Victory is everything, even if it means to faint during a match.
Foreword
"The Magician of Game Control" (hopefully you know what I mean), GoRush (Team GO), has finally climbed up to the top since the NHN OSL.
He does not have superb micro, nor jaw-dropping timing, but when it comes to the control of the pace of the game and the distribution of resources, Rush can always win the fans' hearts.
His most amazing accomplishment recently is defeating the genius Terran – NaDa (P&C) in the MSL Final. Also, he placed third in the IOPS OSL and Second in the KT-KTF League. He has managed to be top four in all of the major events.
"How come I've never heard of this player before?" This question is frequently asked by those who have recently become GoRush's fans, and they are desperate to know how he manages to increase his fan-count seemingly endlessly. None of us really know what GoRush is really like - when interviewed, he is sometimes arrogant, sometimes polite; during the last Star League, he blatantly pointed out the mistakes made by the host (someone might want to elaborate on this). Before Team GO left for Thailand, I met GoRush, he smiled at me and said “Try to make me appear nice to the public".
Gaming as a Profession
It was 2001, when he was in Grade 10 (first year in high school), GoRush got his Plaque/Recognition Form from the Korean E-Sport Organization.
Actually, his gaming career started in year 2000. At that time, he practised with TheMarine, and his progression in Starcraft was astonishing.
"I wasn't that good in the beginning, but after six months, I suddenly felt that I was getting much better, I don't even know how that happened." After this sudden improvement, in his Grade 9 year, GoRush won many Starcraft competitions that were held by local Cafés. The most significant accomplishment was the one that was held by "Southern River" (some Korean name), where he defeated FreeMura, IntotheRain, VGundam, and Slayer_Boxer. Finally, he lost to [z-zone]Byun (currently the coach for Plus) and placed second. "It was that time, my coach asked me to join the team, and that's when I started my progaming career."
Retirement after the first victory of WCGC
After joining a proteam, GoRush's improvement was frightening. After allocating his practice Café, he wanted to give up his education because it was nearly impossible to be a student and a progamer at the same time. GoRush was indulged in the game, he finally gave up school. However, he won the WCGC that year and gained a lot of publicity.
"I almost got kicked out of the team because I gave up school. The financial manager told me: A gamer who gives up his education is not what we need, if you are really that confident (as in, to succeed in life without education), then prove it to me. I didn't want to bow down to him, so I practised over 50 games everyday, and finally won the WCGC."
Arduous decision: Going back to school
GoRush's suffering began at this time. Although he got sufficient encouragement from his parents to be a progamer, he wanted to go back to school. "School is an important part of growing up; I always felt that I was missing something inside. In the street, every time I saw students wearing school uniforms, I cried a little (actual translation: feeling exited in a negative way)." To prevent myself from regretting for the rest of my life, I made my decision. As well, his former school teachers and students further caused him wanting to return the school (meaning to be united with them). With the help of a teacher who collected every news detail about GoRush, GoRush finally returned to school.
Although he was one of the brightest new starts, GoRush resolutely and determinedly gave up gaming. "It felt great returning to school and spending time with my classmates. A lot of students who desire to become progamers give up their education to play the game, and I don't think that's a good idea. You cannot go back in time, and it is not worth it to give up life for an impulsive desire/goal.
Goal - Star League
Finishing 2-year high school study, GoRush came back to gaming in 2003. During his school days, he made every minutes of his spare time playing SC. Thus he caught up with progaming in a short time relatively, and the 1st major tournament he took was NHN OSL. He grew up very quickly, just awesome to everyone.
He said: In fact it's really tough for me to resume the seat. It's said that after the military service, one should retire from progaming. But my case was that though I left progaming for school two years, all I care for was nothing but SC.
Restarting his career in progaming, GoRush devoted all his live into games, he practised more than any others.
"I wanted to practise more and catch up with others, but things didn't work out like that." he said.
However, failure is the mother of success. "When I came up to the tournaments, I told myself, well, my winning ratio was less than 10%, why not just enjoy the games, no matter loss or victory? I lost tons of battles during the practice, but I made it in tournaments! Losing a lot in practice, I wasn't afraid of loss any more, so without any tension I could do better in real battles."
Never Stop Stepping Forward
Despite getting kicked out in the frist round several times, GoRush proved himself as one of the best gamers nowadays through Golf MSL, 2nd KT-KTF and IOPS OSL. People often remarked that his games were boring. But GoRush himself never minded. He was such emotional, cheering for his victories or getting angry for his losses. Some complained his arrogance in interviews, while he was careless about that and he aimed at the higher target.
