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| lokiM United States. July 07 2009 13:26. Posts 3364 | Profile Blog # |
| just wait til you start playing higher level terrans, they never let you breathe. congrats though |
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 Arrian United States. July 07 2009 13:28. Posts 811 | Profile Blog # |
| Uggh I'm jealous. I got hit by that silly fast tank build 3 times today. Even with cross spots on andromeda the mutas weren't out in time. |
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 lazz Australia. July 07 2009 13:29. Posts 3109 | Profile Blog # |
| ZvT at high levels is argueably the hardest matchup. So much shit that the zerg has to worry about. I believe it's also slightly imbalanced at pro level, something like 52-53% win rate for the terran, would have to look it up though. |
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| Skyze Canada. July 07 2009 13:30. Posts 2323 | Profile Blog # |
i quit playing sc back in like 2000 basically because on gamei, playing ZvT vs korean terrans was retarded. It was the age of the "vessel cloud" and savior wasnt around yet so all I had for "inspiration" was Yellow and Chojja, and while they are great, they had obvious weakness vs terran.. So much that I eventually gave up and quit for afew years -_-
When I came back, switch to protoss cause I dont wanna play vs terran. Its sad, cause I love zvz and zvp, but i hate zvt with a passion. grr |
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| Grobyc Canada. July 07 2009 13:34. Posts 16944 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2009 13:26 lokiM wrote:
just wait til you start playing higher level terrans, they never let you breathe. congrats though
On July 07 2009 13:29 lazz wrote:
ZvT at high levels is argueably the hardest matchup. So much shit that the zerg has to worry about. I believe it's also slightly imbalanced at pro level, something like 52-53% win rate for the terran, would have to look it up though.
I know T_T
That's why I'm starting to practice now. I wouldn't say I've been dodging Terrans on iCCup, because if I join and he's Terran I'll still play, but if the game name is like "1:1 D+/C- Me T you Z" I'll avoid it because ZvT against bio is my worst MU and I've just barely made C- before so I'm sure I would get pwned. My ZvT against mech is pretty solid though actually. It's rather boring because most Terrans tend to turtle while I just macro and expand but I usually win it at least. |
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| Husky United States. July 07 2009 13:35. Posts 3361 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2009 13:30 Skyze wrote:
i quit playing sc back in like 2000 basically because on gamei, playing ZvT vs korean terrans was retarded. It was the age of the "vessel cloud" and savior wasnt around yet so all I had for "inspiration" was Yellow and Chojja, and while they are great, they had obvious weakness vs terran.. So much that I eventually gave up and quit for afew years -_-
When I came back, switch to protoss cause I dont wanna play vs terran. Its sad, cause I love zvz and zvp, but i hate zvt with a passion. grr
dude, thats why you play a second race for the matchup you hate most.
like myself, I LOVE PvZ and PvP but HATE PvT... though I dont play a second race for that I just dont play it.
Actually.. I havent played hardly at all lately...
hrm... |
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| Grobyc Canada. July 07 2009 13:36. Posts 16944 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2009 13:30 Skyze wrote:
i quit playing sc back in like 2000 basically because on gamei, playing ZvT vs korean terrans was retarded. It was the age of the "vessel cloud" and savior wasnt around yet so all I had for "inspiration" was Yellow and Chojja, and while they are great, they had obvious weakness vs terran.. So much that I eventually gave up and quit for afew years -_-
When I came back, switch to protoss cause I dont wanna play vs terran. Its sad, cause I love zvz and zvp, but i hate zvt with a passion. grr
Same -_-
If that game were titled "1:1 D+/C- Me Z" then I'd join for sure, because not only is ZvZ fun, but it's also my best MU 
TBH I think I play ZvZ around a C/C+'ish level even though I'm D+/C-'ish |
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| Arrian United States. July 07 2009 13:37. Posts 811 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2009 13:29 lazz wrote:
ZvT at high levels is argueably the hardest matchup. So much shit that the zerg has to worry about. I believe it's also slightly imbalanced at pro level, something like 52-53% win rate for the terran, would have to look it up though.
