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On January 08 2017 06:30 wswordsmen wrote: Unanimous agreement Bisu would beat Sea a much better player than Guimchi but 3 saying Guimchi will beat Flash 3-0 or 3-1. That seems like a bit of over correcting previous mistakes to me.
Those predictions have to be taking into consideration recent upsets and Last sweeping him last season. Flash plays a shitload of games so its not impossible to get a good idea of his recent habits in TvP by just watching him. Guemchi has nothing to lose by cheesing/doing all-ins every single game because he's just going to die to Flash's late game.
Unlike Last, I don't think Guemchi really has any amazing traits (you can say Bisu is trash at PvT but that early game dragoon micro is wet) and he isn't really better than his Kespa self, who managed to play that horrible game against Firebathero on Destination.
There's some over-correction and hot takes in some of those predictions but Guemchi isn't like Sea, who is probably relatively comfortable playing Bisu in the late game and so was less likely to go for extremely risky strats. If I were him, I'd just pull every single bullshit out of the protoss cookbook and throw it at Flash.
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On January 08 2017 06:33 Shana wrote: Would be hilarious if Guemchi 3-0 Flash that would not be only hillarious, but awesome! I want guemchi to pull off something cool like he did on SSL forge first pvp.
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On Eye of the Storm, Bisu opted for 1 gate cc
BeSt pulled out a double stargate build and immediately began massing overlords.
You may wanna fix that in the article
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TLADT24917 Posts
On January 08 2017 07:42 Piste wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 06:33 Shana wrote: Would be hilarious if Guemchi 3-0 Flash that would not be only hillarious, but awesome! I want guemchi to pull off something cool like he did on SSL forge first pvp. I do too but the chances of this happeninng are rare.
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Estonia753 Posts
On January 08 2017 05:45 alexpnd wrote:Great write up! Who are the trolls betting against Flash >
On January 08 2017 06:30 wswordsmen wrote: Unanimous agreement Bisu would beat Sea a much better player than Guimchi but 3 saying Guimchi will beat Flash 3-0 or 3-1. That seems like a bit of over correcting previous mistakes to me.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Bisutopia18980 Posts
On January 08 2017 06:30 wswordsmen wrote: Unanimous agreement Bisu would beat Sea a much better player than Guimchi but 3 saying Guimchi will beat Flash 3-0 or 3-1. That seems like a bit of over correcting previous mistakes to me. I picked Sea to beat Bisu, i just couldnt have that on written record in a news post lol.
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Don't see Flash losing, although I think it would be hilariously awesome if he did. Hoping Jaedong advances, but I don't see him getting past the semifinals if he does beat Stork.
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All I want out of these matches are some really tight, competitive series. Maybe the Flash/Guemchi matchup will be really lopsided, but I want a 5 game classic from Stork and Jaedong.
(also I want Jaedong to advance >.<)
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United States9607 Posts
The kneejerk reaction to the upsets lol
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Look i know both trump AND sea won but Guemchi 3-0ing flash is the most ridiculous overcorrective prediction ive ever seen
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The only way we're going to see an upset is if Flash does like Bisu and goes for really risky strats. I understand why Bisu would be afraid of Sea's long game. I do think Bisu's is atleast as good, but Sea could certainly go head to head with him in a macro series. Best vs Sea, if they stick to their normal styles, will give a good indication of how Bisu would have fared, had he went for a passive style. Flash however doesn't have much to be afraid of in terms of long and passive games. His fundamentals and game sense is strong enough that there's no way Guemchi will get away with any protoss economical shenanigans (Flash's reactionary bunker rushing and early timing attacks in TvP are disgustingly strong), and seeing as Guemchi will most likely go for some strange midgame rush or tech builds, Flash would take huge unneccessary risks if he went for a blind unorthodox build.
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Japan11285 Posts
On January 08 2017 08:11 TwiggyWan wrote:Show nested quote +BeSt pulled out a double stargate build and immediately began massing overlords. You may wanna fix that in the article BeSt is so good he can make overlords from stargates.
Thanks for pointing it out. ^_^
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TLADT24917 Posts
If Guemchi actually manages to get it to game 5, it would be already amazing. Guemchi beating Flash is unlikely but, if he does somehow, biggest upset of this ASL and any upset in the last couple of years imo. Flash's game overall is extremely solid and his decisions are on another level. So long as he plays it safe and scouts thoroughly, Flash can take this series 3-0.
On January 08 2017 08:11 TwiggyWan wrote:Show nested quote +BeSt pulled out a double stargate build and immediately began massing overlords. You may wanna fix that in the article thanks, fixed. Meant core and autotyped cc, can tell I'm a terran player
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Wrath of god ROFL
I WOKE UP MY NEIGHBOR LAUGHING AT THAT:
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On January 08 2017 08:30 BisuDagger wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 06:30 wswordsmen wrote: Unanimous agreement Bisu would beat Sea a much better player than Guimchi but 3 saying Guimchi will beat Flash 3-0 or 3-1. That seems like a bit of over correcting previous mistakes to me. I picked Sea to beat Bisu, i just couldnt have that on written record in a news post lol.
Flash will prove you wrong
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Bisutopia18980 Posts
On January 08 2017 19:02 thezanursic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 08:30 BisuDagger wrote:On January 08 2017 06:30 wswordsmen wrote: Unanimous agreement Bisu would beat Sea a much better player than Guimchi but 3 saying Guimchi will beat Flash 3-0 or 3-1. That seems like a bit of over correcting previous mistakes to me. I picked Sea to beat Bisu, i just couldnt have that on written record in a news post lol. Flash will prove you wrong Yes he will haha. I didn't expect anyone else to pick Guemchi on staff lolol.
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Sweden33719 Posts
because who the hell is (T)M[fOu]?). I think i used to practice with him like 11-12 years ago...
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I know these series deserve a ton of hype, but I have to say that the artwork for the article is SICK! Thank you to whoever created it. Amazing work.
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Estonia753 Posts
On January 13 2017 18:46 stevethemacguy wrote: I know these series deserve a ton of hype, but I have to say that the artwork for the article is SICK! Thank you to whoever created it. Amazing work.
Thank you!
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