As with all rankings, it doesn't completely capture the the true strength of the players relative to one another. (Xellos is ranked #2!!!)
All rankings except mine.
(And oov couldn't beat Xellos if his mouse finger's life depended on it. Just like Xellos couldn't beat Nada. Just like Nada couldn't vs oov. God I love this game.)
On August 01 2005 20:26 mensrea wrote: As with all rankings, it doesn't completely capture the the true strength of the players relative to one another.
All rankings except mine.
(And oov couldn't beat Xellos if his mouse finger's life depended on it. Just like Xellos couldn't beat Nada. Just like Nada couldn't vs oov. God I love this game.)
On August 01 2005 20:26 mensrea wrote: As with all rankings, it doesn't completely capture the the true strength of the players relative to one another. (Xellos is ranked #2!!!)
All rankings except mine.
(And oov couldn't beat Xellos if his mouse finger's life depended on it. Just like Xellos couldn't beat Nada. Just like Nada couldn't vs oov. God I love this game.)
Anyone have the overall records between these three Terrans? (i.e. like what mensrea said oov vS XellOs, etc)
Haha, you're all making fun of Xellos, but what the fuck is midas doing at #6??? #2 a WCG gets you that many points? He certainly hasn't done shit all in the past year except for that.
And it never ceases to amaze me how high Kingdom and Chojja constantly are for no good reason. Chojja did ok in this past MSL or whatever, so fine, but I would think that by now they'de both be down as far as Ra considering all three have sucked knob for over a year.
Seeing Reach, the only toss in top 10, the only player that has made it into every major league since he was born and regularly do well, usually quaters or better until he hits a zerg...and he's one spot above Kingdom!!!??!!?? That's a fucking slap in the face! I mean, I know Reach never gets first, but Kingdom hasn't even played anything but team league and a couple 2nd place MSL finishes for the longest time.
I just don't get it, but based on Xellos and Midas' spot, we can all clearly see that WCGs performance is worth too much.
On August 01 2005 21:31 ManaBlue wrote: Haha, you're all making fun of Xellos, but what the fuck is midas doing at #6??? #2 a WCG gets you that many points? He certainly hasn't done shit all in the past year except for that.
And it never ceases to amaze me how high Kingdom and Chojja constantly are for no good reason. Chojja did ok in this past MSL or whatever, so fine, but I would think that by now they'de both be down as far as Ra considering all three have sucked knob for over a year.
Seeing Reach, the only toss in top 10, the only player that has made it into every major league since he was born and regularly do well, usually quaters or better until he hits a zerg...and he's one spot above Kingdom!!!??!!?? That's a fucking slap in the face! I mean, I know Reach never gets first, but Kingdom hasn't even played anything but team league and a couple 2nd place MSL finishes for the longest time.
I just don't get it, but based on Xellos and Midas' spot, we can all clearly see that WCGs performance is worth too much.
Guys Xellos took 3rd place in last OSL...with all those scary zergs hanging around. His TvT win percentage is the best if I'm not wrong and his TvZ is really-really art. HE DESERVES 2nd spot more than the other terrans(debatable about oov, but nada sucks truely-deeply-madly, cheers griff;)).
On August 01 2005 21:31 ManaBlue wrote: Haha, you're all making fun of Xellos, but what the fuck is midas doing at #6??? #2 a WCG gets you that many points? He certainly hasn't done shit all in the past year except for that.
And it never ceases to amaze me how high Kingdom and Chojja constantly are for no good reason. Chojja did ok in this past MSL or whatever, so fine, but I would think that by now they'de both be down as far as Ra considering all three have sucked knob for over a year.
Seeing Reach, the only toss in top 10, the only player that has made it into every major league since he was born and regularly do well, usually quaters or better until he hits a zerg...and he's one spot above Kingdom!!!??!!?? That's a fucking slap in the face! I mean, I know Reach never gets first, but Kingdom hasn't even played anything but team league and a couple 2nd place MSL finishes for the longest time.
I just don't get it, but based on Xellos and Midas' spot, we can all clearly see that WCGs performance is worth too much.
