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Guide to Music - Screamo

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  boesthius   United States. May 24 2009 13:09. Posts 3475Profile Blog 
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I really realllllllllly liked Daigomi's guides to music that he was posting in his blog a while back(I wish he would update again ), and I said in another blog that I'd write one on the screamo genre. So, I thought I might continue in the same fashion as Daigomi, and write somewhat of a guide to the screamo genre.



The term screamo is a fairly controversial term that gets thrown around left and right almost as much as metal when you're talking about metalcore. Most people equate screamo as to what it's been brought down to today - bands like Underoath or Silverstein, or even as simple as anything with harsh vocals - and dismiss the genre right off the bat. However, screamo/emo-violence/post-hardcore/whatever you want to call it is (as much as i hate resorting to wiki, it's right) redominantly evolved from hardcore punk and a more aggressive offshoot of emo bands like Cap'n Jazz, Moss Icon, Braid and the more popular Sunny Day Real Estate. Most screamo artists - especially the early pioneers of the genre - tended to keep their songs shorter than the norm (usually less than 1:30 as i've noticed). While usually fairly simple in structure at first, the songs were generally more chaotic than that of original emo artists; taking their influence from earlier 80's hardcore bands. As time progressed, as always, many different variations branched out from many different influences - bands that are extremely technical to the point of grind and those that incorporate melodies and instrumental breakdowns similar to post-rock.

Screamo is noted for it's incredibly DIY attitude, usually staying away from labels, management, etc. Where this genre gets me is the live show - it is entirely based around the experience you will have when watching a band live. It's not about getting up on a huge stage with tons of lights and raising up the band, but down on the floor with the audience around interacting the band, full of passion and creating one of the best live atmospheres I've ever witnessed.



Orchid

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- This band is one of my favorite bands of all time, and heavy favorite of this genre. Fronted by my favorite vocalist Jayson Green, Orchid kicks in your face with it's fast-tempo and chaotic songs, all with really good lyrics. I realllly wish I could have been into this scene when they were around, all of their live shows I have viewed on youtube are incredible. Orchid is considered by many (including myself ) to be the pioneer of what is known as screamo today, even though their aggressive songs sometimes border on grind.

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pg. 99

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- I almost didn't include pg.99 because their sound changed so much in between records, but their emphasis is predominantly hardcore punk, so I decided what the hell. pg.99, according to their myspace, were:
    a hardcore punk band from Sterling, Virginia, located in the outskirts of Washington D.C. “We were just a group of friends who all wanted to play music and try to make our lives more incredible”. They formed as a 6 piece in the Winter of 1998 and later became an 8 piece. They went on several full US tours over their 5 year existence. They have 11 records out on many different labels, all of which have become great friends to them. Some include: Reptilian, Level-Plane, Robodog, Happy Couples Never Last, Robotic Empire and Magic Bullet. They preserve the idea that within their music, passion leaks out of every pore possible. Proposing that punk rock remains youthful and full of meaning, it is the most intensely committed endeavor of all our lives, and in the end when all’s said and done… in some shape or form we will live on forever through this music and defining time of our lives.

That really sums up pg.99 well, so I'll just leave some songs for you to decide on.

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Neil Perry

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- Neil Perry was a screamo band from New Jersey that got their name from a suicidal teenager in the Robin Williams movie "The Dead Poet Society". Playing incredibly raw and fast tempos, Neil Perry laid guitar melodies in the middle of erratic drums to create a type of noise that could only be described as amazing. There aren't that many songs of Neil Perry on youtube, so here's the DVD that they released when they broke up. It encompasses Neil Perry, as well as the whole screamo scene in general, incredibly well.

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Circle Takes the Square

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- As much as I love this genre it honestly took me a little while to really get into these guys - mostly because of the vocals. Now I listen to black metal so I'm not one to complain about vocals, but Kathy's harsh yells were a little too much at first and were almost annoying. However, I sat down to listen to their latest cd As The Roots Undo and I was blown away. They take the fast stylings of screamo and morph it with some math-y progressions and some minimalist instrumentals and create a reallllly good experimental screamo band.

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Sailboats

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- I just discovered this band recently, and they are quickly becoming one of my favorites easily. Sailboats have made 2 songs, and then sadly 2/3 of the band died in a car crash, the only survivor was the drummer who joined with Loma Prieta later. Although they only released 2 songs(song 4 and 53 sec song are not made by Sailboats as a full band, they are side projects by the members), they are better then 90% of the screamo these days. Fast, beautiful, chaotic.

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The previous bands are what I'd call more of the traditional screamo sound, while the next few bands start expanding into the Screamo/Post-rock and math/grind areas. I won't go on like I did above about these next bands, I'll just list them with a youtube/myspace link.

Screamo/post-hardcore/post-rock/instrumental/other


Screamo/math/grind/emo-violence




also i'm a reaver now woooo~~

Last edit: 2009-05-24 13:28:03


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  PH   United States. May 24 2009 13:15. Posts 3417Profile Blog 
Nice post.

I honestly can't stand screamo music...all the stuff I've tried severely lacks maturity both thematically and musically, which completely turns me off. Then again, I'm a pretentious prick about my music...

Anyway, I hope you do more of these.

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BTW, I think you meant to write, "post-hardcore" in your description of the genre, not "post-rock" here: "...and instrumental breakdowns similar to post-rock."
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  DeathSpank   United States. May 24 2009 13:30. Posts 671Profile Blog 
screamo-people screaming over pop punk.
yes.
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  boesthius   United States. May 24 2009 13:31. Posts 3475Profile Blog 

On May 24 2009 13:15 PH wrote:
Nice post.

