 Aqo[il] Israel. July 09 2009 19:31. Posts 129 | Profile Blog |
I played two ZvPs with some guy, the first game was a one sided win for me and then I threw away the 2nd game even that I HAD A HUGE ADVANTAGE or so it seemed ;p
FFS.
It makes me RAGE SO MUCH. I shouldn't be losing like that, it's fucking retarded. Here's the replay: 0126 AqoZ MyStiQuEP.rep (2nd set)
Games like this make he hate the world and everything that lives on it. So much ANGER. FFFFFFFFFFffffff gonna stop iccuping for today -.-;
Like usually if I lose, I don't care, I'm totally cool with that, my opponent outplayed me, I learned new things, will improve in the future etc. But I was totally robbed off a ZvZ earlier today when I wasted EIGHT FUCKING LINGS after killing him a hatch (YES! OMG!).
Like, the game was in my pocket and then it FELL OUT. It kinda bumped my anger level up, but it was totally my fault for being retarded and greedy with my lings so I didn't care as much.
But now this ZvP is the straw that broke my back, RAGE MODE 100%, I hate this game ;_;
Just kidding I love Starcraft ;p gonna noob bash some D-/D players to relax. If any better players wanna point out what should've I done different in that game (to win) please do.
[edit] censored some rage :o
reading this post 5 minutes later is the funniest thing ever omgLast edit: 2009-07-09 19:55:24
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 Pads United Kingdom. July 09 2009 19:39. Posts 2367 | Profile Blog |
After some months away, two days ago I started playing bw. Yesterday I quit again. This game is too frustrating. 
edit: btw, you shouldn't be putting like "omg i shouldn't be losing to b- noobs, so retarded" or whatever when your only c rank with negative record. kinda contradictory.
lol, edit 2 to make my post make senseLast edit: 2009-07-09 20:00:36 |
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 WeSt Portugal. July 09 2009 19:40. Posts 289 | Profile Blog |
| if that's the same mystique I'm thinking it is he's not a b- noob lol |
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 lokiM United States. July 09 2009 19:44. Posts 1230 | Profile Blog |
I don't know where you thought you had an advantage, you killed a few buildings and that was it, your mid game was really bad and your opening build didn't make much sense
you had 3 hatcheries and under 20 drones 11minutes in and you built useless sunkens when you already had him contained
if you concentrated more on your 3 bases and added more drones/hatcheries you woulda done alot more dmg, you shouldn't be calling others noob when you don't know how to build, he also had bad macro he just played standard and newb bashed you |
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| Aqo[il] Israel. July 09 2009 19:49. Posts 129 | Profile Blog |
sunks -> DTs
drones -> this is how Z works
and I had way more than 20 drones, I don't know how you counted but I can easily find 28 drones on the 10th minute. I added them whenever I had windows for it.
My advantage was the tech lead and the fact that P still couldn't secure a 3rd while I could easily produce units.Last edit: 2009-07-09 19:52:25 |
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| lokiM United States. July 09 2009 19:57. Posts 1230 | Profile Blog |
my point was you built sunkens before hatcheries, you dont need 3 sunkens and a spore to kill 1 dt
you can simply defend with hydras if you have him contained
you never had an advantage, stop saying you had 1, this was a basic pvz rape |
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 Yaqoob Canada. July 09 2009 20:04. Posts 2553 | Profile Blog |
| I'm going to watch that rep but if that's Mystique (the one from German) then he is a B-/B Protoss irrc |
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| Medzo United States. July 09 2009 20:06. Posts 96 | Profile Blog |
I watched the game. You never had an advantage, ever.
Uh first off you have no drone saturation at all. Like at your main you didnt even have more drones than mineral nodes for atleast 14 minutes into the game. Your expansion drone saturation wasn't great either.
Second you threw away units left and right for small gains. The first being you made him cancel a single cannon at the cost of all your initial lings. You threw away your 3 mutas, hydras, and lurkers to snipe a building. Then you just kinda ran your units in late game at expansions to kill a few cannons while everything died to the rest of the cannons and the 2 reavers. You really need dark swarm for that kind of aggression.
Speaking of dark swarm, you had no defilers.
