Geo.Rion   Romania. April 11 2009 21:32. Posts 2081 | Profile Blog |
I just played a guy who was C-, i've won, checked the APM and he had 77. No joking. How on earth? I'm not C- yet, after playing sg like 50-60 games, and i used to reach C at the end of the season. How many games had this guy played? And more importantly, how is he winning enough??
the rule is rep or it didnt happen, so here it is, quite boring game
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=10459
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ReCharge   Philippines. April 11 2009 21:37. Posts 436 | Profile Blog |
Watched the Rep, its simple it's because he is P alright?? I'm P, and D+ almost C-, and I only have 70~100 apm.
DONT START THE 1A2A3A bs thing plz. |
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MasterReY   Germany. April 11 2009 21:37. Posts 1880 | Profile Blog |
whats wrong about being C- with 77 apm?
once i played without spam and i got 72 apm and i've beaten a 282 apm C+ with that, so what? |
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MasterReY   Germany. April 11 2009 21:38. Posts 1880 | Profile Blog |
| im C+/B- with ~100-120 apm btw Last edit: 2009-04-11 21:38:20 |
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Geo.Rion   Romania. April 11 2009 21:39. Posts 2081 | Profile Blog |
| than sg s wrong with me, i've never seen anyone below 100 APM who was good enough to reach C-, or even keep the D+ rank. If ya ppl say it's usual than ok, i almost fell off the chair when i saw it. |
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Geo.Rion   Romania. April 11 2009 21:41. Posts 2081 | Profile Blog |
On April 11 2009 21:38 MasterReY wrote: im C+/B- with ~100-120 apm btw
who, props for that. i dont (think) i spam, and even with my 130-160 APM i feel really slow, and i thinkg that's what prevents me from making further on icc, not enough apm to macro in fights or multitask |
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ReCharge   Philippines. April 11 2009 21:48. Posts 436 | Profile Blog |
| Hmm, it seems that he played REALLY badly on this game, which means, its his absolute WORSE MU, when I use to suck at PVZ, i got 60 as my apm, but at i got better now.... BTW, next time, try to search for hidden expo :D it could help your gameplay a lot. |
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genryou   Malaysia. April 11 2009 21:52. Posts 362 | Profile Blog |
high APM can either mean lots of spam or fast hand, its not a weird thing to have a low APM but solid gameplay.
plus, 77 APM is throughout the whole game is average, if it was below 50 then i too will fall of my chair.
what his highest APM anyway?Last edit: 2009-04-11 21:54:01 |
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thedeadhaji   April 11 2009 21:58. Posts 26538 | Profile Blog |
| there have been 90 apm A- pgt players before -,- |
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Pulimuli   Sweden. April 11 2009 21:59. Posts 482 | Profile |
On April 11 2009 21:52 genryou wrote: high APM can either mean lots of spam or fast hand, its not a weird thing to have a low APM but solid gameplay.
plus, 77 APM is throughout the whole game is average, if it was below 50 then i too will fall of my chair.
what his highest APM anyway?
Yes high apm can mean alot of spam so the important thing to look at is EAPM
even if his EAPM is 77 it is insanely low and only protoss could actually play with such low apm |
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kartoffel   April 11 2009 22:02. Posts 16 | Profile |
its his game knowledge and routine. He probably plays for almost 5-6+ yrs. So he beats them with decision making and so on. I think he won't go any further than c+/b- with 70apm because he can't stand a macro game vs same rank koreans.
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DrywMz   United States. April 11 2009 22:08. Posts 319 | Profile Blog |
| For a second I thought this would be about Empyrean, then I remembered he has a rockin' ~90 apm. |
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Shikyo   Finland. April 11 2009 22:09. Posts 3739 | Profile |
| So he's Protoss. And I thought this was going to be something somewhat unusual... That's like the average apm of the D+/C- Protoss players. |
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Gnojfatelob   Belgium. April 11 2009 22:11. Posts 214 | Profile |
| could be that not the actual person played the account, but perhaps a friend or so. I play on my friends account from time to time when i am there and he is already logged in. |
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DownMaxX   Canada. April 11 2009 22:15. Posts 1065 | Profile |
Oh man, I was playing a Korean Terran last week who had over 300 APM at the D+ level, and he asked me my APM, so I told him honestly (around 170) and he's just like "WHAT? Do you play Protoss or something?"
He didn't believe I could get to D+ as Zerg with 170 APM. |
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PriitM   Algeria. April 11 2009 22:18. Posts 181 | Profile Blog | |
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Boblion   Andorra. April 11 2009 23:01. Posts 3574 | Profile Blog |
| Kwark is A+ with 100 apm. |
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ilovezil   United States. April 11 2009 23:02. Posts 3572 | Profile Blog |
On April 11 2009 21:58 thedeadhaji wrote: there have been 90 apm A- pgt players before -,-
Oh come now, haji. You know as well as I do there have been olympic rank PGT players with HALF that apm.
And everyone else was either A or A+ |
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Zozma   United States. April 11 2009 23:02. Posts 1020 | Profile Blog |
| It's possible for any race to ladder to C at least with ~77 APM. Imagine if Jaedong held himself down to that: he could probably still get to C+ anyway. This guy doesn't have to be as good as Jaedong anyway, but I'm just saying. |
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Diomedes   April 11 2009 23:05. Posts 464 | Profile |
| How can you have below 120 APM is you played enough games to get to C? |
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