He said: I'm not arrogant, maybe it seems like so. Because comparing to other gamers, I'm not very nervous in games; and I'm not a quick-tempered person. But I can't bear any defeat, even burst out anger, complaining people around me.
To Parents
All of his achievement is attributed to his parents. A kid without any life goal, what makes him so devoted into progaming is his family.
He said: well, I had never told anybody before, my parents are all the reasons of my hard working.
GoRush's family isn't rich. The cruelty of life wakes him up from his immature ideal, leading himto the direction he heads for.
He said: at that time the champ of WCGC was all I had, but one year ago I perceived my family wouldn't live a standard life if I didn't work hard.
Realizing that his parents put all their hope on him, GoRush roused up. He changed.
"I can't idle away the hours. Provided I just ended my career with a WCGC champ, what should I do? No, I can't!"
He was bent on dedicating himself into games, and he refused to be what others were. What he wanted were more practice.
"My parents taught me that victory is everything, even if it means to faint during a match."
Dad & Mum, the biggest fans of mine
"My father is a typical Korean, conservative, taciturn and testy. He used to be wrathful when hearing his son was going to be a progamer. That's true, I've experienced all these things which a progamer came across."(laughs)
He was caught by his father in the pc bang and beaten badly several times. However, his father changes his mind when GoRush did some achievement in some important tournaments. Now, his parents become his biggest fans.
"Dad knows far more than I know, let alone these matchups, he could illustrate everyting in games in detail. Now when I go home, there's no break for me to say something, he is talking talking and talking. Once he told me that I ought to train scrouges, OMG, I had nothing to respond."(laughs)
He was caught by his father in the pc bang and beaten badly several times. However, his father changes his mind when GoRush did some achievement in some important tournaments. Now, his parents become his biggest fans.
In asia, a parents can mistreat a child all they want. The child will grow up and never have anything but good words to say for his parents.
Over here, the child would have grown up and say how he grew up with such a shitty family, with a father who always tried to hinder him from reaching his dreams, and how he is so glad that he's now proven him wrong.
On March 15 2005 01:16 tfeign wrote: In asia, a parents can mistreat a child all they want. The child will grow up and never have anything but good words to say for his parents.
Over here, the child would have grown up and say how he grew up with such a shitty family, with a father who always tried to hinder him from reaching his dreams, and how he is so glad that he's now proven him wrong.
The word "mistreat" seems out of place. It's called discipline. Most cultures value family as the most important thing in life. And parents do what they do to give thier children the best path in life...
Then you have the parents that take it too far and end up using thier children as punching bags. This is what you call mistreating children..
great stuff, i'll watch every GoRush's VODs from now on.
I'm not very nervous in games; and I'm not a quick-tempered person. But I can't bear any defeat
remember when gorush lost to nada in game 5, he spitted out his frustration and his tongue was tasting the bitterness. you don't see much of gorush's emotion in game or in life, but you'll see it when he loses a match. interesting person.
lets see... his father beats him on a regular basis and tell his top3 zerg in the world son to work on his scourge control. sounds like a well rounded individual
On March 15 2005 01:16 tfeign wrote: In asia, a parents can mistreat a child all they want. The child will grow up and never have anything but good words to say for his parents.
Over here, the child would have grown up and say how he grew up with such a shitty family, with a father who always tried to hinder him from reaching his dreams, and how he is so glad that he's now proven him wrong.
If you were born and raised in the USA you call it "mistreatment." If you were born and raised in southeastern Asia you call it "discipline."
Abusing a child in the USA is a very bad parenting decision, but only because you're living within a culture that has collectively decided that hitting children is wrong, and the child will ultimately grow up with a feeling of separation from society, and resent you for it. Abusing a child in southeastern Asia does not have these same effects, because you'd be living in a culture that has accepted that form of discipline, and you can still feel acceptance within that society.
On March 14 2005 23:06 Chris307 wrote: And everybody please refrain from commenting on the bit about physical abuse. It's just a cultural difference.
The obscene stupidity embraced by your statement overwhelms me. Here are some more situations in which citing cultural differences can excuse morally repugnant behavior: -Slavery -The Holocaust -Infanticide -Cannibalism -Witch Hunts -Feeding prisoners to lions -Systematic Spousal Abuse These are all practices specific to culture, and thus cannot be criticized.
Anyways, I wouldn't have commented on it but you just had to say something really dumb. PS - <3 GoRush
He was caught by his father in the pc bang and beaten badly several times. However, his father changes his mind when GoRush did some achievement in some important tournaments. Now, his parents become his biggest fans.
Psycho dad :O
Unfortunately this is not psycho, it's normal lol.
