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  OneOther   Streets of Seoul. November 29 2008 17:50. Posts 8505Profile Blog 
I am planning on buying a new laptop in a week or two that I will be using in college (also because I need one right now), and I would like to get some feedback. MacBook Pro (15 inch, 2.4 GHZ: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/macbook_pro) is on top of my list right now, but some people told me that it's definitely not worth the money.

Is it really overpriced? How much better of a laptop can I purchase with the same amount of money? Since I would have to take it around various classes, what are some other ideal high performance laptops? By the way, I am not really interested in building one. Thanks!
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  Nitrogen   United States. November 29 2008 17:57. Posts 3802Profile Blog 
holy shit that is overpriced. i would recommend not buying a mac (or at least not directly from them) because they are usually incredibly overpriced.
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  Semagdnim   United States. November 29 2008 17:59. Posts 126Profile 
asus/lenovo is a good choice.
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  zgl   Canada. November 29 2008 18:04. Posts 722Profile Blog 
You can get a similarly spec'd notebook for like $1300 (for example, see powernotebooks.com )

edit: MBP is not overpriced. Machined chassis is worth it alone for people who want quality.
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  LeperKahn   United States. November 29 2008 18:07. Posts 749Profile Blog 
I would recommend buying a mac. I'm not sure if it is overpriced for I don't know the market at all, but at the moment there are 6 macs in my house including unused ones and work-but-not-owned macs. Each runs great and has only ever had 1 problem total. Which was fixed the same day by taking the laptop down to the apple store.

I'm typing on a mac right now, and with boot camp installed there is no problem for being able to connect to #LL games, or iCCup. In fact I have iCCup on my mac, but no anti-hack. As to performance I can't speak as to how that particular mac works, but my iMac can run any game at top settings (Maybe not Crysis, though haven't tried...) and still work in the 30ish FPS range.
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  phase   United States. November 29 2008 18:11. Posts 256Profile Blog 
definitely recommend the mbp. like zgl said, the one-piece chassis/frame is hella good. other features are the LED backlit screen, good battery life, amazing customer service, and 3 year warranty.

and if you're a programmer, it's even better.
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  paper   November 29 2008 18:12. Posts 7281Profile Blog 
get a killer desktop . . .

you're not gonna be using the laptop in class -_-
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  jhNz   Germany. November 29 2008 18:14. Posts 1785Profile Blog 
i own the new macbook (not pro) with 2.4 ghz, 4 gigabyte ram and a 13.3" display. and all i can tell you is, that it totally kicks ass. i wouldn't buy the macbook pro neither, but the normal one with the ram upgrade is totally worth its price. as long as you don'T essentially need a firewire port the macbook is the best choice imho.
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  Blind   United States. November 29 2008 18:41. Posts 2143Profile Blog 
I've got a ThinkPad which I love and highly recommend. It has a plain look (not for everybody, but I like it), great keyboard, and top-notch quality. It's above dells/HP/asus and under macs pricewise.
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  mahnini   United States. November 29 2008 18:42. Posts 4383Profile Blog 
if i were in your situation i would go with a decent desktop and a netbook for class (asus eeepc 1000ha)

you probably dont even need the 1000ha but anything smaller than 10" is probably a no go
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  IzzyCraft   United States. November 29 2008 18:47. Posts 4487Profile Blog 
Apple at stock if fair price meaning as long as you don't upgrade it's usually a close to fair price.

Apple upgrades are severely price rape to your wallet. They can do that because mac osx isn't compatible with all parts so it's kinda a risk to self upgrade some parts sometimes.

If you like use the mac related software alot it's worth it meaning you do alot of designer level editing of vids etc.

If you just want it cause it looks cool...well I can't say I approve of it but I know alot of people shop on that premise.
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  jhNz   Germany. November 29 2008 18:55. Posts 1785Profile Blog 
are you student? because there are several distributors who have special offers for students. i got 10% discount when i bought my macbook.
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  jgad   Canada. November 29 2008 19:09. Posts 612Profile Blog 
It's not really a risk to upgrade at all. I'm not sure where this mythos comes from, but it's totally untrue. When I bought my G5 tower last year, it was replacing a six year old mac that started life as a 450MHz G4 system and by the time I bequeathed it to my old man it had a much faster CPU, a ton of ram, a new optical drive, two new video cards, a capture card, three hard drives - I'd even replaced some of the fans. Save for the logic board itself, pretty much everything had been swapped out at some point or another, and none of it came from Apple - all stuff I bought in static bags at dodgy geek-out OEM shops.

