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 RoieTRS United States. May 29 2009 08:01. Posts 1026 | Profile Blog |
Me and my friends kind of cycle through games. First it was Doom, then starcraft, then diablo 2, dawn of war, etc.
They want to play starcraft again. They know that I'm 'super good' (I can't make it to D+), so it should say something about their skill level.
We want to do a 3v1, but even with their skill level, I think i'll lose, because of the economy of 3 bases to the economy of 1 is very disadvantageous.
What map would you recommend this game be played on to help me stand a chance?
edit: no fastest map, money map, or anything like that. It needs to be a straight up map.Last edit: 2009-05-29 08:01:53
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 b3h47pte United States. May 29 2009 08:01. Posts 878 | Profile Blog |
| Gah. you ninja-edited that one >.> Last edit: 2009-05-29 08:02:13 |
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 infinity21  Canada. May 29 2009 08:13. Posts 4483 | Profile Blog |
| how about that old 2v2 map called iron curtain or something? you could take out 1 guy pretty fast then do 1v2 |
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 Wohmfg United Kingdom. May 29 2009 08:13. Posts 296 | Profile |
| I guess a macro based map would favour you, a good way to get a head is to out-macro them rather than put your one base against their three. Something like Andromeda or Colosseum II? |
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| RoieTRS United States. May 29 2009 08:16. Posts 1026 | Profile Blog |
On May 29 2009 08:13 infinity21 wrote:
how about that old 2v2 map called iron curtain or something? you could take out 1 guy pretty fast then do 1v2
Wasn't there a map similar to iron curtain?
I remember a famous game where a protoss player had a DA in a shuttle moving it to the other side, and a terran player was following it with a dropship, but the shuttle dropped the da and it mind controlled the dropship.
Was that iron curtain? I think it, too, was a desert tilesetLast edit: 2009-05-29 08:17:43 |
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 tobi9999 United States. May 29 2009 08:17. Posts 226 | Profile |
doesn't matter, people who have just started playing starcraft don't know how to spend their minerals. at 15 minutes you can be maxed out and roll them(any D level player should be able to do this).
Use some awesome macro based map like Andro where you can take 3 bases and an island
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 seppolevne Canada. May 29 2009 08:35. Posts 755 | Profile Blog |
| God's Garden might work, easy 3 gas, one choke (I doubt they will drop, take high ground etc.) 200/200 BCs or Carriers, gg |
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 Saracen United States. May 29 2009 08:43. Posts 2310 | Profile Blog |
as long as they don't know BOs, you're fine
they'll probably go like gate (supply block) forge 3x cannon (another supply block) so just play super greedy and then roll them (yes, you should be able to out-macro 3 complete noobs)
they won't be able to macro decently or keep up worker production too
just make sure there's like a no rush stipulation or something
i recently played a 1v2 with two noobs and it was like playing a D/D- rank player |
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 Grobyc Canada. May 29 2009 08:44. Posts 5315 | Profile Blog |
| LT? Be Terran and turtle like a mofo using dropship play to harass the fuck out of them. Noobs either build a whole fuckload of cannons surround their base or none at all usually. |
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| EchOne United States. May 29 2009 08:59. Posts 432 | Profile Blog |
I agree with the people who said macro maps with easy 3 bases are the best for this. Andromeda and Arcadia would be my picks of choice since they also have air expos unlike more modern maps like Colosseum and God's Garden.
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 klizzer May 29 2009 09:10. Posts 456 | Profile |
What race do you play?
You could also force them to play a gay map they have no idea of how to play (like Troy), but I can't think of any specific strat right now  Well, assuming your macro is good, you could straight up out-macro them... |
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 Archaic Taiwan. May 29 2009 09:22. Posts 3031 | Profile Blog |
Troy? Kill your assimilators, take the semi-island, and start out with massive dropship harassment. Storm dropping, tank drops, anything with quick and easy damage versus anyone who can't react fast enough.
Try to find a way to take complete advantage of their inability to respond properly or quickly to the attack. As I said, reavers or storm drops, vultures with mines and tanks, lurkers and ling snipes (hit their main building with 24 lings focusing). |
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 konadora Singapore. May 29 2009 09:31. Posts 17582 | Profile Blog |
| Anything except Blood Bath |
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 Mastermind Canada. May 29 2009 09:32. Posts 2954 | Profile Blog |
| On troy you could probably lock one or two guys in before they even realise what you are doing. They will then proceed to tech to dropships/shuttles very slowly while you kill the guy you didnt block in. Then just mass expo and rape. |
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| CharlieMurphy United States. May 29 2009 09:52. Posts 17055 | Profile Blog |
On May 29 2009 09:31 konadora wrote:
Anything except Blood Bath
I win 2v1's on BB all the time vs noobs. Happens a lot where a 4th never joins and I just say fuck it and start. You can either all out rush them or de up and tech rush them. Goal is just to not let their x2 econ get into full effect.
Best for 3v1 would probably be:
Colliseum
God's Garden
Andromeda
Iron Curtain
Zodiac
I wouldn't suggest island maps though because this will allow them to freely tech up faster. And you don't want them to tech for free. You want them to play their standard slow crappy style and have weaker units.
I would probably use some blizzard maps with more than 4 start locations too, like:
Predators
Chain Lightning
Meat Grinder
Hunters
If they suck at scouting you can get some free bases up.
Any maps where you can abuse the terrain would be good as well. So like if you chose terran on (6)winter conquest for example.Last edit: 2009-05-29 09:59:28 |
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 maga33 United States. May 29 2009 10:47. Posts 108 | Profile |
| Just play on andro. Go terran or zerg and bunk/lurk down. Their armies will melt into your wall. Then, proceed to take the island maps and finally, push with a 3/3 I do 1 v 3s with my nub friends and as long as they dont know build orders, they will be slow in their tech and unit production. |
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 Reason United Kingdom. May 29 2009 11:20. Posts 1205 | Profile Blog |
| 815 and watch hilarity ensue. |
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| RoieTRS United States. May 29 2009 12:25. Posts 1026 | Profile Blog |
Hahahaha well we played some games...
On game one, andromeda, they worker rushed me.... AND FAILED. It was like 12 workers vs. 9 probes. I held it off easily, tried to do a forge fe (they were p, z, and t), but the worker rush through me off, and i lost because i am an inexperienced D player. I should have won.
Game 2, they did the same thing, same map. They won this time.
Game 3 on bgh. This one was really fun. I spawned at top left, and T spawned at top mid. I didnt want to kill him really fast (cuz we're friends rite?), like rush, but I went 2gate to be safe from the others. I attacked him to keep him on the defensive, but then they ran by with goons and zerglings, killed my expo. luckily, it was bgh, and i could have 5 gates pumping out units at this point, and pushed their lurker contain off with reavers and zeals and goons. I used DTs to kill the T tanks, then killed him. By this point, i had 180/200, attacked the P, who was spamming carriers, easily taken out by about 5 storms and a few goons. Then i Killed Z. This is the game I wanted.
Then they left. Was fun. Thanks for the advice.Last edit: 2009-05-29 12:30:02 |
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