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On August 31 2009 13:46 AzureEye wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 13:37 ForSC2 wrote: So after all that Jaedong only makes 10m more a year? 140m to 150m base. (Which isn't even 10k btw.) Options are like if he wins this league or performs well he can make up to x amount. I hope Oz lost a lot of fans for this whole thing. Well I think 140-150 is still much better than his previous salary before the FA thing, which I believe was like 65 mil? Previous Salary was 140m which caused all this uproar in the first place.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=100255
On August 20 2009 17:27 Waxangel wrote: OZ is said to have offered Jaedong 140,000,000 won in base salary, with bonuses up to 60,000,000 won. Jaedong's mother is said to have requested a base salary in the region of of 180,000,000 won and/or triple his previous salary.
Original base salary and bonuses add up to 200m won.
Original from thread 140m + 60m options = 200m Speculated current (Probably not to be trusted.) 150m + options = 200m
If that ends up being true which is speculation at this point, that isn't a victory at all. That's just we'll say it's 10m higher so we can say Jaedong wins and don't lose all our fans.
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On August 31 2009 14:01 motbob wrote: "Truthfully, I couldn't practice well because I couldn't grip the mouse well."
Can you clarify this sentence?
That's literally his words, but I'm guessing it means that his thoughts were elsewhere even when he practiced?
Sleeping for real now. See you all in a couple of hours. Or longer if I oversleep. Will update then.
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THANK THE GODS.
my only regret is if jaedong is still being payed like a sub par gamer, it is really a shame. I can only hope that OZ has the ability to respect jaedong for the caliber of player that he has come to be, and pay him accordingly.
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On August 31 2009 10:51 Hyde wrote: Thank you for translating, this is such an important piece of news, really really happy that JD re-signed and is able to play next season. As selfish as it was, I didn't want him to retire...who really did. Well I hope the rumor of him getting paid 200 is at least true, 140/150 is too low, hopefully he still has those bonuses where he wins games he gets more money.
Now JD gets to play and stay on his team, lets hope his team gets their game on and lifts some of the burden. If the op is true he's getting paid the same amount... the base is the same the options add up to the same salary.
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Gratz to Jaedong, he really likes OZ and its good that the other teams respected that and didn't really bid on him seriously.
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Thank god Jaedong is still in the scene!
Although he is still wayyy underpaid. Can't be helped I guess.
edit: 444 post :S
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I'm going to guess that Jaedong begged his mother and father to stay in Oz. I really don't see their parents giving in on such a low offer.
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On August 31 2009 14:15 Whiplash wrote: Gratz to Jaedong, he really likes OZ and its good that the other teams respected that and didn't really bid on him seriously. How is that good? That's completely against the purpose of free agency. If they had made offers, it would've forced Oz to pay him even more. Instead, the power still lies entirely with the corporate side of SC and this outcome didn't change that at all. It's good that he's where he wants to be, but the fundamental problem with Kespa and Korea SC still exists.
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lol things stay the same basically only diff is shine retire
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It's very sad he doesn't get paid like the baller and bonjwa that he's become. That being said the bonuses that the contract includes are basically garaunteed with a player of JD's calibre. So basically he gets paid 200 million won per year which is still far below bisu's salary i believe and JD>Bisu and so life sucks.
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On August 31 2009 11:17 0neder wrote: What a world we live in, where $160,000 a year is somehow slavery...
It may not be fair market value, but don't call it slavery. That's just silly. Most of the other progamers work 10-12 hours a day in an environment where you have to be competitive to survive. Giving up most else during that period to even have a chance to get good. (I'm not just talking about things like girls and friends, I mean like giving up the ability to go outside. To have any sort of hobby.) For less than a McDonalds salary for the majority of players. Then the few players that get paid something in comparison are few and far between. It's not everyone that gets paid 160k it's like less people than I can count on my hand for all the progamers.
It's like working for 5-10k or less in an area that has the same or higher cost of living than America. And the very best you could do as a brass ring is be one of the maybe 5 people or less that get paid 160k or more for like a year or two or however long you can put up with practicing 14-16 hours a day before you burn out physically or mentally.
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On August 31 2009 14:47 jyLee wrote: It's very sad he doesn't get paid like the baller and bonjwa that he's become. That being said the bonuses that the contract includes are basically garaunteed with a player of JD's calibre. So basically he gets paid 200 million won per year which is still far below bisu's salary i believe and JD>Bisu and so life sucks.
sktelecom has enough money to fund bisu and fantasy and the olds like boxer and stuff
I guess hwaseung doesn't have enough money. it's all about the sponsers imo
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On August 31 2009 14:43 AlwaysGG wrote: lol things stay the same basically only diff is shine retire what about hyun and midas? i'm especially curious as to what's happening with midas as he has recieved so little attention for a player of his background
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this is the best news I've heard in ages
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Knew he'd stay with Oz
So refreshing in the days of modern sports with players and whole teams changing locations/sponsers all the time that a player is willing to be faithful to his team and team mates. The money truely isn't anything substantial. Someone like jaedong will be comfortable in life no matter what. Mental health is much more important than a salary.
Besides 150,000 grand a year to play broodwar around people you regard highly as your friends is pretty fuckin awesome.
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Shine . I feel bad for the guy.
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Hopefully JD gets 180million+ otherwise its a bad day for esports.
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What is Midas going to do? Will he go back to SKT1?
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On August 31 2009 14:50 ForSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 11:17 0neder wrote: What a world we live in, where $160,000 a year is somehow slavery...
It may not be fair market value, but don't call it slavery. That's just silly. Most of the other progamers work 10-12 hours a day in an environment where you have to be competitive to survive. Giving up most else during that period to even have a chance to get good. (I'm not just talking about things like girls and friends, I mean like giving up the ability to go outside. To have any sort of hobby.) For less than a McDonalds salary for the majority of players. Then the few players that get paid something in comparison are few and far between. It's not everyone that gets paid 160k it's like less people than I can count on my hand for all the progamers. It's like working for 5-10k or less in an area that has the same or higher cost of living than America. And the very best you could do as a brass ring is be one of the maybe 5 people or less that get paid 160k or more for like a year or two or however long you can put up with practicing 14-16 hours a day before you burn out physically or mentally.
Compared to Jaedong, there are people in 3rd world countries working in sweatshops in a worse environment, getting worse treatment. And they make less money than you or I spend on breakfast. And I wouldn't even call that slavery. Although it comes close.
As much as Jaedong's getting butt raped in contract negotiations, he's still getting paid quite a bit for his services. It just so happens to be a lot less than he would've gotten in a fair market. That's all.
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w00t as long as hes still playing, even if its for hwaseung :C
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