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ieatkids5   United States. May 21 2008 01:11. Posts 3171 | Profile Blog |
Final research project for English 
I've done a bunch of research on the topic. Different viewpoints of it, pros, cons, ethics/moralality.
I'm all for it, and that is the position I'm defending for the 7-page paper. I have experienced disease/struggles - almost unbearable. Call me weak, but I would rather have my life ended than live the remainder of it in misery, pain, suffering. The only thing keeping me going was a hope and a chance that the suffering would end. I can sympathize with the people who have it worse than I had it, and theirs is for the rest of their life. I understand their situation, and support euthanasia for their benefit.
What do you think?
Edit - dont do my hw for me, i just want to know what other people think
Edit2 - cleared up an ambiguous sentenceLast edit: 2008-05-21 06:28:01
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Xeofreestyler   Belgium. May 21 2008 01:15. Posts 5739 | Profile Blog |
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XCetron   United States. May 21 2008 01:31. Posts 4999 | Profile Blog |
| I dont understand your question, I think it should be legalized but thats about it. |
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H   New Zealand. May 21 2008 01:32. Posts 4480 | Profile Blog |
| I support euthanasia fully. I can't be bothered justifying my viewpoint to pro-lifers though, and that's where any controversial tl thread is inevitably headed: a massive shitfest. |
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Hawk   United States. May 21 2008 01:41. Posts 10241 | Profile Blog |
On May 21 2008 01:32 H_ wrote: I support euthanasia fully. I can't be bothered justifying my viewpoint to pro-lifers though, and that's where any controversial tl thread is inevitably headed: a massive shitfest.
Agreed on all points here. I don't want some uppity moral-toting faggot to tell me I can't end my own life if I'm suffering from terminal cancer or something. |
| | Last Romantic wrote: Your crusade against internet ignorance in that thread is admirable, but I fear you've no chance. Against travis' stupidity God himself would strive in vain. |
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vGl-CoW   Belgium. May 21 2008 01:44. Posts 5410 | Profile Blog | |
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Jibba   United States. May 21 2008 01:45. Posts 7604 | Profile Blog |
On May 21 2008 01:32 H_ wrote: I support euthanasia fully. I can't be bothered justifying my viewpoint to pro-lifers though, and that's where any controversial tl thread is inevitably headed: a massive shitfest.
I'm pro-death and anti-choice. |
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LosingID8   USC. May 21 2008 01:47. Posts 7060 | Profile Blog | |
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iheartgna   United States. May 21 2008 02:02. Posts 157 | Profile Blog |
| Why do we need it, we're all going to die don't be a pussy when your time comes. |
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H   New Zealand. May 21 2008 02:11. Posts 4480 | Profile Blog |
On May 21 2008 02:02 iheartgna wrote: Why do we need it, we're all going to die don't be a pussy when your time comes.
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GrayArea   United States. May 21 2008 02:17. Posts 506 | Profile Blog |
On May 21 2008 01:41 Hawk wrote: Show nested quote +On May 21 2008 01:32 H_ wrote: I support euthanasia fully. I can't be bothered justifying my viewpoint to pro-lifers though, and that's where any controversial tl thread is inevitably headed: a massive shitfest.
Agreed on all points here. I don't want some uppity moral-toting faggot to tell me I can't end my own life if I'm suffering from terminal cancer or something.
There is a difference between suicide and Euthanasia. Euthanasia is when the doctor actively takes away your life by administering some sort of lethal substance into your body to end your life. Physician assisted suicide is when the doctor provides you the means to kill yourself, but in the end the patient has to "push the button." Suicide is when the patient does everything on his/her own to kill themselves.
Some patients are not able to end their lives on their own because of the physical situation they might be in. That is where they request Euthanasia. The dilemma arises when it becomes the doctor doing the killing. If you want to do suicide, fine, go ahead; but when the doctor has to play the role in killing the patient, that is when the debate comes up.
I think I support Euthanasia only in extremely severe cases. The thing about legalizing euthanasia is that where can we draw the line of when a person can request to end their life? It becomes a slippery slope argument. |
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Jibba   United States. May 21 2008 02:29. Posts 7604 | Profile Blog |
To all pro-lifers, I ask you this: If euthanasia is outlawed, then who will be the next Keanu Reeves?
Yeah, I thought so. |
| | There you have it. It didn't come from the government down. There was no dictum, no declaration, no censorship, to start with, no! Technology, mass exploitation, minority pressure, carried the trick. |
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pyrogenetix   China. May 21 2008 02:30. Posts 3704 | Profile Blog |
The whole pro life argument is just so naive and religiously fueled that it's annoying. If I have a sickness that has no cure then what is so wrong with me finishing what I have to do then ending my life with dignity. I do not want my family and friends to see me cough up blood, totally weak, losing my hair, need assistance when I need to take a crap and be in excruciating pain all the while knowing that nothing can save me.
