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What kind of things does everyone want and hope for in ASL6?
I hope to see Rain and Best matchup against Flash.
Another Jaedong matchup against Flash would be epic. Or even Larva finally getting a chance to play Flash in an ASL tournament.
I was hoping for some good Zerg maps like Blue Storm to make ZvT exciting. I also hope that they use old established maps.
What players would you like to see return to play in it? (Also when does Bisu finish his military service?).
It’s going to be truely epic when ASL6 gets here. Enjoy.
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Russian Federation139 Posts
I was hoping for some good Zerg maps like Blue Storm to make ZvT exciting
WTF?
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I only want JAEDONG to win !
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Military service is 18monyhs i think? I d like jangbi or anytime to play!
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On June 29 2018 22:44 prosatan wrote: I only want JAEDONG to win ! THIS!
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change the group selection thing giving one group swap only to the winner is a bit harsh
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I just wanna see Effort go farther and not get knocked out by ZvZ.
I'm also hoping for a bit more standard map pool, at the very least just no more sparkle. I'm okay with Transistor and can tolerate Third World.
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On June 29 2018 22:57 AF0x wrote: I just wanna see Effort go farther and not get knocked out by ZvZ.
I'm also hoping for a bit more standard map pool, at the very least just no more sparkle. I'm okay with Transistor and can tolerate Third World. this, the maps this season kinda sucked. just play on fighting spirit lol. no seriously get rose of green tea to maek some goo dmacro maps. There were nos tandarard maps and thats what everyone plays.
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During a match I would like it to sometimes cut to the player's first person view, just like the old OSLs would do. Those were the moments that would make me go 'holy shit that's pro control'. I know, now with streams and all, maybe it's not as necessary, but imho it still adds to the production value.
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I liked the maps last season except for sparkle, maybe replace sparkle with gold rush and add another 4 player map instead of gladiator
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I want a island map again!
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On June 29 2018 22:57 AF0x wrote: I just wanna see Effort go farther and not get knocked out by ZvZ.
I'm also hoping for a bit more standard map pool, at the very least just no more sparkle. I'm okay with Transistor and can tolerate Third World. Nice. Maybe we might see a good Effort vs Flash series this ASL6.
It would also be cool if maybe they had a third caster just like the Koreans do. Sometimes it felt like Artosis and Tastless were just droning on and on where a third person could fill in with new commentary.
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On June 29 2018 23:01 james1024 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2018 22:57 AF0x wrote: I just wanna see Effort go farther and not get knocked out by ZvZ.
I'm also hoping for a bit more standard map pool, at the very least just no more sparkle. I'm okay with Transistor and can tolerate Third World. this, the maps this season kinda sucked. just play on fighting spirit lol. no seriously get rose of green tea to maek some goo dmacro maps. There were nos tandarard maps and thats what everyone plays. Fighting Spirit is a dogshit map that's just popular because it's Python 3.0, zerg fans should loathe that map.
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On June 29 2018 22:48 WGT-Baal wrote: Military service is 18monyhs i think? I d like jangbi or anytime to play!
jangbi and anytime have already decided to leave starcraft/esports all together and move on in their lives.
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Personally I adored Third world. That map had flaws but it was so much fun to watch and my favourite games of s5 were there. I'm also hoping that JD will get a win and finally feel able to retire. I feel like considering his wrists/ other physical issues he really needs to. Mostly though, I'm just excited to see more starcraft with a high production value and English commentary! Go asl!
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On June 30 2018 00:19 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2018 22:48 WGT-Baal wrote: Military service is 18monyhs i think? I d like jangbi or anytime to play! jangbi and anytime have already decided to leave starcraft/esports all together and move on in their lives.
I didn' know... Well then as long as we get entertaining games i m ok
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Blizzard not undermining it.
