effort.
If that same things happens with the Korean scene itself with Kespa vs GOM then it means the GOM teams will have to step it up.
In my opinion it's impossible for Kespa as an organization to become the powerhouse organization they were in BW, maybe they could in Korea overtime but the foreigner scene just doesn't accept such things.
And if that would mean tournaments without top Kespa players I don't think a lot of people would care aslong as there are valid reasons.
But all we are doing now is speculating, for now the drama has calmed down. And let's hope it stays like that for the upcoming time, cause this scene is in a desperate need of some stability. |
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| Mirham Denmark. August 28 2012 07:40. Posts 30 | Profile # |
People always seem to forget that when starcraft 2 game out, people started from scratch. They simply need to adapt to the new units, and maybe experiement with new funky builds in their spare time. But for the most part they got standard build orders and stuff already researched for them.
I'm not the slightest surprised that they are adapting fast at least.Last edit: 2012-08-28 07:40:48 |
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| Dosey United States. August 28 2012 07:40. Posts 3982 | Profile # |
On August 28 2012 07:39 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 07:31 Inquisitor1323 wrote:
When I read the title I immediately thought of Lord of the Rings. lol
When I saw the title, I thought it was GSL Calm Before the Storm
It's making a comeback with the KeSPA players.
Was part of their negotiations. |
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| shabby Norway. August 28 2012 07:41. Posts 4156 | Profile # |
| I don't understand what you are suggesting. Competition is good, and allowing kespa players to participate in GSL is the only way to actually validate GSL as a tournament. Same for OSL. If not everyone can participate, then you have no way of assuring everyone that you are actually displaying the best games. I do not fear for the GSL players. Those that are good enough and/or have the will and discipline to keep practicing will keep performing. |
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| Lorch Germany. August 28 2012 07:43. Posts 2216 | Profile # |
On August 28 2012 07:37 Rival wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 28 2012 07:33 teddyoojo wrote:
lets make this clear - kespa players have not been playing for only 3 months as its been said by multiple gsl players
they may have been playing, but they were not playing seriously as they are now.
And where exactly do you make an objective cut between playing and playing seriously? Can we honestly say that them playing a lot longer while still focusing on bw is neglectable?
Nice article, I just feel like it's an other elephant in the room, lets wait how osl goes and how the korean scene develops within the next year before we make judgements like this. |
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| LuckoftheIrish United States. August 28 2012 07:43. Posts 1767 | Profile # |
On August 28 2012 07:42 Fionn wrote:
Was a bad map.
It was better than some of the maps we've had. :-( |
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| ShiroKaisen United States. August 28 2012 07:44. Posts 548 | Profile Blog # |
The best players absolutely SHOULD win the tournaments. If the KeSPA players are praciticing harder and are more talented, there's no reason they shouldn't dominate GSL. Whether they WILL or not is up to no one but the eSF players and teams.If KeSPA players start dominating, it's on the eSF teams to practice just as hard as the KeSPA players do.
The thing is, it's been reported that a large number of eSF players don't practice quite as hard as KeSPA teams. Genius for example is known to have gotten away with being lazy and got to a GSL finals anyway. Yeah SlayerS under BoxeR was known to have a very KeSPA-esque regimen, same for TSL, but that doesn't seem to be true for everyone. If KeSPA practices 12 hours a day to the eSF 8 hours a day, it's on eSF to go to 13 hours of practice a day if they wanna win, yknow?
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