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  thoraxe   United States. November 18 2008 09:45. Posts 1173Profile Blog 
So a friend and I were debating on what the message of To Kill a Mocking bird was. I was saying that its to treats others for who/what they are but should be judged on their actions and behaviours. While my friend was saying that its to preserve innocence like boo radley and scout. What is your take on the message of the book?
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  Chef   Canada. November 18 2008 09:48. Posts 4712Profile Blog 
By your friend, do you mean your grade 9 homework?
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  nimysa   United States. November 18 2008 09:49. Posts 346Profile Blog 
Who cares? There are millions of better books out there, I hated it personally because I had to read it for school and the premise was completely unoriginal. Go read watchmen!
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  Pokebunny   United States. November 18 2008 09:52. Posts 1894Profile Blog 

On November 18 2008 09:48 Chef wrote:
By your friend, do you mean your grade 9 homework?


Grade 7 homework last year. ;_;
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  Folca   November 18 2008 09:54. Posts 1972Profile Blog 
It's still going on in Grade 9 year though
There was way more than the message of the book rather than treating otheres, It concerns about the harm and tragedy of racism, and how even such innocense could be corrupted so badly, I dont know if what im saying is truely right, but thats the jist of it, I guess
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  Ganfei   Taiwan. November 18 2008 09:59. Posts 1230Profile Blog 

On November 18 2008 09:49 nimysa wrote:
Who cares? There are millions of better books out there, I hated it personally because I had to read it for school and the premise was completely unoriginal. Go read watchmen!


This is such a dumb post, you call one of the seminal works of literature crap, say it's unoriginal, and say go read Watchmen....did it ever occur to you that it's not original because OTHERS copied IT, not the other way around, because it was powerful enough to create an entire cliche?

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  Caller   United States. November 18 2008 10:06. Posts 3505Profile Blog 

On November 18 2008 09:59 NoobsOfWrath wrote:

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This is such a dumb post, you call one of the seminal works of literature crap, say it's unoriginal, and say go read Watchmen....did it ever occur to you that it's not original because OTHERS copied IT, not the other way around, because it was powerful enough to create an entire cliche?



or maybe because it is a piece of crap

srsly i'll read a book if its good

the only reason we read that book was to read about the plight of the black man as angry white people made them suffer for no good reason

i like other books that involve race issues, but this is nowhere near the top of any book I have read.
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  stanley_   United States. November 18 2008 10:18. Posts 674Profile Blog 
if it dun bother you then you must kill it.
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  FragKrag   United States. November 18 2008 10:20. Posts 4680Profile Blog 
Uncle Tom's Cabin okok?
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  SingletonWilliam   United States. November 18 2008 10:23. Posts 507Profile 
I thought To Kill A Mockingbird was great, it was summer homework in 11th grade AP.

I strongly disagree with Caller and nimysa.
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  Jibba   United States. November 18 2008 10:32. Posts 7604Profile Blog 

On November 18 2008 10:06 Caller wrote:

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or maybe because it is a piece of crap

srsly i'll read a book if its good

the only reason we read that book was to read about the plight of the black man as angry white people made them suffer for no good reason

i like other books that involve race issues, but this is nowhere near the top of any book I have read.

It's about much more than race issues.

I can see complaining about I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, but TKAM is actually pretty good.
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  SpiralArchitect   United States. November 18 2008 10:33. Posts 2116Profile Blog 

On November 18 2008 09:49 nimysa wrote:
Who cares? There are millions of better books out there, I hated it personally because I had to read it for school and the premise was completely unoriginal. Go read watchmen!

Wowo. To Kill A Mocking Bird is not only one of the most influential works of literature ever, its also one of the best movies of its time. The premise was one of the most original of its time as well, which just gos to show how much you payed attention when you had to read it in school.

Edit: @Caller. You clearly missed the point of the book. Its about much much more than just race issues, it covers prejudice more than just racial hate. Seriously, its ok if you dont like the book, but how can you call it crappy? Thats like calling Beowulf crappy.
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  benjammin   United States. November 18 2008 10:33. Posts 1939Profile Blog 
I think you can separate some intellectual issues with To Kill a Mockingbird from branding it a "good" or "bad" book. It is an excellent book by all means. I don't really know what this means: "the only reason we read that book was to read about the plight of the black man as angry white people made them suffer for no good reason" so I'll mostly just ignore it. It makes delicate social issues approachable, and its writing is superb given the average of what kids read in high school these days . The Red Badge of Courage? The Last of the Mohicans? Give me a break.

Also, I assume Pokebunny is just trying to show off, as I'd imagine any seventh grader reading To Kill a Mockingbird is going to miss a great deal of the significance of the work.

If you want to level a reasonable complaint against the novel, you could say something along the lines of: The emotion you feel for the characters is too easily obtained. Atticus is too perfect, Ewell is too evil. It never places the reader in any sort of moral ambiguity, as the book purposely constructs good and bad as being very easily distinguishable. Ironically, Capote's (a contemporary/friend) novel In Cold Blood is all about that, and challenges the reader to feel empathy/sympathy for the murderers.

Still, it's a fantastic book, and should be taught in school without a doubt.
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  lesser_good   Canada. November 18 2008 10:40. Posts 601Profile Blog 
books dont have to have ONE message. This book in particular has quite a few. Including both yours and your 'friends'
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  zachmorris   United States. November 18 2008 10:50. Posts 106Profile Blog 
who cares?
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  OneOther   Streets of Seoul. November 18 2008 11:10. Posts 8510Profile Blog 
hey zachmorris, shut the fuck up.
your last four posts:

On November 18 2008 10:50 zachmorris wrote:
who cares?


On November 18 2008 10:50 zachmorris wrote:
who cares?


On November 15 2008 21:59 zachmorris wrote:
who cares...


On November 15 2008 21:49 zachmorris wrote:
who cares....

You posted the first two in two different threads in the SAME second
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  d(O.o)a   Canada. November 18 2008 11:46. Posts 2741Profile Blog 

On November 18 2008 11:10 OneOther wrote:
hey zachmorris, shut the fuck up.
your last four posts:

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You posted the first two in two different threads in the SAME second


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  Caller   United States. November 18 2008 11:50. Posts 3505Profile Blog 

On November 18 2008 10:33 SpiralArchitect wrote:

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Wowo. To Kill A Mocking Bird is not only one of the most influential works of literature ever, its also one of the best movies of its time. The premise was one of the most original of its time as well, which just gos to show how much you payed attention when you had to read it in school.

Edit: @Caller. You clearly missed the point of the book. Its about much much more than just race issues, it covers prejudice more than just racial hate. Seriously, its ok if you dont like the book, but how can you call it crappy? Thats like calling Beowulf crappy.


i don't disagree that the issues are important
i just don't like it when they wave it in your face and force you to read about it
that's what we did in our school and I didn't like that very much -_-

maybe it wasn't that crappy. but it wasn't good.
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  Chef   Canada. November 18 2008 12:01. Posts 4712Profile Blog 

On November 18 2008 11:50 Caller wrote:

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i don't disagree that the issues are important
i just don't like it when they wave it in your face and force you to read about it
that's what we did in our school and I didn't like that very much -_-

maybe it wasn't that crappy. but it wasn't good.

No, it was good. You just have very weak critical thinking skills.
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  Caller   United States. November 18 2008 12:02. Posts 3505Profile Blog 

On November 18 2008 12:01 Chef wrote:

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No, it was good. You just have very weak critical thinking skills.


No, it was bad. You just have poor taste in literature.

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