It's wayyyyy more than 52-53%. A conservative analysis approximates 62% iirc, but it's definitely more than 52-53%. Thank god the matchup is fun or else I would positively hate it like I do ZvZ. |
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| numLoCK Canada. July 07 2009 13:38. Posts 1413 | Profile Blog # |
Ahaha I've made a Z offracing account on iccup and at D levels I am
100% ZvZ
~50% ZvP
0% ZvT
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| Mindcrime United States. July 07 2009 13:42. Posts 5927 | Profile # |
On July 07 2009 13:37 Arrian wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 07 2009 13:29 lazz wrote:
ZvT at high levels is argueably the hardest matchup. So much shit that the zerg has to worry about. I believe it's also slightly imbalanced at pro level, something like 52-53% win rate for the terran, would have to look it up though.
It's wayyyyy more than 52-53%. A conservative analysis approximates 62% iirc, but it's definitely more than 52-53%. Thank god the matchup is fun or else I would positively hate it like I do ZvZ.
It's right around 54%
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82758 |
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| Methos United States. July 07 2009 13:44. Posts 206 | Profile Blog # |
| Man I wish this kind of awesomeness would happen to me. Congratulations though! |
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| Strayline United States. July 07 2009 13:44. Posts 327 | Profile Blog # |
Hmmm I'm a noob Zerg too and while my best win % is ZvZ I don't really have illusions about it being my "best matchup."
ZvZ is just, lets face it, more random and that's really nice when you are a noob and can get some BO wins. I think the same thing that makes people like LZ and ret offrace instead of playing ZvZ makes it so attractive to noobs like me.
I think my ZvZ is D+/C-... it's just D+/C- ZvZ is a lot closer to C/C+ ZvZ than the other MUs.
Edit: Oh yeah and:
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| Arrian United States. July 07 2009 13:45. Posts 811 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2009 13:42 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 07 2009 13:37 Arrian wrote:
On July 07 2009 13:29 lazz wrote:
ZvT at high levels is argueably the hardest matchup. So much shit that the zerg has to worry about. I believe it's also slightly imbalanced at pro level, something like 52-53% win rate for the terran, would have to look it up though.
It's wayyyyy more than 52-53%. A conservative analysis approximates 62% iirc, but it's definitely more than 52-53%. Thank god the matchup is fun or else I would positively hate it like I do ZvZ.
It's right around 54% http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82758
Forgive me. I was speaking of post-fantasy TvZ. I did the numbers on that myself and it was closer to ~62%. |
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| Strayline United States. July 07 2009 13:47. Posts 327 | Profile Blog # |
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| Grobyc Canada. July 07 2009 13:47. Posts 16944 | Profile Blog # |
On July 07 2009 13:45 Arrian wrote:
Show nested quote +On July 07 2009 13:42 Mindcrime wrote:
On July 07 2009 13:37 Arrian wrote:
On July 07 2009 13:29 lazz wrote:
ZvT at high levels is argueably the hardest matchup. So much shit that the zerg has to worry about. I believe it's also slightly imbalanced at pro level, something like 52-53% win rate for the terran, would have to look it up though.
It's wayyyyy more than 52-53%. A conservative analysis approximates 62% iirc, but it's definitely more than 52-53%. Thank god the matchup is fun or else I would positively hate it like I do ZvZ.
It's right around 54% http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82758
Forgive me. I was speaking of post-fantasy TvZ. I did the numbers on that myself and it was closer to ~62%.
Forgiven~
lol. Imba matchup! Better be fixed in SC2! |
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| Grobyc Canada. July 07 2009 13:59. Posts 16944 | Profile Blog # | |
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 Harem United States. July 07 2009 14:45. Posts 9351 | Profile # |
I hate modern zvt so much.
So rage-inducing. |
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| Lobbo July 07 2009 15:35. Posts 986 | Profile Blog # |
| ZvT is fun and OK, I would have been playing Terran if TvP was more fun. I just love TvZ! |
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