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Bisutopia19042 Posts
Winner of ASL6 plays Bisu in a bo5 on the following maps (Bisu's record on them):
Aztec - 9 wins - 1 losses (90.00%) : Notable wins (Flash, Jaedong) Destination - 21 wins - 7 losses (75.00%) : Notable wins (Flash x3, Jaedong, Free, Leta, Zero) Empire of the Sun - 6 wins - 0 loss (100.00%) La Mancha - 10 wins - 2 losses (83.33%) : Notable wins (Ty/Baby, Jaedong, FBH, Shine) Medusa - 25 wins - 6 losses (80.65%) : Notable wins (Nada, Jaedong, Effort, Stork, Calm, Flash, Kal
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On June 29 2018 22:23 Alpha-NP- wrote: I was hoping for some good Zerg maps like Blue Storm to make ZvT exciting.
lol
I hope Effort will perform the way he should by stomping everyone.
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round of 16 like the old OSL!
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86 sparkle and we're straight
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Blue storm isn't a Zerg map these days. At least in ZvP, it's P favoured. Not broken, but it's good for P.
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Netherlands4499 Posts
I just want to see a good use of Parasite, Ensnare, Optical Flare, Feedback, Maelstrom, Lockdown or Nuke. And also to have bag-o-builds find some success with his stinkiest cheeses.
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On June 29 2018 23:45 ortseam wrote: I liked the maps last season except for sparkle, maybe replace sparkle with gold rush and add another 4 player map instead of gladiator
Gladiator was a stronghold in that map pool to be honest. You need something like that. Sparkle and Transistor turned out to be horrible. Third World was cool and can stay. I would like them to continue experimenting - just with way more time in advance to do sufficient balance testing.
On June 30 2018 05:22 vOdToasT wrote: Blue storm isn't a Zerg map these days. At least in ZvP, it's P favoured. Not broken, but it's good for P.
Bluestorm has always been good for P in PvZ once you hit the late game because you could then easily split the map in half and reaver bunker the shit out of the last expansion.
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On June 30 2018 05:35 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2018 23:45 ortseam wrote: I liked the maps last season except for sparkle, maybe replace sparkle with gold rush and add another 4 player map instead of gladiator Gladiator was a stronghold in that map pool to be honest. You need something like that. Sparkle and Transistor turned out to be horrible. Third World was cool and can stay. I would like them to continue experimenting - just with way more time in advance to do sufficient balance testing. Show nested quote +On June 30 2018 05:22 vOdToasT wrote: Blue storm isn't a Zerg map these days. At least in ZvP, it's P favoured. Not broken, but it's good for P. Bluestorm has always been good for P in PvZ once you hit the late game because you could then easily split the map in half and reaver bunker the shit out of the last expansion.
It was always good for P given the knowledge available now. But back in the day, Protoss users weren't good at using the map to their advantage. ZvP was also generally a Zerg favoured match up at the time, known as "swarm season".
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I want to see Jaedong not get into a zergs heavy group.
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On June 30 2018 05:40 vOdToasT wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2018 05:35 Miragee wrote:On June 29 2018 23:45 ortseam wrote: I liked the maps last season except for sparkle, maybe replace sparkle with gold rush and add another 4 player map instead of gladiator Gladiator was a stronghold in that map pool to be honest. You need something like that. Sparkle and Transistor turned out to be horrible. Third World was cool and can stay. I would like them to continue experimenting - just with way more time in advance to do sufficient balance testing. On June 30 2018 05:22 vOdToasT wrote: Blue storm isn't a Zerg map these days. At least in ZvP, it's P favoured. Not broken, but it's good for P. Bluestorm has always been good for P in PvZ once you hit the late game because you could then easily split the map in half and reaver bunker the shit out of the last expansion. It was always good for P given the knowledge available now. But back in the day, Protoss users weren't good at using the map to their advantage. ZvP was also generally a Zerg favoured match up at the time, known as "swarm season".
Pretty sure protoss players were already bunkering zergs to death in ESL or so.
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Selecting existing maps:
(*) Make a list of every OSL/MSL/ASL map with a combined OSL/MSL/ASL win--loss record that's within a 45%--55% envelope for all three race matchups.
(*) Let N be the number of such maps.
