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STParting's Soulful Immortal Sentry All-in (PvZ)

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 RemarK   United States. October 30 2012 09:14. Posts 404
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I’ve been toying with the idea of using my blog to share build order skeletons for a few weeks now, but haven’t found a build interesting enough to talk about until I saw all the recent discussion about Parting’s immortal sentry all-in. After all-killing LG-IM in the GSTL, he gave an awesome interview that was full of confidence and personality – “In practice matches, I've performed around 70 Immortal timing attacks, and I have never seen anyone block one. There are no Zergs who can defend against my Immortal rush in Wings of Liberty." That quote led me to research this build in more depth, and after seeing an excellent post on the “All Things Protoss” subreddit, I decided to start learning the build and work on mastering more aggressive PvZ builds.

Build order skeleton:

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Tips / Tricks / Thoughts:

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VoDs:

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Replays + Analysis:

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Final Notes:

Given that this post is much shorter on detail and advice than any of my formal guides plus includes lots of citations from others, I decided to post it here under the format of a discussion rather than as a guide in the Strategy forum. I’ll continue practicing the build over the next few days, and update this post with more replays + analysis. Also, if anyone knows of more VoDs of this build, please post here or PM me so that I can add them to this post. I hope some of you join me in this conversation and post your results / replays with this build here for further discussion!

About Me:

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Last edit: 2012-11-12 15:33:54


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 EtherealDeath   United States. October 30 2012 09:31. Posts 8158
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Good skeleton, but it's the WonWonWon.

Alternatively, you could call it the ZERGBONGER~
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 FXOkaRmy   Canada. October 30 2012 09:50. Posts 575
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What is the reaction to a 6/10 pool?
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 RemarK   United States. October 30 2012 09:54. Posts 404
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On October 30 2012 09:50 LgNkarmy wrote:
What is the reaction to a 6/10 pool?


I play more standard and either 9-scout or blind 13-forge. I think he gets away with not scouting like that due to Code S metagame.
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 docvoc   United States. October 30 2012 10:05. Posts 3475
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Why is this in blogs? i realize that it is not detailed enough for the strategy section, but I don't know if blogs is the best place for this. Though, very nice B-O and style, I love parting . Also all parting does to react to a 6 pool is WIN.
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 Oboeman   Canada. October 30 2012 11:11. Posts 3414
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All the scout does is look for the hatch building at the third, then it goes back home to mine


Don't you think this is a little unsafe? Seeing a hatchery doesn't mean you're safe.
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 RemarK   United States. October 30 2012 11:15. Posts 404
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On October 30 2012 11:11 Oboeman wrote:

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Don't you think this is a little unsafe? Seeing a hatchery doesn't mean you're safe.


Hmm well, like I said, I don't follow that part of the build (I use standard scouting times, no-scout until 18 + nexus first is definitely greedy) but I think if you've scouted a 3rd base go down, the only thing you have to worry about is a slow zergling all-in which can be defended just by having a probe at your wall plugging the hole.
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 Whatson   United States. October 30 2012 11:58. Posts 4458
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Why this is only a blog...really could be turned into a guide
And please do more of these in the future if you can
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 RemarK   United States. October 31 2012 03:31. Posts 404
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On October 30 2012 11:58 Whatson wrote:
Why this is only a blog...really could be turned into a guide
And please do more of these in the future if you can


I wasn't comfortable posting it as a guide because:

1) I have kinda high standards for myself when I write guides, as far as including lots of information, advice on how to respond to every situation, and updating them periodically and answering the questions people. I didn't have the energy or motivation to turn this into a full-fledged guide, and I had just started using this build yesterday so I don't have the experience or understanding yet to talk about this strategy in Guide-worthy detail.

2) A sizable amount of this blog post includes content that was written by people I don't know on Reddit - I wasn't comfortable posting stuff I didn't write as a formal guide without their permission, and I wanted to make a fairly small write-up and just get this post online yesterday.

I might adapt it into a full-fledged guide after I have more understanding of the build and replays to share.

And yeah, I will be working on more content like this in the future. Both formal guides and smaller build order skeletons like this
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 Teoita   Italy. October 31 2012 03:40. Posts 4255
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I could swear i've seen him go robo before +1 to get his immortals out asap and i thought that was why his pushes are so much faster.
Last edit: 2012-10-31 03:40:39
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 .kv   United States. October 31 2012 03:56. Posts 2125
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He has like 3 different variations

Spent countless of hours watching his WonWonWon build through like 7 vods.

He has one where he goes with just 2 immortals but most of his builds revolve around 3 immortals, etc etc
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  xPabt   October 31 2012 06:31. Posts 226Profile # 
I think in that game he went straight for the natural as a reaction to leenock going for the base trade situation.
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 RemarK   United States. October 31 2012 06:41. Posts 404
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Thanks to Reddit user WonWonWon, there are now two more VoDs in the OP - they do not require GOM subscription as they are from WCS Asia!
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 Rickyvalle21   United States. October 31 2012 12:00. Posts 92
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Thank you so much remark. Someone actually did a guide a few months back of Parting's immortal sentry all-in when he did it vs Ret at red bull battlegrounds but this build has been proven to be more powerful and advance. Thank you.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
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 QuantumChaos   Canada. October 31 2012 12:39. Posts 30
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Since the Parting v Roro vod is over 2 hours long, game one starts at 1:39:40 (may want to add to OP)
Last edit: 2012-10-31 12:40:08
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 RemarK   United States. October 31 2012 12:57. Posts 404
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On October 31 2012 12:39 QuantumChaos wrote:
Since the Parting v Roro vod is over 2 hours long, game one starts at 1:39:40 (may want to add to OP)


The link in the OP has the time stamp in it, so it should automatically take you to the right time. I'll put a note in the link though in case that doesn't work for people.
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 Havik_   United States. October 31 2012 15:39. Posts 4395
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Has he seriously never lost to a Zerg with this? I find that incredibly hard to believe. If he got the point where he straight up was never losing against another race, combined with his amazing PvT and good PvP he would be much more dominant than he currently is.
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 zaner132   United States. October 31 2012 15:53. Posts 25
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On October 31 2012 15:39 Havik_ wrote:
Has he seriously never lost to a Zerg with this?


Maybe he only does it on maps that he knows it is strong on? Or he only follows through with build/attack if he sees zerg doing certain things? I don't think he meant that he blindly goes sentry immortal all-in every game no matter what.

Instead, he probably meant that every time he chooses to go sentry immortal all-in he wins.
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 Crosswind   United States. October 31 2012 18:01. Posts 272
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By making your first forge in your main, you are virtually guaranteeing that he will have lings in your base. Right? Or is there some way to prevent this?

-Cross
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 PolishxThunder   United States. November 01 2012 00:29. Posts 150
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Go to Scvods and look up Squirtle's pvz, I remember there being like 2 games where he did the same build (Vs Curious on Ohana is one)
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