I'm not sure what others think.. but i think growing up under some beating from the parents is a good thing.. I've lived like that also.. i'd be beaten when i do something wrong and i'd hate my dad for that when i was young... but now i feel thankful that he'd beat me when i did something wrong, coz children never learn by just telling them what to do. The korean kids these days grow up without much or any beating, so they never behave which makes them the so-called 'public enemy' in korea -_-
On March 14 2005 23:06 Chris307 wrote: And everybody please refrain from commenting on the bit about physical abuse. It's just a cultural difference.
The obscene stupidity embraced by your statement overwhelms me. Here are some more situations in which citing cultural differences can excuse morally repugnant behavior: -Slavery -The Holocaust -Infanticide -Cannibalism -Witch Hunts -Feeding prisoners to lions -Systematic Spousal Abuse These are all practices specific to culture, and thus cannot be criticized.
Anyways, I wouldn't have commented on it but you just had to say something really dumb. PS - <3 GoRush
You've taken my statements completely out of context, and used your own misconception to compare the simple act of physically disciplining one child, to systematically murdering an entire race of people?
On March 15 2005 03:52 cacat wrote: I'm not sure what others think.. but i think growing up under some beating from the parents is a good thing.. I've lived like that also.. i'd be beaten when i do something wrong and i'd hate my dad for that when i was young... but now i feel thankful that he'd beat me when i did something wrong, coz children never learn by just telling them what to do. The korean kids these days grow up without much or any beating, so they never behave which makes them the so-called 'public enemy' in korea -_-
I've never been beaten by my parents nor has anyone I know but I can agree to what ur saying to some extent...some children just dont give a shit about what there parents think cause they know they arent really going to get punished for it ..
I support parents being allowed to hit their children. I was hit very rarely when i was a kid (like 10 times all my life) but i actually feel that that my parent used this to mark the borders of how far i could go, rather than being angry at me or something.
It should be the parents' responsibility to use force in the correct way. I do notice nowadays that twelve year olds think nothing can hurt them, since they don't know the FORCE
right after i watched a few replays of Reach I stood this guy out, and that makes it the first time I do that for a z player. I really love his play. great interview!
I'm not very nervous in games; and I'm not a quick-tempered person. But I can't bear any defeat
remember when gorush lost to nada in game 5, he spitted out his frustration and his tongue was tasting the bitterness. you don't see much of gorush's emotion in game or in life, but you'll see it when he loses a match. interesting person.
EDIT: game 5 of IOPS, go watch the vod, it's fun.
haha thats funny i remember nada crushing gorush 3-0 before they could play games 4+5
Please do not turn this into a child beating debate, and keep it on topic. This will prevent people like HeadBangaa from posting their thoughts and making me tremendously angry by their stupidity.
It is a feel good story I think, because now GoRush can help support his family, as well as open up other opportunities for himself in the future. Also, I like watching a player that shows a little emotion when they play Adds a little drama to the event that you don't get with ol' stoney face.
On March 15 2005 07:46 pinbaLL wrote: Omg his parents should be shot :/
Please read Chris307's comments and pay attention to Manifesto7's post. Is it so hard to respect a different race's values?
And thanks for the interview, Emlary!
I wrote that just after reading the interview, whithout having read any comments. Anyway, it seems like more people than reacted the same way, but I guess that its a topic for the general forum if people want to discuss that.
On March 14 2005 23:06 Chris307 wrote: And everybody please refrain from commenting on the bit about physical abuse. It's just a cultural difference.
The obscene stupidity embraced by your statement overwhelms me. Here are some more situations in which citing cultural differences can excuse morally repugnant behavior: -Slavery -The Holocaust -Infanticide -Cannibalism -Witch Hunts -Feeding prisoners to lions -Systematic Spousal Abuse These are all practices specific to culture, and thus cannot be criticized.
Anyways, I wouldn't have commented on it but you just had to say something really dumb. PS - <3 GoRush
You've taken my statements completely out of context, and used your own misconception to compare the simple act of physically disciplining one child, to systematically murdering an entire race of people?
I did not compare beating a child to anything. I pointed out that cultural context can be used to shrug off all sorts of cruel acts.
On March 15 2005 12:02 Manifesto7 wrote: Please do not turn this into a child beating debate, and keep it on topic. This will prevent people like HeadBangaa from posting their thoughts and making me tremendously angry by their stupidity.
I didn't mean to turn it into a debate, I just get upset when people defend outrageous behavior on such a weak premise... are you saying you actually don't see anything wrong with it? :O Oh and don't single me out, plenty feel the same way I do, mani
This reminds me of that article posted a while back where the parents hit their kids with hammers and pulled out their nails with pliers. (this discussion, not gorush's dad, lol)
On March 15 2005 12:02 Manifesto7 wrote: Please do not turn this into a child beating debate, and keep it on topic. This will prevent people like HeadBangaa from posting their thoughts and making me tremendously angry by their stupidity.