(*) Give each Ro24 player and each seeded player N/2 strikes. Each player may use a strike on any map on the list.
(*) Select the 4 maps with the fewest strikes. (If the Ro24 and seeded players is a pool that's skewed toward any one race, then first average the strikes within each race and second average across races.)
Including new maps:
(*) Allow more time for testing. Do not expect to iterate one time; expect to iterate several times.
Edit: Agreed with TornadoSteve too on the group stages.
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best of 3 for each match up in the groups, until ro8
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i want qualification to start on 6th-8th september so i can take part in it.
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I want to see Shuttle survive another group of death. He has like a “last stand” strength to play good when it matters. Also, I would like to see Soulkey in a rematch with Rain (or just against Best or Snow or Shuttle. His ZvP seemed incredible.
Imagine a Stork against Flash semi-final.
I really don’t trust Hero or Soulkey to dethrone Flash. I’d put my money on Larva (even though I hate him) or Action if anything.
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dat omg face zoom in please
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honestly, i want to see english subtitles of korean casters. tasteless/artosis do a good job, but i wanna know what koreans are saying.
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If finally they understood about quality standards for maps and sensible ways to put together a map pool and introduce new maps with enough time to allow for proper testing and editing, that'd be a huge step ahead.
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On June 30 2018 11:38 orvinreyes wrote: dat omg face zoom in please
hah, that would be nice
On June 30 2018 12:10 TonDan wrote: honestly, i want to see english subtitles of korean casters. tasteless/artosis do a good job, but i wanna know what koreans are saying.
Back in the days of restreaming we often had members of the community doing live subs in chat. That was incredible.
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Does anyone know when the next ASL is scheduled to occur? Where can I find this information?
As for what I want, I just want more ASL. I want to see more Remastered getting played. Such a fun game to watch.
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Yes I am wondering too if there is any Korean community news of ASL6?
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i just want an ASL6 thats all on my wishlist.
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I would really like to see someone "new" make far in this ASL, always fun to watch someone underrated make it far into the bracket!
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TLADT24918 Posts
On July 18 2018 03:24 thisisaGOny wrote: I would really like to see someone "new" make far in this ASL, always fun to watch someone underrated make it far into the bracket! Though not underrated, keep an eye out for Action. He still had some ways to go with his ZvP last ASL, but he's definitely someone to watch for.
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Interesting maps that can set the new gold standard for everyone to enjoy. A new fighting spirit for the new age of BW.
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On July 18 2018 03:43 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2018 03:24 thisisaGOny wrote: I would really like to see someone "new" make far in this ASL, always fun to watch someone underrated make it far into the bracket! Though not underrated, keep an eye out for Action. He still had some ways to go with his ZvP last ASL, but he's definitely someone to watch for.
from proleague days action at the end of kespa era was a rising star from rookie to competing with flash zvt... yes he is someone to look aout for 100%
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Best of three is in Ro24 at all the match.
Ro16 likes the Ro16 old OSL.
Give me a island map.
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TLADT24918 Posts
On July 18 2018 10:19 onlystar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2018 03:43 BigFan wrote:On July 18 2018 03:24 thisisaGOny wrote: I would really like to see someone "new" make far in this ASL, always fun to watch someone underrated make it far into the bracket! Though not underrated, keep an eye out for Action. He still had some ways to go with his ZvP last ASL, but he's definitely someone to watch for. from proleague days action at the end of kespa era was a rising star from rookie to competing with flash zvt... yes he is someone to look aout for 100% yep and the poster I responded to wanted someone new. I'm not sure if we'll see any new amateur players break into the competition in the next ASL, but Action is as new as can be having come back to the scene with ASL5 ^^
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United States9662 Posts
On June 30 2018 01:50 BisuDagger wrote: Winner of ASL6 plays Bisu in a bo5 on the following maps (Bisu's record on them):
Aztec - 9 wins - 1 losses (90.00%) : Notable wins (Flash, Jaedong) Destination - 21 wins - 7 losses (75.00%) : Notable wins (Flash x3, Jaedong, Free, Leta, Zero) Empire of the Sun - 6 wins - 0 loss (100.00%) La Mancha - 10 wins - 2 losses (83.33%) : Notable wins (Ty/Baby, Jaedong, FBH, Shine) Medusa - 25 wins - 6 losses (80.65%) : Notable wins (Nada, Jaedong, Effort, Stork, Calm, Flash, Kal I want to see FlaShFTW and Bisudagger cast together again... MAKE IT HAPPEN MAN. Also tell lildagger Uncle FlaShFTW said hi.
