Flash vs Jaedong.
Was it on stream ?
It looks like it's not one of his common nicknames.
+ Show Spoiler +
Pretty impressive game ! The speed, the transitions, It seems sharper than what he usually shows.
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fafalecureuil
France69 Posts
August 27 2017 21:57 GMT
#1941
Flash vs Jaedong. Was it on stream ? It looks like it's not one of his common nicknames. + Show Spoiler + Pretty impressive game ! The speed, the transitions, It seems sharper than what he usually shows. | ||
blade55555
United States17423 Posts
August 27 2017 21:58 GMT
#1942
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David_y34h
10 Posts
August 28 2017 01:48 GMT
#1943
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prosatan
Romania7062 Posts
August 29 2017 20:56 GMT
#1944
today : + Show Spoiler + vs skyhigh 2-0 and vs shuttle 2-0 : I AM SO HAPPY ! AAAAND 3-2 Mind ! God!!! mind is such a tough opponent for our tyrant !! | ||
Lorch
Germany3657 Posts
August 29 2017 21:32 GMT
#1945
On August 28 2017 10:48 David_y34h wrote: Is the playing in 4:3? Do i miss something? Lots of ex pros are. Pretty sure it's so the town hall is in the center when you spawn so you can instantly build a worker and sent your guys to farm. | ||
duke91
Germany1458 Posts
August 29 2017 22:39 GMT
#1946
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3329 Posts
August 29 2017 22:57 GMT
#1947
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duke91
Germany1458 Posts
August 29 2017 23:08 GMT
#1948
If JD gets more experience with this type of style and makes it more natural to him, he will go far in ASL 4. | ||
Ubersturmfuhrer
Finland206 Posts
August 30 2017 08:49 GMT
#1949
On August 30 2017 08:08 duke91 wrote: JD showing what he is capable of. JD outsmarted Flash pretty much every move this game. Never seen so much refinement, so much things just done 'just right' in decision making than this game. Seriously this is the most impressive game I've ever seen due to the tactics alone. If JD gets more experience with this type of style and makes it more natural to him, he will go far in ASL 4. I especially liked his use of late game mutalisks in the game above (around 19 minutes onwards). Actually I recall you and I had some debate about the efficacy of a late game muta switch last spring in this very same thread. It seemed to me the surprise muta force really caught Flash off guard this game, forcing him to make goliaths which were then destroyed by ultraling. I am looking forward for JD in ASL. I am starting to get quite optimistic about his chances now. Earlier this summer he was just banging his head against 5 rax timing hits to deny his third. | ||
Jae Zedong
407 Posts
August 30 2017 09:57 GMT
#1950
On August 30 2017 07:39 duke91 wrote: Jaedong using that return mineral mechanic in early game. Interesting... I'm more surprised more progamers don't use it, even during the Kespa era. It's the one time in a game you can focus 100% of your apm to perfect one thing and most players would rather waste it by spamming. | ||
RedW4rr10r
Germany741 Posts
August 30 2017 14:44 GMT
#1951
On August 30 2017 18:57 Jae Zedong wrote: Show nested quote + On August 30 2017 07:39 duke91 wrote: Jaedong using that return mineral mechanic in early game. Interesting... I'm more surprised more progamers don't use it, even during the Kespa era. It's the one time in a game you can focus 100% of your apm to perfect one thing and most players would rather waste it by spamming. What exactly is meant by that? Sending drones that have just returned cargo to a closer mineral patch than from where it came because the current drone mining from there is almost done mining? Or using the return cargo button to make them return faster? (not sure but I think I've heard from the latter) | ||
Soulforged
Latvia868 Posts
August 30 2017 15:11 GMT
#1952
Does it actually do anything, though? | ||
onlystar
United States971 Posts
August 30 2017 16:53 GMT
#1953
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BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
August 30 2017 17:58 GMT
#1954
On August 31 2017 01:53 onlystar wrote: I LOVE the move that jaedong pulls these days with dropping the terran main and plagueing the supply depot (massive damage huge pain to deal with for terrans) is this something ''new'' or trendy move we are seeing (i dont watch a whole lot of tvz) so i cant tell it looks like jaedong added a really good move to his arsenal Nope, it's not something new. Have seen other pros do it in the past as well. Pros should really be using plague a lot more. That spell is one of the best in the game imo. | ||
JungleTerrain
Chile799 Posts
August 30 2017 19:23 GMT
#1955
