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[Q] Can racing sims teach you bad habits?

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  infinity21  *   Canada. June 04 2009 10:25. Posts 4479Profile Blog 
So I'm thinking of buying the Logitech G25 mostly for playing games and partially to get acquainted with driving manual. Now, I plan on getting a manual car in 3 years when I graduate. My primary concern is that I might get bad habits (whatever they may be) from using a racing wheel in sims for a lengthy period of time.

I heard live for speed is pretty realistic as simulations go so I'm planning on playing that. I'd be glad to hear any other recommendations.

I know driving a real car is better for learning but I'm not really in a situation to spend that much time & money atm so that's unfortunately not an option.

tl;dr
Will I pick up bad habits from playing racing sims if I use a racing wheel?
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  paper   June 04 2009 10:28. Posts 7281Profile Blog 
...no
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  xDark.Carnivalx   United States. June 04 2009 10:30. Posts 1320Profile Blog 
uh, no, you won't. a racing sim isn't real.
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  infinity21  *   Canada. June 04 2009 10:32. Posts 4479Profile Blog 
I meant by playing with the logitech g25 racing wheel if that changes anything
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  SpiritoftheTunA   United States. June 04 2009 10:40. Posts 4736Profile Blog 
you really really wont, the amount of feedback (i.e. reactions to your actions) in real driving should totally override any habits you pick up playing games
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  Lemonwalrus   United States. June 04 2009 10:43. Posts 3044Profile Blog 
It is completely different, you will be fine.
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  Archaic   Taiwan. June 04 2009 10:53. Posts 3031Profile Blog 
You'll probably be running over people, crashing into buildings, and trying to escape the cops, so yeah, I'd say no bad habits.
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  TommyG   United States. June 04 2009 11:06. Posts 102Profile Blog 
driving really isn't that hard.

unless you're female
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  micronesia   United States. June 04 2009 11:08. Posts 9999Profile Blog 
The toy standard transmission will do little to nothing to help you with learning to drive a stick IRL just so you know lol
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  Mastermind   Canada. June 04 2009 11:09. Posts 2951Profile Blog 
lol this is ridiculous. its a video game dude. rofl
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  mcgriddle   United States. June 04 2009 11:22. Posts 114Profile 
you are putting way too much effort in to learning standard... its really not that hard- first time outside of driver's ed I drove manual. First day I was on big roads (and that car had very touchy clutch)
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  MamiyaOtaru   United States. June 04 2009 11:24. Posts 605Profile Blog 
Might help you get used to when you should use the clutch and shift, but it won't really be like using a real clutch.

It shouldn't hurt, but I don't think it would be that much help either.
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  deathgod6   United States. June 04 2009 11:27. Posts 3360Profile Blog 
I wouldn't have expected a quality poster to be asking such silly questions. :X

It probably won't affect your real life driving skills, unless you are one of those crazy twelve year old kids who kill people after playing GTA or something. Or that guy that killed his parents because they took his Halo away.
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  infinity21  *   Canada. June 04 2009 11:47. Posts 4479Profile Blog 
To clarify, my concern is that if I play actual simulations (read: not GTA or NFS), then the timing of shifting or something could be off when I drive a manual irl and I damage my car when I get it.

I knew it was a stretch but I wanted to make sure before I blow $300 for a racing wheel.
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  fusionsdf   Canada. June 04 2009 11:48. Posts 14043Profile Blog 
yes


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  PanoRaMa   United States. June 04 2009 11:53. Posts 4234Profile Blog 
it (the games themselves) teaches good habits too fwiw but i'm not nearly at all qualified (in terms of both manual tranny rl cars + racing sims) enough to give good advice. although, i do have gt5p and a racing wheel (some 150-200 dollar one from logitech or something), there is no clutch and the stick is dinky and stupid (and only has 2 directions, up(shift) and down(shift)). so as far as a "real driving" physiological experience it's way off.

but yes the most i can say is, if anything, if you're not a very technical driver, racing sims will teach you some certain, helpful things. nothing too crazy, but technical stuff like understanding weight distribution of cars/diffs between rwd and fwd, cornering and acceleration/brake timing so as to keep efficient speeds but minimize over/under steer, blah blah blah
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  infinity21  *   Canada. June 04 2009 11:56. Posts 4479Profile Blog 

On June 04 2009 11:48 fusionsdf wrote:
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hahha that's pretty funny

I misread that as "the driving lines in online racing and real driving (racing) has become dangerously blurred"
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  micronesia   United States. June 04 2009 11:58. Posts 9999Profile Blog 

On June 04 2009 11:22 mcgriddle wrote:
you are putting way too much effort in to learning standard... its really not that hard- first time outside of driver's ed I drove manual. First day I was on big roads (and that car had very touchy clutch)

Do you also have a 37 inch penis, 400 iq, and 38 hot girlfriends?

This is not good advice to be giving someone who has never driven a stick before. Most people will at least stall a few times etc when learning from scratch... don't make it sound like you are a moron if you can't drive it almost instantly.
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  eXigent.   Canada. June 04 2009 12:00. Posts 963Profile Blog 

On June 04 2009 11:47 infinity21 wrote:
To clarify, my concern is that if I play actual simulations (read: not GTA or NFS), then the timing of shifting or something could be off when I drive a manual irl and I damage my car when I get it.

I knew it was a stretch but I wanted to make sure before I blow $300 for a racing wheel.


driving a standard is soooooooo much different than a video game. For 1, you cant feel your friction point in a video game. In a car, you need to practice finding your friction point with your clutch. This takes a few weeks before you feel really comfortable. A driving sim wont help you at all for this. For example, learning how to NOT stall your car by releasing your clutch and pressing your gas properly. Every car is different, so really there is no way to practice other than being in the car you bought. Now, stopping and going up steep hills is even more tricky, and no videogame will be able to mimic that.

Driving is super easy, so it's hard to make a videogame that mimics that, because if they did, then where would be the challenge in the game? You'd just be drivin around bein bored to shit and back lol.
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