FlaSh v Larva/Rain/BeSt/JD/SK Bo5 would be great. See more Terrans step up besides FlaSh. Mind is ok, a consistent Ro8 but can't get past that. Better maps. Transistor was ok, Sparkle was just... yeah it was bad. Third World was also wonky. Weird maps are fine, just make them playable like Troy or Triathlon.
I just want to see some exciting Starcraft overall.
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There’s a guy named Bangte who beat JD in two long PvZ macro games and almost got in to KSL. I’d love to see him in the next ASL!
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On July 18 2018 13:12 FlaShFTW wrote: FlaSh v Larva/Rain/BeSt/JD/SK Bo5 would be great. See more Terrans step up besides FlaSh. Mind is ok, a consistent Ro8 but can't get past that. Better maps. Transistor was ok, Sparkle was just... yeah it was bad. Third World was also wonky. Weird maps are fine, just make them playable like Troy or Triathlon.
I just want to see some exciting Starcraft overall.
I think the Terrans that are in the KSL are going to do well with the map pool - 54% TvP on FS, 56% on CB, 53% on Polaris, Fortress is 50%, although I think that could go up for Protoss; Gladiator is the only bad map for Terrans in the pool. The bigger issue is that the Terrans playing are mostly TvT and TvZ experts (Last, Light and Sea all stand out here, while TvP sniper Mong is absent) while a few of the half-Protoss player pool are excellent at PvT (Snow, Rain, and BeSt stick out in my head) does not bode well for Terran. Throw in Soulkey’s excellent ZvT and there’s a bit of a recipe for trouble.
Round of 16 actually looks pretty good for Terran, though. Sea and Sharp are with Shine and Snow, who play each other first. Snow’s PvT is excellent - I don’t care how bad the maps are, if you beat Flash, you’re an excellent PvT player; however, Shine’s strong suit is his ZvZ, not his ZvT. If Sharp plays Shine to get out, he should make it. If Sea vs. Sharp is the final match, I think Sea is into the Ro. 8 on his strong TvT. TvZ sniper Light is in a group with JD and Soulkey; as well as Shuttle. That could go anyone’s way. Mind could also get out. Last’s TvP isn’t great, and he’s in a group with three Protosses, but that means that’s the only matchup he has to prepare, while the others are working more PvP. I think he’s eliminated, but I could be wrong.
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I want to see some unorthodox maps again.
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Bisu still has quite a long time till finishing his service I think
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On June 30 2018 00:19 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2018 22:48 WGT-Baal wrote: Military service is 18monyhs i think? I d like jangbi or anytime to play! jangbi and anytime have already decided to leave starcraft/esports all together and move on in their lives. Jangbi is the last bonjwa in my heart. SC2 robbed him of his proper honor!
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United Kingdom12011 Posts
I want Fantasy to play but we don't all get what we want T_T
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On June 30 2018 02:35 iFU.pauline wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2018 22:23 Alpha-NP- wrote: I was hoping for some good Zerg maps like Blue Storm to make ZvT exciting. lol I hope Effort will perform the way he should by stomping everyone.
Apparently he's been having wrist problems so don't get your hopes up.
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I hope to see a cool finals with Effort in it. ZvP finals would be sick. Or just some epic ZvP semi-finals with Effort against Rain, Best, Snow, or Mini.
I also hope Mini and Last actually play as well as they are capable of playing. I think they get nervous playing offline. I’d love to see them upset one of the favorites.
