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  GGQ   Canada. June 09 2009 10:48. Posts 863Profile Blog 
I didn't think it was worth its own thread in Broodwar, since someone can probably answer it pretty quick and that will be that. With no furthur ado;

Does anyone know if racepicking or playing random is legal in Korean leagues? Players never do it, of course, but I wonder if it's a KeSPA rule that players have to pick a race and register with it, or what exactly the rule is.

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  blabber   United States. June 09 2009 10:49. Posts 2404Profile Blog 
they have to go with the race that they're scheduled to play. They can't just go into the game lobby and be like "oh you know what I think I'm gonna play Terran instead."
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  Caller   United States. June 09 2009 10:52. Posts 3504Profile Blog 
which isn't to say they have to play the same race, savior swapped to terran vs. gorush once
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  Plexa   New Zealand. June 09 2009 10:53. Posts 16234Profile Blog 
The just have to announce what race they are going to play the week before. Thats the only restriction.

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  Dgtl   Canada. June 09 2009 10:53. Posts 653Profile Blog 
A player can pick any race for a tourny, but it has to be before the tournament started and they can't play that race in any other leagues if they were already playing their main race in them.
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  pachi   Australia. June 09 2009 11:08. Posts 3733Profile 

On June 09 2009 10:53 Dgtl wrote:
A player can pick any race for a tourny, but it has to be before the tournament started and they can't play that race in any other leagues if they were already playing their main race in them.


In the tournament that Plexa linked, Savior told kespa beforehand that only in the case if he was to play versus GoRush in their group (Jangbi v Savior, Shine v Gorush) he would be playing Terran. He played all other games as Zerg.
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  fusionsdf   Canada. June 09 2009 11:14. Posts 14043Profile Blog 

On June 09 2009 10:53 Dgtl wrote:
A player can pick any race for a tourny, but it has to be before the tournament started and they can't play that race in any other leagues if they were already playing their main race in them.


I've seen the first part before (i.e you can pick Zerg, Terran, Protoss or Random for a specific match, as long as you give one week's notice), but I've never see the second part you posted. Do you have a source for it?
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  Plexa   New Zealand. June 09 2009 11:19. Posts 16234Profile Blog 

On June 09 2009 10:53 Dgtl wrote:
A player can pick any race for a tourny, but it has to be before the tournament started and they can't play that race in any other leagues if they were already playing their main race in them.

No this is incorrect. The only criterion for changing race is they have to alert KeSPA one week prior to the match - in Proleague, MSL or OSL. This is so the other players have enough time to practice for this change.
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  tyr   France. June 09 2009 11:24. Posts 378Profile 

On June 09 2009 11:14 fusionsdf wrote:
(i.e you can pick Zerg, Terran, Protoss or Random for a specific match,


Are you sure he can say he picks random and then uses random ?
Don't they have to pick one of the 3 races ?
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  IntoTheWow   Argentina. June 09 2009 11:53. Posts 25193Profile Blog 
No, they can pick random. Happened a lot in 2v2's (to get ZZ vs XX)
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  Grobyc   Canada. June 09 2009 12:14. Posts 5315Profile Blog 

On June 09 2009 11:53 IntoTheWow wrote:
No, they can pick random. Happened a lot in 2v2's (to get ZZ vs XX)

Mhmm. They only allow 1 Zerg per team in 2v2's. Therefore people just go ZRvsXX, with a 1/3 chance to get 2 Z's
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  IntoTheWow   Argentina. June 09 2009 12:35. Posts 25193Profile Blog 
Yeah, that's what i meant
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  fusionsdf   Canada. June 09 2009 13:06. Posts 14043Profile Blog 

On June 09 2009 12:14 Grobyc wrote:

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Mhmm. They only allow 1 Zerg per team in 2v2's. Therefore people just go ZRvsXX, with a 1/3 chance to get 2 Z's


although interestingly, its not a 1/3rd chance (I think it ended up being 1/6? I havent seen that topic in a while)
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  Grobyc   Canada. June 09 2009 13:06. Posts 5315Profile Blog 
Shit that was some fucking sick play by (Z)GoRush haha.

First time I've seen ensnare used in ZvT and one of the few times I've seen ensnare used effectively too lol
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  Rotodyne   United States. June 09 2009 13:23. Posts 943Profile 

On June 09 2009 13:06 fusionsdf wrote:

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although interestingly, its not a 1/3rd chance (I think it ended up being 1/6? I havent seen that topic in a while)


I thought that was just if both people went Random, 1/27 chance of getting ZZ
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  Exteray   United States. June 09 2009 13:35. Posts 499Profile Blog 

On June 09 2009 13:23 Rotodyne wrote:

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I thought that was just if both people went Random, 1/27 chance of getting ZZ


If both people go random, there is 1/9 chance of getting ZZ. ;-)
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  Fen   Australia. June 09 2009 13:42. Posts 1494Profile Blog 
Actually theres not. The random race generator in starcraft isnt truely random. It seems to try and even out the different races. If your playing a ZR vs ZP for example, there are already 2 zergs in the game and the random generator will be biased towards terran and protoss.

There was a thread a while ago about this.
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  LuckyFool   United States. June 09 2009 13:45. Posts 1585Profile Blog 
I remember the week buildup and anticipation of Savior playing as TERRAN in that TV match a few years back. It felt so wrong watching him playing as Terran. hehe.
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  ForTheSwarm   United States. June 09 2009 13:45. Posts 376Profile 

On June 09 2009 13:06 fusionsdf wrote:

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although interestingly, its not a 1/3rd chance (I think it ended up being 1/6? I havent seen that topic in a while)


It would be a 1/6th probability to get ZZ if BOTH players went random. However, with one going Z and the other random the probability reduces to 1/3.

Possibilities for RR vs XXX:

ZZ vs XX       TT vs XX
ZT vs XX       TP vs XX
ZP vs XX       PP vs XX

Only 3 possibilities for ZR vs XX:

ZZ vs XX
ZT vs XX
ZP vs XX

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  Mindcrime   United States. June 09 2009 13:55. Posts 3880Profile 

On June 09 2009 13:45 For_The_Swarm wrote:

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It would be a 1/6th probability to get ZZ if BOTH players went random. However, with one going Z and the other random the probability reduces to 1/3.

Possibilities for RR vs XXX:

ZZ vs XX       TT vs XX
ZT vs XX       TP vs XX
ZP vs XX       PP vs XX


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TZ vs XX
PZ vs XX
PT vs XX

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