WCG prelim is just as hard as an OSL imo. You have to beat a stream of top-notch pros to get the ticket to which ever country you are going, then beat the best gamers around the world. Worst of all, it happens ONCE a year, rather than 3 OSL and 3 MSL per year.
On August 01 2005 21:31 ManaBlue wrote: Haha, you're all making fun of Xellos, but what the fuck is midas doing at #6??? #2 a WCG gets you that many points? He certainly hasn't done shit all in the past year except for that.
And it never ceases to amaze me how high Kingdom and Chojja constantly are for no good reason. Chojja did ok in this past MSL or whatever, so fine, but I would think that by now they'de both be down as far as Ra considering all three have sucked knob for over a year.
Seeing Reach, the only toss in top 10, the only player that has made it into every major league since he was born and regularly do well, usually quaters or better until he hits a zerg...and he's one spot above Kingdom!!!??!!?? That's a fucking slap in the face! I mean, I know Reach never gets first, but Kingdom hasn't even played anything but team league and a couple 2nd place MSL finishes for the longest time.
I just don't get it, but based on Xellos and Midas' spot, we can all clearly see that WCGs performance is worth too much.
WCG prelim is just as hard as an OSL imo. You have to beat a stream of top-notch pros to get the ticket to which ever country you are going, then beat the best gamers around the world. Worst of all, it happens ONCE a year, rather than 3 OSL and 3 MSL per year.
The system works.
Fine fine, give him a gillion points for WCG, I don't even care. Try to justify Kingdom getting 11th place...I'll leave that open for anyone.
On August 01 2005 21:31 ManaBlue wrote: Haha, you're all making fun of Xellos, but what the fuck is midas doing at #6??? #2 a WCG gets you that many points? He certainly hasn't done shit all in the past year except for that.
And it never ceases to amaze me how high Kingdom and Chojja constantly are for no good reason. Chojja did ok in this past MSL or whatever, so fine, but I would think that by now they'de both be down as far as Ra considering all three have sucked knob for over a year.
Seeing Reach, the only toss in top 10, the only player that has made it into every major league since he was born and regularly do well, usually quaters or better until he hits a zerg...and he's one spot above Kingdom!!!??!!?? That's a fucking slap in the face! I mean, I know Reach never gets first, but Kingdom hasn't even played anything but team league and a couple 2nd place MSL finishes for the longest time.
I just don't get it, but based on Xellos and Midas' spot, we can all clearly see that WCGs performance is worth too much.
Reach should go up once the MSL counts since he'll be #1 or #2 I don't understand Nal_Ra's down 8 unless All star league has counted yet (he placed 4th). And all his game5 wins for KTF have to count somewhere no ? Kingdom will probably soon go down since he isn't qualified for either next starleague.
Can anyone knowledgable explain why Kingdom is placed at #11 while nal_ra is placed at #23 while Kingdom since SPRIS 2004 MSL hasn't accomplished ANYTHING better than ra did?
As a matter of fact, ra has accomplished more than Kingdom by placing 4th in the recent all stars league, and is doing a much better performance than Kingdom in proleague as well. Yet he's #23 and Kingdom is #11? I wouldn't be surprised if Kingdom bribed Kespa to keep him so high on the list over the last year.
It's also a bit sad that only 1 toss is in the top 10 (and right at 10th place as well). I too don't see anything ChoJJa has done over the last year that was more of an accomplishment than everything Reach has done to justify him being placed higher than Reach.
On August 02 2005 02:51 tfeign wrote: Can anyone knowledgable explain why Kingdom is placed at #11 while nal_ra is placed at #23 while Kingdom since SPRIS 2004 MSL hasn't accomplished ANYTHING better than ra did?
As a matter of fact, ra has accomplished more than Kingdom by placing 4th in the recent all stars league, and is doing a much better performance than Kingdom in proleague as well. Yet he's #23 and Kingdom is #11? I wouldn't be surprised if Kingdom bribed Kespa to keep him so high on the list over the last year.
It's also a bit sad that only 1 toss is in the top 10 (and right at 10th place as well). I too don't see anything ChoJJa has done over the last year that was more of an accomplishment than everything Reach has done to justify him being placed higher than Reach.