I also hope tor some maps that Zerg have a chance on like Bluestorm. No more bullshit Sparkle lol.
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Casters who don't suck, i.e. pretty much anybody not called Artosis or Tasteless. Sayle would be nice.
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Where is Larva????? He is not in the ASL6 particioants list!!!
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On June 29 2018 23:44 angrypofke wrote: During a match I would like it to sometimes cut to the player's first person view, just like the old OSLs would do. Those were the moments that would make me go 'holy shit that's pro control'. I know, now with streams and all, maybe it's not as necessary, but imho it still adds to the production value.
I would like to see this again as well!
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I want to see Jaedong not get into a zergs heavy group.
Oh man I hope so too! Jaedong Fighting >.< The last ASL was a sad one for a JD-fan :[, But his shape is getting better. KSL coming soon!
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On August 22 2018 03:19 O.P. wrote: Casters who don't suck, i.e. pretty much anybody not called Artosis or Tasteless. Sayle would be nice. They dont suck wtf are u talking about
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I really enjoy Tastosis casting. I hope the continue to cat for a long time. Tastosis really helped me get into starcraft E-sports. Both SC2 and brood war.
Something I would've loved to see in this ASL is Larva. I think he decided not to participate due to stress though.
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I wanna see long macro games. Feels like a lot of games end so early.
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I want to see Flash crushed in such a humiliating way.
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Guess success does make people hate you.
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On August 22 2018 10:16 Moopower wrote: I want to see Flash crushed in such a humiliating way. ASL5 Season Finals on Third World wasn't enough?
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Battery shields. Hundreds of them.
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I'd love to see nuclear weapons. That would be very fun to watch indeed. More Dark Archon use would also be a nice touch.
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No more Flash dominance, I'm tired of Flash dominating the scene for over 8 years.
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On July 18 2018 13:12 FlaShFTW wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2018 01:50 BisuDagger wrote: Winner of ASL6 plays Bisu in a bo5 on the following maps (Bisu's record on them):
Aztec - 9 wins - 1 losses (90.00%) : Notable wins (Flash, Jaedong) Destination - 21 wins - 7 losses (75.00%) : Notable wins (Flash x3, Jaedong, Free, Leta, Zero) Empire of the Sun - 6 wins - 0 loss (100.00%) La Mancha - 10 wins - 2 losses (83.33%) : Notable wins (Ty/Baby, Jaedong, FBH, Shine) Medusa - 25 wins - 6 losses (80.65%) : Notable wins (Nada, Jaedong, Effort, Stork, Calm, Flash, Kal I want to see FlaShFTW and Bisudagger cast together again... MAKE IT HAPPEN MAN. Also tell lildagger Uncle FlaShFTW said hi. FlaSh v Larva/Rain/BeSt/JD/SK Bo5 would be great. See more Terrans step up besides FlaSh. Mind is ok, a consistent Ro8 but can't get past that. Better maps. Transistor was ok, Sparkle was just... yeah it was bad. Third World was also wonky. Weird maps are fine, just make them playable like Troy or Triathlon. I just want to see some exciting Starcraft overall. Yeah, I want some quality English commentary! It would also be great to have VODs with said commentary, as like many others, I can't catch all the games live. Tastosis have nice voice projection and are sometimes funny, but the depth of their analysis is...something that has already been mentioned enough.
I'd also like to see Last or any other Terran play some games in peak form. ASL5 was great, but it was a Terran graveyard.
On August 22 2018 11:34 NoS-Craig wrote: I'd love to see nuclear weapons. That would be very fun to watch indeed. More Dark Archon use would also be a nice touch. While I'm in favour of full denuclearization of the Korean peninsula, I would also love to see more nukes.
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I really want the ASL to stay the course of having each season contain a mix of new maps and maps from the previous season. If theres some imbalance, so be it. Keep it fresh.
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On August 22 2018 11:41 Moopower wrote: No more Flash dominance, I'm tired of Flash dominating the scene for over 8 years.
haha the mapmakers are really trying
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I want The Doom Zoom back!
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