On August 31 2017 02:58 BigFan wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 01:53 onlystar wrote: I LOVE the move that jaedong pulls these days with dropping the terran main and plagueing the supply depot (massive damage huge pain to deal with for terrans) is this something ''new'' or trendy move we are seeing (i dont watch a whole lot of tvz) so i cant tell it looks like jaedong added a really good move to his arsenal Nope, it's not something new. Have seen other pros do it in the past as well. Pros should really be using plague a lot more. That spell is one of the best in the game imo. Well used plague is soo good. It's pretty broken if you use it correctly. In some scenarios it is better to plague than to swarm, but getting that +50 max energy on defiler upgrade is really crucial because you can cast plague and swarm off at the same time. Imagine, you can plague a group of like 20 marines, off a 5rax build that is 4 rounds of marine production just down the toilet and it saps medic energy. It's strong against mech too but it is more difficult to pull off because of mines not letting defilers walk around freely or sieged tanks sniping them off before they can cast a spell. In general though Terrans try to spread out their tanks and form a line too, so that mitigates plague's effectiveness. And what exactly is that mineral gathering trick you guys are talking about? I will have to check the video again. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
August 30 2017 20:04 GMT
#1956
On August 31 2017 04:23 JungleTerrain wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 02:58 BigFan wrote: On August 31 2017 01:53 onlystar wrote: I LOVE the move that jaedong pulls these days with dropping the terran main and plagueing the supply depot (massive damage huge pain to deal with for terrans) is this something ''new'' or trendy move we are seeing (i dont watch a whole lot of tvz) so i cant tell it looks like jaedong added a really good move to his arsenal Nope, it's not something new. Have seen other pros do it in the past as well. Pros should really be using plague a lot more. That spell is one of the best in the game imo. Well used plague is soo good. It's pretty broken if you use it correctly. In some scenarios it is better to plague than to swarm, but getting that +50 max energy on defiler upgrade is really crucial because you can cast plague and swarm off at the same time. Imagine, you can plague a group of like 20 marines, off a 5rax build that is 4 rounds of marine production just down the toilet and it saps medic energy. It's strong against mech too but it is more difficult to pull off because of mines not letting defilers walk around freely or sieged tanks sniping them off before they can cast a spell. In general though Terrans try to spread out their tanks and form a line too, so that mitigates plague's effectiveness. And what exactly is that mineral gathering trick you guys are talking about? I will have to check the video again. I think they mean that he just presses C or whatever the button is to get the worker to bring back the minerals or something? Not sure. As for plagues, yes! It's crazy powerful. My worst moments in TvZ are when the zerg plagues my marines then dark swarms and follows this all up with mass cracklings. Losing so many marines for so long is rough lol. | ||
Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
August 30 2017 20:47 GMT
#1957
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onlystar
United States971 Posts
August 30 2017 21:39 GMT
#1958
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PolarBearFur
Finland24 Posts
August 31 2017 08:42 GMT
#1959
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Jae Zedong
407 Posts
August 31 2017 10:06 GMT
#1960
On August 31 2017 05:04 BigFan wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2017 04:23 JungleTerrain wrote: On August 31 2017 02:58 BigFan wrote: On August 31 2017 01:53 onlystar wrote: I LOVE the move that jaedong pulls these days with dropping the terran main and plagueing the supply depot (massive damage huge pain to deal with for terrans) is this something ''new'' or trendy move we are seeing (i dont watch a whole lot of tvz) so i cant tell it looks like jaedong added a really good move to his arsenal Nope, it's not something new. Have seen other pros do it in the past as well. Pros should really be using plague a lot more. That spell is one of the best in the game imo. Well used plague is soo good. It's pretty broken if you use it correctly. In some scenarios it is better to plague than to swarm, but getting that +50 max energy on defiler upgrade is really crucial because you can cast plague and swarm off at the same time. Imagine, you can plague a group of like 20 marines, off a 5rax build that is 4 rounds of marine production just down the toilet and it saps medic energy. It's strong against mech too but it is more difficult to pull off because of mines not letting defilers walk around freely or sieged tanks sniping them off before they can cast a spell. In general though Terrans try to spread out their tanks and form a line too, so that mitigates plague's effectiveness. And what exactly is that mineral gathering trick you guys are talking about? I will have to check the video again. I think they mean that he just presses C or whatever the button is to get the worker to bring back the minerals or something? Not sure. That and it's possible to manually juggle your workers so they always take the most efficient paths to the nearest mineral patches. It does make a provable difference. It's small, but when you have a bunch of spare APM in the early game you might as well put it to actual use instead of spamming. Especially when you're trying to edge out minute advantages as the top level. There's literally no downside to doing it as your APM is not needed elsewhere that early. | ||
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