The protoss pretty much stomped you. Dont let your emotions get you so worked up, just look at what you did wrong and fix it. You don't look like you're a bad player you just kinda made some dumb agressive mistakes and had a bad economy going. You had some good templar snipes. Also remember to use defilers with your ultra/ling. |
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| Yaqoob Canada. July 09 2009 20:14. Posts 2553 | Profile Blog |
I just watched the game and you never had any advantage during the game. I would say the Protoss was in the lead after his 3 zeal harass. I don't think the game should've lasted that long. If he has 2-3 temps when he had his huge zeal/goon/archon army on the top left of the map then he would've won when you attacked down he ramp but he didn't have any storms so the game just dragged on and he just built upon his advatange. Also you kept throwing away 2-3 ultras + groups of lings at expos and suiciding them to cannons and reavers.
Also, Mystique is pretty good. I guess the lurkers kinda confused him a bit cause he had 1600+ minerals for a long long time. |
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 MaGic~PhiL Germany. July 09 2009 20:16. Posts 5358 | Profile Blog |
| Mystique sucks indeed and u should be mad u lost ;D |
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 Divinek Canada. July 09 2009 20:20. Posts 1357 | Profile Blog |
| would you care to post the game you won as well? I'm curious what kind of cheese you pulled off to net that game. |
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| Yaqoob Canada. July 09 2009 20:38. Posts 2553 | Profile Blog |
| I'm also interested in seeing the game that you won against Mystique. |
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 tracer Korea (South). July 09 2009 20:47. Posts 657 | Profile |
don't understand how you can say you had a "huge advantange." from the replay looks like you just got raped.
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| FortuneSyn Brazil. July 09 2009 20:52. Posts 258 | Profile Blog |
you opened with 3 mutas, some lurkers, and some hydra on 3 hatches.
If you are going mutas straight out from spire (11+), having 3 hatcheries is fine (3 or 4 depending on opening and how fast you teched to muta)... If you are going hydra/lurk/ling, you need to set up 5 hatches first, with the 4th and 5th for production.
late game, if you want to base raid bases that have HT or reaver support, you need swarm. You need need swarm to fight an archon reaver ball.
The biggest points you should focus on is improving your econ management, not wasting units with overagression (though smart agression is very good), and having a solid opening for a solid midgame. |
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 Manifesto7 Osaka. July 09 2009 21:31. Posts 17680 | Profile Blog |
| At 14 minutes 2 of your main mineral patches was still 1000+ |
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 kAra Germany. July 09 2009 21:54. Posts 631 | Profile | |
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 Marine50 Australia. July 09 2009 21:57. Posts 1544 | Profile |
On July 09 2009 21:31 Manifesto7 wrote:At 14 minutes 2 of your main mineral patches was still 1000+
How do you avoid that? Why is that bad? Explain for me???? |
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| Aqo[il] Israel. July 09 2009 22:04. Posts 129 | Profile Blog |
I don't see why you people are making a big deal of the low drone count... I've seen A- ZvP replays where Z had like 17 drones on minerals on the 12th minute, depending on how the game pans out Z can't always pump drones like crazy, or else if P is smart he'll just attack at that point and win, Z has no units gg...
Anyway since people asked for the 1st game here it is: 0125 MyStiQuEP AqoZ.rep
If you expect to find some epic cheese brace for disappointment, the most cheesy thing was P trying to get cannons behind my 3rd's mineral line. I love when protoss players do that, yes, give me a free mineral advantage, why not :DLast edit: 2009-07-09 22:12:01 |
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| Kenny United States. July 09 2009 22:10. Posts 394 | Profile |
| Aqo, Zerg *can* play low eco but it doesn't mean that you have to. In fact I find that Zerg grows exponentially in power when you take that extra 30 seconds to pump some more drones in the beginning. Remember, just b/c some A- guy did it once, doesn't mean its always right. |
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| Aqo[il] Israel. July 09 2009 22:13. Posts 129 | Profile Blog |
Hey don't get me wrong, up until a week ago I'd have over 40 drones in 9 minutes and would easily get 5/3 ultra out of 3base. As it turns out, this is not the best way to play. Any smart player who scouts Z doing this rapes him ez. I'm changing my gameplay all the time trying out different styles and see what works best for me, and this style just works TONS better than spamming drones.
This is also why my icc account has such a shitty win ratio, the trying-out-stuff thing ;p every once in a while I try out creative cheese stuffs... every once in a while it works too LOL
I had a game EXACTLY like Jaedong vs Stork on Colosseum last week maan I wish I watched the leagues /before/ doing that xDLast edit: 2009-07-09 22:17:23 |
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