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[BlizzCon] Pics + SC2 Analysis

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  PanoRaMa   United States. October 12 2008 17:20. Posts 4234Profile Blog 
I'm absolutely exhausted and I should really sleep but I'd like to get everything written before I forget. BlizzCon, as expected, was fucking great. I spent roughly ~20 hours at the actual venue, and my time there was comprised of watching the progamers and playing SC2. I went to BlizzCon last year and wrote a giant essay on what I thought about the game. At the time I felt like I played enough to give a good critique on the game without the need to really theorycraft as I had hands-on experience right then and there. I think this applies again as well, as I probably played somewhere in the area of 30 games of SC2 at BlizzCon. So hopefully you guys will enjoy this, as I will be writing extensively about the game.

BUT first and foremost here are some pictures!

+ Show Spoiler [PICS] +


And onto SC2...

+ Show Spoiler +


Update 10/12:

SaviOr vs YellOw SC2 short clip

Conclusions:
Another great year. I wish certain people were able to come, but beggars can't be choosers. Special thanks to my man DKNIGHT for hooking me up with a ticket in the first place!

More shoutouts to people that I chilled/at least conversed with that I still remember: my main dudes at UCI GhostClawS and blabber, CharlieMurphy, NEOILLU, "Etter" Etter, omgbnetsux aka joe, cF trident, HajiRaMa, XCetron, intrigue/tuna (twins imo), LastRomantic, SemiOldGuy (SAWG), gaetele, retsukage, MAHHHHHHHHnini, LosingID8 who organized the cheers and did a damn good job, Sigrun, dude who I beat PvP with DTs, etc. everyone really was awesome and a great bunch of dudes. There really is no better feeling than walking around feeling superior to everyone because you play StarCraft and are from TL.net while everyone else is a huge wow nerd around you ("these guys actually make me feel happy to be a starcraft nerd" -omgbnetsux commenting on WoW cosplayers), also cutting a huge line and just walking straight into the convention while security guards are yelling at you and you pretend like you don't hear them, etc, etc. Great times, great job with the representation, TL.

Kevin
Last edit: 2008-10-13 05:49:16


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  Murlox   France. October 12 2008 17:23. Posts 638Profile Blog 
Thanks for sharing, btw, Bunny is quite small no?
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  Aesop   Hungary. October 12 2008 17:28. Posts 5988Profile 
Thanks for your analysis! The changed engine you mentioned sounds really annoying - isn't it even possible to do animation cancelling as in war3?
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  PanoRaMa   United States. October 12 2008 17:34. Posts 4234Profile Blog 

On October 12 2008 17:28 Aesop wrote:
Thanks for your analysis! The changed engine you mentioned sounds really annoying - isn't it even possible to do animation cancelling as in war3?


If there is, then it's not the traditional way we know of going about things. You definitely need to sometimes sit there and and auto attack (which ends up being the most effective attack form simply because you're unable to micro it any other way). Another way of describing it is, imagine a vulture or a mutalisk's turning speeds (i.e. it's the same as if they were moving straight). Imagine how you can "dance" any SC unit because it can turn fast, etc. etc. you can't really do this anymore in SC2 (to an extent you could even in war3).

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong and i'm just a giant newb
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  p4NDemik   United States. October 12 2008 18:18. Posts 2905Profile Blog 
Thank you for your insight. From watching the Exibition match I sort of felt the same way you did about how it was difficult to discern what was going on in mid-to-large sized battles, had that same thing where my brain was like "looks cool, but I have no idea who is gaining an advantage." I couldn't tell what was dying, how many units were dying ... whatever. Which is very concerning from a spectators standpoint.
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  Ganfei   Taiwan. October 12 2008 18:39. Posts 1230Profile Blog 
That was a really good read about SC2. Blizz really needs to understand the community they are going to be marketing this game to. Sure there will be an initial surge of noobs buying the game, but the people who are gonna stick with it are us - the real players of SC1 and the big fans who want to see Korean progaming and follow the game for years and play for years. It's nice to see someone actually just come out and say what I've thought, that being that SC2 just is too fuckin complicated looking on screen with too much shit going on.

V. good read. Zerg sounds shitty. And fuck not being able to pull a Nada...it's what makes SC great.
Last edit: 2008-10-12 18:39:43
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  prOxi.swAMi   Australia. October 12 2008 18:40. Posts 1941Profile Blog 
Nice blog Pano
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  404.Nintu   Canada. October 12 2008 18:53. Posts 1712Profile Blog 
The sc2 developers, having seen the units and scenes so many times, knew exactly what was going on and that's what's important. It might be confusing initially, but both of the commentators knew immediately how many lings died or drones died, etc.. At times when I was looking quite closely, they just knew more about what was happening.

Our eyes will adjust to be able recognize units and deaths very easily.
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  Hot_Bid   Braavos. October 12 2008 19:16. Posts 22090Profile Blog 
did savior make any comments about your cj shirt
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  zatic   Germany. October 12 2008 19:18. Posts 2813Profile Blog 
Hmm funny I disagree on almost anything you wrote about SC2 except the sound part. The early Marine Marauder push is also known as the "Zatic build" imo :-)
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  Ki_Do   Korea (South). October 12 2008 20:03. Posts 981Profile Blog 
mmm
i could watch the game pretty well
but i felt micro and macro sucked hard...
i doubt what Yellow did with stalkers was something really pro, i bet a lot of ppl can do that it doesnt require amazing apm.
Macro was (no coments) everyime we saw tons of units everywhere... in a low eco game....
even sonkie with that bad macro could be competitive...
I dont think there will be a difference between a macro player and a micro player in sc2, unless they remove some automatizations
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  DhakhaR   United Kingdom. October 12 2008 20:04. Posts 648Profile Blog 
[image loading]

NOOOOOOOOO, dont shoot Savior!!!
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  clazziquai   October 12 2008 20:06. Posts 6685Profile Blog 
Awesome read and thanks for sharing about SC2. Honestly, I have like very very little knowledge because I have NO interest in it whatsoever. I only knew about like the Immortals (goons that can take in tank damage?) and zealots that had the charge ability...so yea >_>
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  NeverGG  *   Korea (South). October 12 2008 21:02. Posts 3798Profile Blog 
It looks like a really cool set up there at the con. Jangbi looks kind of badass in his photo - which is pretty unusual for him ^_^;
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  Aerox   Malaysia. October 12 2008 21:59. Posts 1039Profile Blog 
IMO from the screenshots, it really does look kinda hard to recognize the units from an outsider perspective due to the particles and explosions. And especially shadows which I noticed. But I need to really see the game in action in person myself for a better judgement.
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  Zoler   Sweden. October 13 2008 01:12. Posts 3942Profile Blog 
The game can be really good imo, but they need to work a lot on the graphics.
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  rA.Hippie   Denmark. October 13 2008 01:57. Posts 688Profile Blog 
Choblar ? 8D
Great read btw.
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  Gaetele   Esper. October 13 2008 02:03. Posts 760Profile Blog 
marine marauder imba imba imba
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  LosingID8   USC. October 13 2008 02:04. Posts 7060Profile Blog 
i hate the zatic build
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  Physician  *   United States. October 13 2008 02:11. Posts 4000Profile Blog 
There really is no better feeling than walking around feeling superior to everyone because you play StarCraft and are from TL.net while everyone else is a huge wow nerd around you ("these guys actually make me feel happy to be a starcraft nerd" -omgbnetsux commenting on WoW cosplayers), also cutting a huge line and just walking straight into the convention while security guards are yelling at you and you pretend like you don't hear them, etc, etc.

best part lol
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