I didn't mean to turn it into a debate, I just get upset when people defend outrageous behavior on such a weak premise... are you saying you actually don't see anything wrong with it? :O Oh and don't single me out, plenty feel the same way I do, mani
EDIT: sorry double post
I condone it, if used in moderation.
Some kids are so whiny and bitchy they deserve a good ass whooping.
On March 15 2005 08:09 aseq wrote: I support parents being allowed to hit their children. I was hit very rarely when i was a kid (like 10 times all my life) but i actually feel that that my parent used this to mark the borders of how far i could go, rather than being angry at me or something.
It should be the parents' responsibility to use force in the correct way. I do notice nowadays that twelve year olds think nothing can hurt them, since they don't know the FORCE
On March 15 2005 01:47 HiFi wrote: great stuff, i'll watch every GoRush's VODs from now on.
I'm not very nervous in games; and I'm not a quick-tempered person. But I can't bear any defeat
remember when gorush lost to nada in game 5, he spitted out his frustration and his tongue was tasting the bitterness. you don't see much of gorush's emotion in game or in life, but you'll see it when he loses a match. interesting person.
EDIT: game 5 of IOPS, go watch the vod, it's fun.
haha thats funny i remember nada crushing gorush 3-0 before they could play games 4+5
heh just a correction, but gorush is cool
thx for translating
Maybe Nada crushed GoRush 3-0 in some other series but in IOPS semifinal they played all five games. GoRush led 2-0 and then Nada came roaring back with a 3-0 sweep.
On March 15 2005 01:47 HiFi wrote: great stuff, i'll watch every GoRush's VODs from now on.
I'm not very nervous in games; and I'm not a quick-tempered person. But I can't bear any defeat
remember when gorush lost to nada in game 5, he spitted out his frustration and his tongue was tasting the bitterness. you don't see much of gorush's emotion in game or in life, but you'll see it when he loses a match. interesting person.
EDIT: game 5 of IOPS, go watch the vod, it's fun.
haha thats funny i remember nada crushing gorush 3-0 before they could play games 4+5
heh just a correction, but gorush is cool
thx for translating
No, Gorush nearly 3-0'd nada, but nada made a nice comeback in game 3 and was in control the rest of the series.
I dont understand the part about "fainting" in order to win. I understood it as, "I will do anything to win, even to faint and get a draw inorder to replay the game." Did i read it incorrectly? Or does he mean, work really hard until he faints? Seems kind of unethical in my opinion and quite unsportsmanship like. Good interview though :D.
On March 15 2005 19:59 itzme_petey wrote: I dont understand the part about "fainting" in order to win. I understood it as, "I will do anything to win, even to faint and get a draw inorder to replay the game." Did i read it incorrectly? Or does he mean, work really hard until he faints?
You faint when you work too hard (common figure of speech in Asian languages).
On March 15 2005 19:59 itzme_petey wrote: I dont understand the part about "fainting" in order to win. I understood it as, "I will do anything to win, even to faint and get a draw inorder to replay the game." Did i read it incorrectly? Or does he mean, work really hard until he faints?
You faint when you work too hard (common figure of speech in Asian languages).
Parents beating their children is a very common and natural occurance in Asian societies, infact in Asian countries, corporal punishment is used by teachers on their students. So, a father beating his son is nothing strange in Asia. People in Western countries may find it strange because their laws are much more protective of children.
On March 15 2005 19:59 itzme_petey wrote: I dont understand the part about "fainting" in order to win. I understood it as, "I will do anything to win, even to faint and get a draw inorder to replay the game." Did i read it incorrectly? Or does he mean, work really hard until he faints?
You faint when you work too hard (common figure of speech in Asian languages).
ahhhh i knew i was wrong, thnx for correction. XD
i tought the same thing, i was like "omg gorush is so bm" >.<
On March 15 2005 07:46 pinbaLL wrote: Omg his parents should be shot :/
Please read Chris307's comments and pay attention to Manifesto7's post. Is it so hard to respect a different race's values?
And thanks for the interview, Emlary!
You mean culture, not race. >.<
In some cultures women have no rights. Do you respect that?
That's another cultural thing, personally, I like equality, but to people of other culture, what we do here in the US, such as giving men and women equal rights, may be absolutely shocking. You can't really impose your standards on other cultures. To us it might seem really awful, but to them, it's perfectly natural.