I will post if there's a rational reason to. You say it's not personal, but you sure act like it is.
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Gretorp
United States586 Posts
I will post if there's a rational reason to. You say it's not personal, but you sure act like it is. | ||
zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
Let's seriously stop with the wording issues. I'm not gonna apologize for the way I wrote the op. For me to talk to you beforehand to get your side of the story would've been a favor to you. I'm pretty sure you deserve this. On January 20 2010 11:28 Pr0terg wrote: I admit I haven't been active and I apologize. I have had computer problems and I apologize for that but that's not an excuse. I am not going to explain my personel problems here, because it will just sound like an excuse. I will be streaming soon however. I just got my camtasia back again. | ||
Gretorp
United States586 Posts
I stand by what I said in that I feel terrible that I haven't had the ability to stream as much as I wanted to. However, saying I'm a terrible for my actions, or that my actions are terrible is what i'm arguing. | ||
littlechava
United States7215 Posts
On January 20 2010 15:27 Pr0terg wrote: However, saying I'm a terrible for my actions, or that my actions are terrible is what i'm arguing. I agree with that argument. | ||
lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
From what I know, I like gretorp. He seems pretty cool. I think the OP is wholly justified. I think that you owe us, not just the people who gave, all of TL. I think that when people get defensive it makes them look wrong to third parties. | ||
G5
United States2832 Posts
On January 20 2010 11:17 heyoka wrote: I made a summary of events for gretorp because frankly I think honor is important on the internet and he was unable to keep even the simplest of promises after taking money from people. Some of this is secondhand knowledge, those who were there feel free to correct me. SUMMARY OF EVENTS: Gretorp buys plane ticket to Korea Gretorp realizes he cannot pay for said ticket he now indebted for Gretorp has genius plan, asks TL to donate because he: currently provides the "service" of a stream (this part he actually did) Will *in the future* give TL exclusive IEF coverage (this may not be his fault directly because all of the computers in korea are in korean / limited time between games / ief events / dinners) will do in depth commentary on his stream giving his thoughts during games and reasons for decisions, go over replays and continue helping students Gretorp recieves money, goes to Korea Gretorp sees people from TL for a confirmed 12 and a half minutes G5 Side Note: Was there actually ppl from TL there? I only remember some TL kids randomly showing up at a hookah bar for a short period of time. And they sure the fuck wern't interested in Gretorp, they were way too busy with Sea[Shield]. Gretorp tries to have sex with several Korean girls Slams some bitches Continues to not hang with said TL crew (did these people exist outside of being on Sea's cock?) Disappears from TL due to life responsabilities Does not deliver on a single promise, in fact does EVEN LESS upon his return to (wherever the fuck he is from) as he doesn't even continue streaming due to life responsabilities Gets hounded by some pissed off tl kids publicly instead of being politely asked whats going on in a PM Fixed Now I don't know if someone PM'd Gretorp asking what was up with this before this post occured and if the answer is posted somewhere in this thread, sorry but im not reading everything said in this ridiculous thread... But anyways, If someone came at me in a way that this thead came at Gretorp, I would say a big fuck you and not do a damn thing for anyone involved in this shit. At least just ask the guy wtf is up (in a PM), weather its life or w/e, don't be a dick and just post this shit publicly / create some uber lame e-drama and shit. Gretorp is a good, honest guy and if he doesn't have this on his high-priority list due to more important shit, then too fucking bad tl.net. Maybe he forgot it or just doesn't care about you guys. Too bad, so sad. If you want to know whats up, PM him. If he is just being a dick, then crucify him if you so feel the need. I have been duped out of worst shit then this with tournament admins etc... Shit happens. If Gretorp says he is going to stream and shit now, then he will. But don't expect him to go out of his way, cut some classes and shit to make you all love him. If he did, he wouldn't be the manly beast of a man that I know. He will do it when he has time / feels like it. He is not indebted to you guys no matter what you think. Anyone who sent him money was sending it to A) Make themselves feel / look good. B) Because they are friends with Gretorp or hope to be friends with Gretorp. C) Are filthy rich (Hi Rekrul <3) and like giving people money because (see A). Or D) They wanted to see Gretorp go to Korea and compete there for whatever reason. No one sent him money strictly for Streaming that he was already doing or for live IEF updates or w/e which most people would be getting n e ways from various shit all over the internet. Anyways... /end rant | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
From an outsider's perspective it's pretty hilarious to see Zulu getting attacked the most here. Yeah the community is overall very generous and ridiculously forgiving and thus quite easy to be taken advantage of, but still. | ||
G5
United States2832 Posts
On January 20 2010 16:09 Ver wrote: Threads like this have to be made in order to keep people honest. People keep talking about how awesome of a person Gretorp is and I'm sure he is but that is pretty much irrelevant here. Asking for money from the TL community is a big deal and it's absolutely reasonable to expect promises in these circumstances to be held. From an outsider's perspective it's pretty hilarious to see Zulu getting attacked the most here. Yeah the community is overall very generous and ridiculously forgiving and thus quite easy to be taken advantage of, but still. Bring it up with Small Claims International Internet Court. | ||
rredtooth
5458 Posts
On January 20 2010 16:11 G5 wrote: Couldn't the same be said of your internet rant about how people are attacking Gretorp?Bring it up with Small Claims International Internet Court. | ||
G5
United States2832 Posts
On January 20 2010 16:12 redtooth wrote: Couldn't the same be said of your internet rant about how people are attacking Gretorp? Yes it could. Difference being is that I won't PM 2 dozen people individually when this is already a public topic. The person who made this thread could have just addressed Gretorp without making this public right off the bat / turning it into e-drama / Gretorp having to appoligize and make more promises. 2nd post, is me basically saying that there is nothing you can do about it if Gretorp doesn't deliver. If he gives his word / says he will do it. All you can do is hope he does. | ||
EGLzGaMeR
United States1867 Posts
On January 20 2010 16:11 G5 wrote: Bring it up with Small Claims International Internet Court. LOL eric that post right there brought back so many funny memory's | ||
LuMiX
China5757 Posts
i need helps w/ my 1v1! lol | ||
zekie
Canada380 Posts
On January 20 2010 13:38 SCC-Faust wrote: Gretorp is a great guy. He wouldn't intentionally do something like this. i disagree, he hasn't messaged me back on msn or responded to any of the whispers i sent him on iCCup when he has been on. i 100% agree with this thread. -EDIT- hes always apologizing being oh so polite so he looks like the best guy, but IMO hes just dodging....hes been having computer problems before he went to korea...atleast that was his excuse to me | ||
wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
On January 20 2010 16:35 zekie wrote: hes always apologizing being oh so polite so he looks like the best guy, but IMO hes just dodging....hes been having computer problems before he went to korea...atleast that was his excuse to me He does that so you don't cry. | ||
zekie
Canada380 Posts
i'm not going to cry, its not that big of a deal since it benefits both of us, its just another promise that he didn't keep. (meaning he said what he would help me with would have to be after december 15th and it still hasn't happened) | ||
zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
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Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On January 20 2010 16:40 wishbones wrote: well i wud either choose to flame or or flame the flamers, but i dont even know this dood, wish out! go gretock! yeahh go gretock so helarious | ||
thopol
Japan4560 Posts
On January 20 2010 16:45 zekie wrote: i'm not going to cry, its not that big of a deal since it benefits both of us, its just another promise that he didn't keep. (meaning he said what he would help me with would have to be after december 15th and it still hasn't happened) I just meant he's being nice and giving you excuses instead of telling you he doesn't give a fuck. | ||
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