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So it seems Fish's definition of "noob" is anything but a keyboard-destroying fire-spitting monitor-exploding jaw-dropping literal god.
Anyway I joined a noob lobby, got absolutely stomped, and checking the replay the guy was really fucking good. He was so good I looked up his username, SaSin)KaL. Some really old stuff comes up on Naver, so I did a Google search and INnoVation came up. Is this his current name on Fish?
Normally I wouldn't be so surprised, but The Machine?
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GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
bogus is still playing sc2, why would he play bw? and who is innovation?
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On February 07 2016 14:07 amazingxkcd wrote: bogus is still playing sc2, why would he play bw? and who is innovation? I'm a StarCraft II player, I even have a blog about my journey to not sucking on Fish lol.
Sorry I didn't know, but is Ever)p(Bogus the same guy we're talking about? Cause I joined a "noob" lobby hosted by that user and promptly noped the fuck out cause it sounded familiar.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES48984 Posts
Bogus changed his ID to innovation sometime after the switch.
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On February 07 2016 14:00 WinterViewbot420 wrote:So it seems Fish's definition of "noob" is anything but a keyboard-destroying fire-spitting monitor-exploding jaw-dropping literal god. Anyway I joined a noob lobby, got absolutely stomped, and checking the replay the guy was really fucking good. He was so good I looked up his username, SaSin)KaL. Some really old stuff comes up on Naver, so I did a Google search and INnoVation came up. Is this his current name on Fish? Normally I wouldn't be so surprised, but The Machine? Your best bet would be to upload the replay so that others can analyze the hotkeys. Or, you can do that yourself if you find a Bogus replay of the same match-up and general build order. I'd suggest you try to do it yourself and upload the replay in the meantime.
That said, there are hundreds of people who steal progamers' nicks for personal use. I've seen so many variants of Bisu, but I doubt any of them were actually Bisu.
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On February 07 2016 14:27 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2016 14:00 WinterViewbot420 wrote:So it seems Fish's definition of "noob" is anything but a keyboard-destroying fire-spitting monitor-exploding jaw-dropping literal god. Anyway I joined a noob lobby, got absolutely stomped, and checking the replay the guy was really fucking good. He was so good I looked up his username, SaSin)KaL. Some really old stuff comes up on Naver, so I did a Google search and INnoVation came up. Is this his current name on Fish? Normally I wouldn't be so surprised, but The Machine? Your best bet would be to upload the replay so that other can analyze the hotkeys. Or, you can do that yourself if you find a Bogus replay of the same match-up and general build order. I'd suggest you try to do it yourself and upload the replay in the meantime. That said, there are hundreds of people who steal progamers' nicks for personal use. I've seen so many variants of Bisu, but I doubt any of them were actually Bisu. I'll have some Korean buddies look into it cause it does seem quite strange that he would be on BW. I know some pros play BW for fun but not A-team KeSPA players
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Russian Federation145 Posts
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On February 07 2016 14:37 TerranZerg wrote: what a stupid thread Sorry I haven't been watching Brood War for 15 years, want a fucking cookie?
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i call fake,post the replay.
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Good catch. This means Bogus also thinking about retiring and returning to roots. Scout more there and hopefully next time you will meet HoDo to realize what's really "keyboard-destroying fire-spitting monitor-exploding jaw-dropping literal God". + Show Spoiler +Flash's smurf from rumors
P.S.: I like how this thread shows 9 replies but 0 views list in BW General section :D
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ALLEYCAT BLUES48984 Posts
OP please upload the replay.
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On February 07 2016 14:50 outscar wrote:Good catch. This means Bogus also thinking about retiring and returning to roots. Scout more there and hopefully next time you will meet HoDo to realize what's really "keyboard-destroying fire-spitting monitor-exploding jaw-dropping literal God". + Show Spoiler +Flash's smurf from rumors P.S.: I like how this thread shows 9 replies but 0 views list in BW General section :D Just like that replay. 0 views.
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On February 07 2016 14:50 outscar wrote:Good catch. This means Bogus also thinking about retiring and returning to roots. Scout more there and hopefully next time you will meet HoDo to realize what's really "keyboard-destroying fire-spitting monitor-exploding jaw-dropping literal God". + Show Spoiler +Flash's smurf from rumors P.S.: I like how this thread shows 9 replies but 0 views list in BW General section :D
You are so outdated... The new rumored account is eros_quality.
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Japan11285 Posts
Doubt it would be him. But who knows.
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I think this is a stage everyone goes through when they start playing bw. Reminds me when I didn't know about the pro-scene and saw a guy on useast with some variation of boxer's id then when I moved later to Korea I saw Boxer on tv and I thought they were the same guy lol. Lots of people tend to copy each other's id for various reasons. Also Kal is a common id to use in Korea. It means sword. You can't use that as proof or even suspicion that you played against the real Innovation. Actually I would argue that its more reason that its not the real player because if Innovation wanted to play a few games of bw he definitely would try to hide it instead of using an id he used to use. The only real way to tell if you played the real person is if you compare the hotkey patterns of the player you played against with the actual player and even then its not always easy because people also copy other people's hotkey setups.
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On February 07 2016 19:29 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I think this is a stage everyone goes through when they start playing bw. Reminds me when I didn't know about the pro-scene and saw a guy on useast with some variation of boxer's id then when I moved later to Korea I saw Boxer on tv and I thought they were the same guy lol. Lots of people tend to copy each other's id for various reasons. Also Kal is a common id to use in Korea. It means sword. You can't use that as proof or even suspicion that you played against the real Innovation. Actually I would argue that its more reason that its not the real player because if Innovation wanted to play a few games of bw he definitely would try to hide it instead of using an id he used to use. The only real way to tell if you played the real person is if you compare the hotkey patterns of the player you played against with the actual player and even then its not always easy because people also copy other people's hotkey setups.
I was about to say the same thing it really reminded me of the early bw days... When the pros would still play on iccup/maybe PGT
To OP if you want to be sure just download the replay and compare hotkeys.. I remember romad used to be a hotkey police and would check the replay hotkey patterns...
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High level players on Fish are telling me this wasn't his first time on, but to keep in mind the account could possibly be shared. Nothing that says it is, but nothing that says it isn't.
Whether it's him or not, is it too far fetched to say he probably decided to play a few games on Fish after some lunch on a Sunday? I'd want a nostalgia trip after doing the same thing for six years too if I was in his position. Doesn't really mean he's retiring.
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op didnt play the 'real' Innovation, just no.
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On February 07 2016 20:44 billynasty wrote: op didnt play the 'real' Innovation, just no. Apparently I did and apparently I'm not the only one. I think people are overreacting to it though, maybe it wasn't a good idea to post on a forum as toxic as TeamLiquid
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ALLEYCAT BLUES48984 Posts
On February 07 2016 20:48 WinterViewbot420 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2016 20:44 billynasty wrote: op didnt play the 'real' Innovation, just no. Apparently I did and apparently I'm not the only one. I think people are overreacting to it though, maybe it wasn't a good idea to post on a forum as toxic as TeamLiquid
we're toxic for asking you to post a replay?
sure.
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