I honestly can't stand screamo music...all the stuff I've tried severely lacks maturity both thematically and musically, which completely turns me off. Then again, I'm a pretentious prick about my music...

Anyway, I hope you do more of these.

EDIT
BTW, I think you meant to write, "post-hardcore" in your description of the genre, not "post-rock" here: "...and instrumental breakdowns similar to post-rock."

yeah i forgot to put in post-hardcore as well, but i left post-rock because some of the artists - Daitro and Envy - have 6+ minute long minimalist instrumental breakdowns throughout a lot of their songs; which i equate to post-rock influence
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  boesthius   United States. May 24 2009 13:33. Posts 3475Profile Blog 

On May 24 2009 13:30 DeathSpank wrote:
screamo-people screaming over pop punk.

nice post brodooski, especially when you're completely wrong.
r u for rela
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  DeathSpank   United States. May 24 2009 13:36. Posts 671Profile Blog 

On May 24 2009 13:33 boesthius wrote:

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nice post brodooski, especially when you're completely wrong.

no im not.
yes.
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  ~_~   Canada. May 24 2009 14:13. Posts 119Profile Blog 
this is a pretty neat post

op you might like this band if you dont know them already, they are the best : D




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  PH   United States. May 24 2009 14:49. Posts 3417Profile Blog 

On May 24 2009 13:31 boesthius wrote:

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yeah i forgot to put in post-hardcore as well, but i left post-rock because some of the artists - Daitro and Envy - have 6+ minute long minimalist instrumental breakdowns throughout a lot of their songs; which i equate to post-rock influence

orly?

I always liken post-rock to the likes of Red Sparowes, Pelican and Russian Circles. I'll admit I haven't really looked all that deeply into the genre, but yeah.
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  HamerD   United Kingdom. May 24 2009 15:12. Posts 1922Profile Blog 
god i hate whining teenagers but still nice comprehensive post
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  pangshai   Singapore. May 24 2009 15:47. Posts 2719Profile Blog 
great post though screamo isn't really my type. waiting for the other genres of music now.
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  Yizuo   Germany. May 24 2009 17:09. Posts 1265Profile 
Thank You!
Liked Circle Takes the Square the most!
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  boesthius   United States. May 24 2009 17:21. Posts 3475Profile Blog 

On May 24 2009 14:49 PH wrote:

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orly?

I always liken post-rock to the likes of Red Sparowes, Pelican and Russian Circles. I'll admit I haven't really looked all that deeply into the genre, but yeah.

imo to ME pelican and russian circles are more post-metal/instrumental metal than post-rock, but post-rock is so broad that you could easily include it in there. daigomi's blog on post-rock is pretty damn accurate, although i would have to disagree on 65daysofstatic.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=77514

and i take back my previous statement about Mogwai being > than GY!BE. after i posted that i listened to GY!BE a LOT and grew to love it a lot.

On May 24 2009 15:12 HamerD wrote:
god i hate whining teenagers but still nice comprehensive post


thanks, although i don't really think lyrics about philosophy and today's society are 'whining teenagers', but to each his own.


On May 24 2009 17:09 Yizuo wrote:
Thank You!
Liked Circle Takes the Square the most!

your welcome, CTTS is super good; i really love their latest album a lotttttt.
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  Hundredth   United Kingdom. May 25 2009 05:19. Posts 142Profile 
Oh man, add some true post-hardcore damn it like Million Dead

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  floor exercise   Canada. May 25 2009 06:14. Posts 1184Profile Blog 
I don't even bother trying to keep up with screamo bands anymore but one of my favorite bands was Dawn Treader http://www.myspace.com/dawntreadermd which were a sick 7 piece screamo band then they formed the summer we went west which was fucking awesome emo
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  boesthius   United States. May 25 2009 06:17. Posts 3475Profile Blog 

On May 25 2009 05:19 Hundredth wrote:
Oh man, add some true post-hardcore damn it like Million Dead



million dead is amazing brodooski, i just posted what i felt was 'entry-level', if you want to use that term.


On May 25 2009 06:14 floor exercise wrote:
I don't even bother trying to keep up with screamo bands anymore but one of my favorite bands was Dawn Treader http://www.myspace.com/dawntreadermd which were a sick 7 piece screamo band then they formed the summer we went west which was fucking awesome emo

damn dawn treader was good, i'll have to look up The Summer We Went West for sure.
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  Kersed   United States. July 21 2009 21:57. Posts 31Profile 
How can you post Sailboats, but no Loma Prieta? For shame.
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  Foucault   Sweden. July 21 2009 23:37. Posts 1715Profile Blog 
sweet guide man

The aesthetics of screamo are very hardcore-ish; clothes, style, energy etc

And yeah screamo comes from hardcore punk so it's logical for the genres to sound very alike. Screamo can be a little too chaotic for me at times, while I do enjoy some screamo. The singing can also be too annoying in the long run with all the screaming. I mean hardcore bands scream too but it's sometimes less "panicky" screaming.

So I love hardcore punk, and like a little bit of screamo.
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  .Ix   Philippines. July 22 2009 02:37. Posts 241Profile Blog 
can someone pleeeeeeeeease tell me what the hell that "post-" crap means?
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  d1v   Germany. July 22 2009 08:55. Posts 769Profile Blog 

On May 24 2009 13:30 DeathSpank wrote:
screamo-people screaming over pop punk.

Tro og frender til kirkegård bæres. Vond tid venter nær på dem som stirret seg blind för å se Gud..
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  Daigomi   South Africa. July 22 2009 16:28. Posts 2124Profile Blog 
Haha, boest, I'll try to write a guide again soonish. I've just been swamped with work lately
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