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On September 23 2016 00:06 LRM)TechnicS wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2016 23:09 BLinD-RawR wrote:On September 22 2016 22:38 duke91 wrote:On September 22 2016 05:03 HaN- wrote:+ Show Spoiler +User was warned for this post Oh please the occasional meme should be allowed after 50 pages. Its better than the regular flame and at least lightens thinks up if you have a problem with moderation take it to Website Feedback yeah but... that one was contextually really good t.t Nah, they are always terrible. He wasn't banned for that, so there isn't even anything to complain about.
On September 23 2016 01:26 B-royal wrote: I'm getting so hyped oh my god. Imagine seeing jaedong's FPV :O It will cleanse your eyes.
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On September 22 2016 20:13 Jae Zedong wrote: Hm, how does Fish's ranking algorithm work? For example I see that Melverc (Last) has a way better win/loss ratio but is only 17:th.
I guess the bottomline of my question is: Is it reasonable to assume that 424 is the best BW player right now? Better than Flash and Last?
Not at all. Obvioulsy if you're in the top rankings, you're amazing. But you have to understand, most of these Pros- they're not even trying in most of their ladder matches. Half the time, they're chatting with their fans and collecting balloons, etc. They even play w-Mode... Plus, in what world has a ladder ranking ever proved you're the undisputed #1 player? That's just awful logic and assumption. Also, they are playing off-race matches at B level lol, I've seen in tons of various streams and it's quite often too.
It's not to take away from anyone who is B or higher; essentially B/A/S are all progamer/amateur echelon levels, but you can't go by the ranks and records so much as what you'd perceive at face level.
Not to mention, Shineee is #1 as of right now at the time of this post, and... well... we all know Shine is obviously not a top-echelon pro lol. So that proves the point right there.
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thank you very much, kind sir~
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just watched the games
+ Show Spoiler +Larva was very nervous during the games. I didn't like his performance in games 1 and 2 at all in both early and mid game. If he was more aggressive in defending that 1st overlord he lost in game 3, it would have been different. He also clearly could have done better in game 4 IMO. Overall exciting to see JvZ in action but I want more and better games. Hope they do one more, this time longer, session
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What if its a stunt to attract more viewers so they get more money? jaedong confirmed himself hes not going back to BW.
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Well I mean he is back. If he doesn't play in tournaments that sucks but the fact that he is currently playing is enough to say he's back to BW.
It doesn't make much sense that it would be a "stunt", that doesn't seem like something JD would do and I see no benefit for him. If he streamed on afreeca he would be making 6 figures a year easily from the amounts I've seen the other top players making, so it's not like he'd be getting a sick amount of money from helping other streamers.
Plus if you've watched his earlier games its pretty obvious he is practicing really hard to get back in shape.
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On September 23 2016 08:22 ICanFlyLow wrote: What if its a stunt to attract more viewers so they get more money? jaedong confirmed himself hes not going back to BW. I mean he practically is back now so i dont know why he wouldn't go all the way? I think alot of people will be mad if he dont return know. Expect riots.
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On September 23 2016 08:22 ICanFlyLow wrote: What if its a stunt to attract more viewers so they get more money? jaedong confirmed himself hes not going back to BW.
Where did he say he's not going back to BW..? I hope you don't mean the fan-driven facebook page.
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On September 06 2016 18:51 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 08:30 prech wrote: Although ZerO's not a great ZvZer, he's basically the strongest out of the four prominent Zerg progamers at the mirror Zero is a great ZvZer. I know it has been a few years and people memories have gone rusty but he was one of two zergs that ended the era of JvZ by beating him in an epic bo5. He had the second best muta control and fantastic tactical sense. The only other active zerg that even compares is effort, who I believe although I could be mistaken, also beat J in a match not long before sc2 murdered our sport. He is top 4 zergs zvz all-time and maybe higher. (I am not a zero fan)
Hydra was the other zerg who beat JD in a bo5, if my memory is right. Both Hydra and Zero won JD in MSL semifinals in continous seasons. During that period, J v z was no more as convincing as before.
Hydra claimed that he could control the action of each muta at that time.
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On September 24 2016 01:00 neilmellor wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2016 18:51 AttackZerg wrote:On September 06 2016 08:30 prech wrote:
. Hydra was the other zerg who beat JD in a bo5, if my memory is right. Both Hydra and Zero won JD in MSL semifinals in continous seasons. During that period, J v z was no more as convincing as before. Hydra claimed that he could control the action of each muta at that time.
Hydra also beat him in that same period as effort and zero did. Thus marking the end of the unbeatable JvZ
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lol, hydra and zero's tournament wins over JD back then didn't mark anything. Hydra won 3:2 with seemingly pretty good skills which isn't something uncommon for a high level zvz match. Zero's bo5 win was almost exclusively 9pool vs 12hatch in zero's favour in that semifinal.
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On September 24 2016 01:00 neilmellor wrote: Hydra claimed that he could control the action of each muta at that time. What does that actually mean?
Thanks for the VODs, everyone. (I need more, obviously.)
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On September 24 2016 09:23 Djabanete wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2016 01:00 neilmellor wrote: Hydra claimed that he could control the action of each muta at that time. What does that actually mean? Thanks for the VODs, everyone. (I need more, obviously.)
It means at the time, he was amazing at controlling mutas.
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I was trying to ask if he was claiming some specific feat (which I don't understand, because it didn't look like he was controlling each muta individually) or if he was giving a vivid illustration of how hard he practiced. (Just like saying "I practiced 24/7" doesn't literally mean you practiced 24/7.) I suppose the latter.
Not trying to take away from Hydra's skills, I was just curious if it was a specific breakthrough in Zerg micro, like when Jaedong used double muta stacks against Iris's turrets.
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Great news for BW daily. Even some of my friends who quit playing 5 years ago are becoming more interested after the Afreeca finals. With AI improving and familiar faces somewhat returning, this could spark another revival that will really be significant.
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On September 24 2016 08:02 LRM)TechnicS wrote: lol, hydra and zero's tournament wins over JD back then didn't mark anything. Hydra won 3:2 with seemingly pretty good skills which isn't something uncommon for a high level zvz match. Zero's bo5 win was almost exclusively 9pool vs 12hatch in zero's favour in that semifinal.
Zero's last win in the bo5 against JD was even a 7pool. JD seemed not to be fully prepared for that semifinal as all his openings were 12hatch for the 4 games.
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On September 24 2016 10:38 Djabanete wrote: I was trying to ask if he was claiming some specific feat (which I don't understand, because it didn't look like he was controlling each muta individually) or if he was giving a vivid illustration of how hard he practiced. (Just like saying "I practiced 24/7" doesn't literally mean you practiced 24/7.) I suppose the latter.
Not trying to take away from Hydra's skills, I was just curious if it was a specific breakthrough in Zerg micro, like when Jaedong used double muta stacks against Iris's turrets.
From what I saw from Hydra during that period, Hydra's muta were unbeatable if he had the same amount of muta against a component. So I guess he found some minor improvement / tricks in muta control.
He won one "Zerg MSL", as all the remaining players in semifinals are Zerg.
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