But at any rate, what to buy really depends on what you want your computer to do. What you are taking in college, for example, would have a huge impact on what sort of computer makes sense to buy. If you need software like AutoCAD for example, then a Windows system is really the only option. Lots of disciplines have niche software that may only be available for one system or the other. If you're taking a music course and you have to learn Logic Pro, then you need a mac - no question.

I'm a physicist/engineer and I've never owned anything but macs, mind you. Many of my colleagues like to use software like Microcal's Origin, and for me it's just not possible. Alternatives exist, though, and if you're computer literate then you have an entire library of open-source stuff which will compile on a mac. Again, it depends on you and it depends on what you're doing. I personally just like macs - Windows machines make me want to pull my hair out on a regular basis and, for me, the little extra work I have to do to make my mac workable in my work environment is less of an investment than the extra work I have to do to keep Windows working all the bloody time. For me it's worthwhile. If you're not a power user, though, or lack the confidence or motivation to dig into the innards of your machine now and again, then the well-supported world of Windows is perhaps a safer choice.

If you're already a seasoned Windows user, are you prepared to learn a whole new operating system? MacOS and Windows are sort of like distant dialects of the same language - in some ways they seem very similar, but close examination reveals that a lot of things work in fundamentally different ways. It will require learning if you're making a switch.

Anyway, if there's one thing I will say with certainty, it's that people are right when they say never to buy new from Apple. I've been a Mac user since 1986 and I've only ever bought one mac new - a blue G3 tower in early 1999. It's just not worth it. After carelessly leaving my six year-old iBook on a city bus, I bought a macbook a few months ago. I got one second hand which was six months old and saved about 40% from what it wolud have cost new. On top of that, the guy who had bought it had naturally put a bit of extra RAM in it, so that came as a freebie as well.

There are more than enough Apple iZombies™ out there who are willing to drop their life every time Steve Jobs says "oh...and one more thing". In the process, they shift onto the used market their otherwise brand new and fully functional Apple gear because Jobs has hypnotised them into thinking that they need the next best thing. Bargain!
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  thedeadhaji   November 29 2008 19:15. Posts 26538Profile Blog 
also your school will most likely have offers
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  Tonkerchen   Maldives. November 29 2008 19:37. Posts 485Profile Blog 
Go get an IBM Thinkpad. (T-Series)
Best quality, service and life duration for smaller price. But if you don't like the design... well :/
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  OneOther   Streets of Seoul. November 29 2008 19:37. Posts 8505Profile Blog 
thank you everyone for the information! haha i am such a laptop newb o_o macbook pro is just too appealing i suppose i'll do some more research on my own as well
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  tiffany   November 29 2008 19:37. Posts 3408Profile 

On November 29 2008 19:15 thedeadhaji wrote:
also your school will most likely have offers

if you do decide on a mac, wait until you get to school. otherwise i'd recommend lenovo. do you know where you'll be going ray?
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  OneOther   Streets of Seoul. November 29 2008 19:39. Posts 8505Profile Blog 

On November 29 2008 19:37 tiffany wrote:

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if you do decide on a mac, wait until you get to school. otherwise i'd recommend lenovo. do you know where you'll be going ray?

nah i don't. early action decisions come out on december 15th (scared as fuck atm) are you in california? how are you liking it?
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  OneOther   Streets of Seoul. November 29 2008 19:40. Posts 8505Profile Blog 
hm well the thing is, i can't wait til i get to college because i need a laptop right now. my desktop is having major issues and i don't want to spend any more money trying to fix it
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  GHOSTCLAW   United States. November 29 2008 19:44. Posts 10240Profile Blog 
California is amazing. It really depends which college/where you're planning on going though. (Socal vs norcal, although Dec 15th, sounds like you applied to stanford early >.> (It's right where I live, so I know the dates))

If you want a Mac, then you should get a macbook. It's pretty competitive with similarily equipped pc's, and it basically comes down to preference on the operating system.
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