Yeah well, maybe the tosses will jump up in the september rankings, now that they have all made it into the two starleagues :D
On August 01 2005 21:31 ManaBlue wrote: Haha, you're all making fun of Xellos, but what the fuck is midas doing at #6??? #2 a WCG gets you that many points? He certainly hasn't done shit all in the past year except for that.
And it never ceases to amaze me how high Kingdom and Chojja constantly are for no good reason. Chojja did ok in this past MSL or whatever, so fine, but I would think that by now they'de both be down as far as Ra considering all three have sucked knob for over a year.
Seeing Reach, the only toss in top 10, the only player that has made it into every major league since he was born and regularly do well, usually quaters or better until he hits a zerg...and he's one spot above Kingdom!!!??!!?? That's a fucking slap in the face! I mean, I know Reach never gets first, but Kingdom hasn't even played anything but team league and a couple 2nd place MSL finishes for the longest time.
I just don't get it, but based on Xellos and Midas' spot, we can all clearly see that WCGs performance is worth too much.
he has done more than that.. he did well in both last osl & msl ..
edit: not sure about msl but both the last 2 osl's he made top8..
On August 02 2005 02:51 tfeign wrote: Can anyone knowledgable explain why Kingdom is placed at #11 while nal_ra is placed at #23 while Kingdom since SPRIS 2004 MSL hasn't accomplished ANYTHING better than ra did?
As a matter of fact, ra has accomplished more than Kingdom by placing 4th in the recent all stars league, and is doing a much better performance than Kingdom in proleague as well. Yet he's #23 and Kingdom is #11? I wouldn't be surprised if Kingdom bribed Kespa to keep him so high on the list over the last year.
It's also a bit sad that only 1 toss is in the top 10 (and right at 10th place as well). I too don't see anything ChoJJa has done over the last year that was more of an accomplishment than everything Reach has done to justify him being placed higher than Reach.
Well there's a few things. I can't really say "this is why" but I can find a few that relates to it. rA hasn't been doing good in any starleagues in recent years. Infact from the time I started watchin Pro-Gaming, (about half a year now?) I haven't seen him play in any StarLeague. Kingdom on the other hand wins a few but loses constantly at StarLeagues. But atleast he's been making it to StarLeagues.
Yea rA is doing really good in certain areas, but useless places. Any "event matches" give no points to the players. That's why you see them mess around so much. Like the BoxeR chat with NaDa. That was all funny and everyone laughed. But in the recent Reach vs ChoJJa MSL LB Finals Reach typed "....." as a habbit and he got penalized later with a fine.
Anyways my point is it doesn't help your KeSPA ranking even if you win the whole tournement for "event matches" like the Snickers All-Star games. I'm not sure about Proleagues, whether they effect your points but I guess it doesn't.
Why would any sane player not take the Snickers all-stars league seriously? It's just as prestigious as any starleague considering the prizes offered for their top finishers were about the equivalent of OSL/MSL starleague top finishers?
Posting to complain about WCG being over-valued again. Sure, the prelim may be hard, but it still isn't worth nearly as many points as they give for it, considering that players generally don't seem to consider it worth giving up much practice for other leagues to practice for.
On August 02 2005 06:42 OverTheUnder wrote: "But in the recent Reach vs ChoJJa MSL LB Finals Reach typed "....." as a habbit and he got penalized later with a fine."
It's against the rules to type? Somone elaborate plz^^
Yes it is.
Reach typed "-.-" against chojja in a really long game and got fined 500,000 won which is approximately 500 USD.
It's not very stange if they don't give out points for snickers since the players were invited, which would give them an unfair advantage over all the others.
Wow, 500 dollars~_~ Is there any particular reason that the players aren't allowed to talk? And are there any phrases they are allowed to say besides GG?
On August 02 2005 11:57 OverTheUnder wrote: Wow, 500 dollars~_~ Is there any particular reason that the players aren't allowed to talk? And are there any phrases they are allowed to say besides GG?
they can ask for pauses to go to the bathroom or technical problems n stuff