Luxury (Z) and Hwasin(T) both match fixers.
StarCraft match-fixing arrests in Korea
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avanhokie
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Luxury (Z) and Hwasin(T) both match fixers. | ||
TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
On March 17 2018 07:11 avanhokie wrote: Luxury (Z) and Hwasin(T) both match fixers. Ah right, Hwasin, it kinda looked like Leta for a second lol | ||
ilsamsamchil
155 Posts
2:45 rode a 7 am KTX from Gwangju to see savior" (Gwangju is roughly 170 miles away Seoul) (( Also this is some serious stuff and not just luls, this means there are more than one matchfixing groups operating out there. People just hoped to never see these garbage again but after the third time, I can only wonder who's next. sucks | ||
MymSlorm
Chile187 Posts
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franzji
United States580 Posts
I would be a little more forgiving when it was a teenager like life, or other new talent entering other esports... how pathetic brood war players are! User was temp banned for this post. | ||
franzji
United States580 Posts
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jinjin5000
Korea (South)1232 Posts
On March 17 2018 13:36 youngjiddle wrote: the sad thing is that these are grown men now doing this. I would be a little more forgiving when it was a teenager like life, or other new talent entering other esports... how pathetic brood war players are! Do you really need to make it sc2 vs bw? | ||
jinjin5000
Korea (South)1232 Posts
On March 16 2018 20:34 Qikz wrote: I do wonder just how much pressure - both physical and mental these illegal betting groups run by the mafia put on the people they get involved with them. If you were grabbed ahold by matchfixing broker and then pressured to do it, id imagine it was huge, but money involved was huge as well The money is way too good. You matchfix, get that initial small amount, then bet on yourself across multiple betting sites, then tell your friends to bet for you and take cuts from there. Imagine the scale of profit- and when you get caught, you "return" to normal society and pay only a small fine (comparitively) and winnings | ||
L_Master
United States7946 Posts
On March 16 2018 05:49 EndingLife wrote: People who say Sky sucked obviously didn't watch him play much. His style was highly micro intensive, he was always underrated and he was the most entertaining Protoss player I've ever watched play the game. Sadly.. Mini is now my new favorite. Yea, he was definitely entertaining...and one of the best protosses I've ever seen at "bullshitting" wins. He'd win games that he had absolutely no business winning. Needs to go if matchfixing...but I'm bummed ;( | ||
Qikz
United Kingdom12009 Posts
On March 17 2018 14:42 jinjin5000 wrote: If you were grabbed ahold by matchfixing broker and then pressured to do it, id imagine it was huge, but money involved was huge as well The money is way too good. You matchfix, get that initial small amount, then bet on yourself across multiple betting sites, then tell your friends to bet for you and take cuts from there. Imagine the scale of profit- and when you get caught, you "return" to normal society and pay only a small fine (comparitively) and winnings Still jinjin, you forget that these are people who skipped places of education to get into progaming and progaming is all they really know how to do. It can't be easy to go back to normal society after progaming, that's why a lot of players end up casters and other things in eSports. | ||
heyitsMiro
83 Posts
On March 16 2018 19:51 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: This makes me rage so bad. I was the biggest fan and at that time seeing Savior's reactions i thought he was just being mentally troubled due to not being dominate anymore (like not being happy after winning games). Now knowing true reasons for those troubles i cant hold myself. What a disgrace. Is there any source for this? I was almost 100% certain the story was savior acted as an enabler or a connection and didn't actually participate in the match fixing. | ||
SuperCyan
Philippines67 Posts
On March 17 2018 18:50 Qikz wrote: Still jinjin, you forget that these are people who skipped places of education to get into progaming and progaming is all they really know how to do. It can't be easy to go back to normal society after progaming, that's why a lot of players end up casters and other things in eSports. yeah to most people being a starcraft progamer is like having the best job in the world. but it is not true. you skipped on a college degree, so you really can’t have flexibility in terms of work after your progaming years. Especially if you’re not a top tier starcraft player. If we’re looking from Sky’s perspective, matchfixing (really sad) would make perfect sense. he’s not a top tier player and there’s no way he can make it deep on asl5. so maybe he thought it was the way to make more money | ||
SuperCyan
Philippines67 Posts
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jinjin5000
Korea (South)1232 Posts
On March 17 2018 22:10 Kawal wrote: I found a link wherein stork,sea and larva got together. I think they were talking about the incident. how I wish live CC/subs is a working invention right now https://youtu.be/ce_bz1_sC3Q I did translate sc2 portion of it here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/532108-stork-on-how-sc2-match-fixing-happened Keep in mind these old progamers all had matchfixing classes and training from kespa days | ||
SuperCyan
Philippines67 Posts
On March 22 2018 00:57 jinjin5000 wrote: I did translate sc2 portion of it here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/532108-stork-on-how-sc2-match-fixing-happened Keep in mind these old progamers all had matchfixing classes and training from kespa days thank you so much jinjin5000! now I understand what they said | ||
JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On March 22 2018 00:57 jinjin5000 wrote: I did translate sc2 portion of it here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/532108-stork-on-how-sc2-match-fixing-happened Keep in mind these old progamers all had matchfixing classes and training from kespa days Thanks! That was an interesting read | ||
CHEONSOYUN
487 Posts
On March 17 2018 13:36 youngjiddle wrote: the sad thing is that these are grown men now doing this. I would be a little more forgiving when it was a teenager like life, or other new talent entering other esports... how pathetic brood war players are! User was temp banned for this post. It is sad, because they're in a position where they have presumably very little savings, earnings, and potential for earnings without either training or education. Cheating is unforgivable, and a shitty option considering their pride and integrity is the only valuable thing left. But just consider why this is happening even now. There will always be incentives to cheat, when the original scandal happened there was so much criticism centered around the moral failure of the cheaters, but not enough leveled at the organizational and structural failures that allowed and encouraged the match fixing to occur. Pro gaming isn't free. These are people who are making very real sacrifices to their lives and they need something to show for it. | ||
Chef
10810 Posts
Stork said he himself got an offer to matchfix during his progaming days, when he was at his height from someone he personally knows by phone. Stork said the offer was larger than his month's salary (thousands of dollars), but he immediately cut his friend off, and told his team of the situation Good for Stork! I wonder how many other programers have a similar story. I find hearing about that a lot more encouraging. If you retell stories like that enough, players won't hesitate or be confused about what they need to do. | ||
IntoTheEmo
Singapore1168 Posts
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HaN-
France1916 Posts
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