Sometimes it is the mark of true strength to be able to let go of someone. |
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gwho   United States. May 21 2008 02:46. Posts 632 | Profile Blog |
the youth-in-asia should be legalized and there needs to be more awareness of youth-in-asia. youth-in-asia are our future. well not ours, actually, just asia's.
on a more serious note, it is a very controvorsial topic, and the feds should just fuck off - leave it to the states, like the constitution says. same could be said for abortion. the presidency, nor even congressmen and senators should be divided up on a topic such as this. not that it is not important, but state governments should decide, and the president and federal legislators need to focus on other stuff.
abortion and euthanasia becoming major "issues" for the presidency instead of balancing the budget, the legitimacy of the federal reserve and our fractional reserve (inflationary) banking system, warmongering some corner of the earth constantly since 1950 should be discussed. as important as topics like abortion and euthanasia are, those are individual decisions, and state decisions. that may be argued as to which one it is, but for sure it is not the fed's. in a disproportionate and illegitimate way, such topics like these become a "front" issue, diverting focus from the real issues. much like how the "battle" between dems and reps are a "front", while both parties pursue the same major policies. two sides of the same coin.
for example: hilary has granted everything bush wanted. both obama and hilary criticize bush, but they won't pull the troops out. they say it was "mismanaged" and better planning or whatever shit that sounds like they are against the status quo, but essentially supporting it. if we look closely and examine who is really against the war from its roots, its foundational philosophies, we have ron paul. "no nation building, trade with all, war and alliance with none." he's extremely close and even a replica of the founding fathers' positions on virtually everything. we look at bush, cheyney, hilary, obama, mccain we have one common thread: CFR membership. and they always tend to be more loyal to some twisted double-talking adgenda that is ALWAYS against the constitution. and with that association, you usually have secret society memberships as well as other groups like bilderberg, triliateral commission, bohemian grove... don't dismiss it as paranoid shit - look it up for yourself. first they said they don't exist, then they admit they exist, but it's benign (but they still can't tell you anything, it's a secret). then they go public with a superhighway... um hello? why don't we lend an ear to those who have been saying that it was a secretive, unconstitutional, pro-world government group FROM THE VERY BEGINNIG?!
CFR. start there.
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Hawk   United States. May 21 2008 02:51. Posts 10241 | Profile Blog |
On May 21 2008 02:17 GrayArea wrote: Show nested quote +On May 21 2008 01:41 Hawk wrote: On May 21 2008 01:32 H_ wrote: I support euthanasia fully. I can't be bothered justifying my viewpoint to pro-lifers though, and that's where any controversial tl thread is inevitably headed: a massive shitfest.
Agreed on all points here. I don't want some uppity moral-toting faggot to tell me I can't end my own life if I'm suffering from terminal cancer or something.
There is a difference between suicide and Euthanasia. Euthanasia is when the doctor actively takes away your life by administering some sort of lethal substance into your body to end your life. Physician assisted suicide is when the doctor provides you the means to kill yourself, but in the end the patient has to "push the button." Suicide is when the patient does everything on his/her own to kill themselves. Some patients are not able to end their lives on their own because of the physical situation they might be in. That is where they request Euthanasia. The dilemma arises when it becomes the doctor doing the killing. If you want to do suicide, fine, go ahead; but when the doctor has to play the role in killing the patient, that is when the debate comes up. I think I support Euthanasia only in extremely severe cases. The thing about legalizing euthanasia is that where can we draw the line of when a person can request to end their life? It becomes a slippery slope argument.
I know what it, i consider it one in the same.Last edit: 2008-05-21 02:52:30 |
| | Last Romantic wrote: Your crusade against internet ignorance in that thread is admirable, but I fear you've no chance. Against travis' stupidity God himself would strive in vain. |
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Hawk   United States. May 21 2008 02:53. Posts 10241 | Profile Blog |
On May 21 2008 02:29 Jibba wrote: To all pro-lifers, I ask you this: If euthanasia is outlawed, then who will be the next Keanu Reeves?
Yeah, I thought so.
Im lost  |
| | Last Romantic wrote: Your crusade against internet ignorance in that thread is admirable, but I fear you've no chance. Against travis' stupidity God himself would strive in vain. |
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GrayArea   United States. May 21 2008 03:03. Posts 506 | Profile Blog |
On May 21 2008 02:51 Hawk wrote: Show nested quote +On May 21 2008 02:17 GrayArea wrote: On May 21 2008 01:41 Hawk wrote: On May 21 2008 01:32 H_ wrote: I support euthanasia fully. I can't be bothered justifying my viewpoint to pro-lifers though, and that's where any controversial tl thread is inevitably headed: a massive shitfest.
Agreed on all points here. I don't want some uppity moral-toting faggot to tell me I can't end my own life if I'm suffering from terminal cancer or something.
There is a difference between suicide and Euthanasia. Euthanasia is when the doctor actively takes away your life by administering some sort of lethal substance into your body to end your life. Physician assisted suicide is when the doctor provides you the means to kill yourself, but in the end the patient has to "push the button." Suicide is when the patient does everything on his/her own to kill themselves. Some patients are not able to end their lives on their own because of the physical situation they might be in. That is where they request Euthanasia. The dilemma arises when it becomes the doctor doing the killing. If you want to do suicide, fine, go ahead; but when the doctor has to play the role in killing the patient, that is when the debate comes up. I think I support Euthanasia only in extremely severe cases. The thing about legalizing euthanasia is that where can we draw the line of when a person can request to end their life? It becomes a slippery slope argument.
I know what it, i consider it one in the same.
If you consider it the same, you are missing the whole point of the Euthanasia issue. In fact, you are not even addressing it. |
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KaasZerg   Netherlands. May 21 2008 03:11. Posts 879 | Profile |
| What about braindead. They can't make the decision. Their autonomonues sytems keep their heart beating and their lungs breathing. They are empty biological shells. Why waste money on them to keep those zombies alive. |
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perisie xx   May 21 2008 03:12. Posts 429 | Profile Blog |
| well, an issue just as big is the fact that the people requesting euthanasia may not be in their right mind (ie old, suffering from mental problems). this puts it down to the families (not the doctors) |
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kpcrew   Korea (South). May 21 2008 03:13. Posts 1071 | Profile Blog | |
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