LatiAs (maker of the ASL maps as Demian, Camelot and Sylphid) is calling on map makers to submit their maps for another contest in his Naver blog. The first part is unfortunately an image, so I could not run it through Google Translate, but there seems to be some kind of schedule on it. 9/5–9/28 is probably the submission period.
In any case it would definitely be great if some one with good Korean knowledge could provide us with a full translation of his post!
Anyway, here are some cornerstones:
I think this is important enough to merit its own TL thread where people can discuss and suggest maps to be submitted, present their own submissions or analyze submitted maps or whatever else you deem relevant to be discussed in this context.
In any case it would definitely be great if some one with good Korean knowledge could provide us with a full translation of his post!
Anyway, here are some cornerstones:
- It is not an official map contest, but finalist maps might be used for future Afreeca hosted leagues (so it's like a kind of semi-official general screening or something…)
- There are two categories which will be judged independently, standard maps and (more experimental) concept maps. Each participant can submit two maps per category and be nominated for one finalist in each, but not for both maps in one category. Absolute number of finalists will depend on number (and I suspect quality) of submission.
- only own maps are to be submitted, no "unauthorized modification or plagiarism" is allowed (in how far this disqualifies from-scratch remakes I don't know)
- Map makers are to compile all their submissions into a single e-Mail, also including map pictures and basic information about the maps. Map files must not be protected/corrupted to allow a proper examination.
- Maps will be judged by official map makers and pro gamers (50%) and a public vote (50%).
- Some more detailed info
I think this is important enough to merit its own TL thread where people can discuss and suggest maps to be submitted, present their own submissions or analyze submitted maps or whatever else you deem relevant to be discussed in this context.
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So the first round of selection is over and these are the maps that made it (10 standard, 5 experimental maps, out of 87 submissions):
(2)MoonRiver
by seopport
type: standard
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(2)Division of Territory
by Chicken
type: standard
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(2)Citadelle
by musemika
type: standard
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(4)Polypoid
by KM
type: standard
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(2)Sandglass
by 석준홍 (Seok Jun-Hong)
type: standard
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(2)Green Days
by Hub9 (aka. Herb)
type: standard
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(2)고우 (Go?)
by 제갈공명 (Jegal [Legal?] Business Name)
type: standard
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(2)Renaissance
by CYK_Icarus
type: standard
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(4)Waterloo
by PuraVida
type: standard
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(2)Road of Death
by R4TCHET
type: standard
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(3)Mobius Planet
by musemika
type: experimental
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(2)Sprinter
by Chicken
type: experimental
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(4)Enpassant
by seopport
type: experimental
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(2)Road Show
by 석준홍 (Seok Jun-Hong)
type: experimental
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(2)TowerBridge
by gr8raccoon
type: experimental
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(2)MoonRiver
by seopport
type: standard
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The distance from the rush is long, and the entrance to the front yard is a bridge.
The root of the map is largely divided into top, bottom, and bottom, and you can guide the battlefield in the direction of selecting additional expansion.
Because the base is long and the rush distance is long, the drop attack is expected to be effective.
The root of the map is largely divided into top, bottom, and bottom, and you can guide the battlefield in the direction of selecting additional expansion.
Because the base is long and the rush distance is long, the drop attack is expected to be effective.
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Pretty straight forward I guess, not much to say about it at this point. The combination of double bridges as only exit from the natural and a high ground pod pretty much within tank range of it will make breaking out of a contain very difficult.
(2)Division of Territory
by Chicken
type: standard
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It is a remarkable map of the main entrance of the unusual structure and the backyard. The main entrance is 2 pieces of 1 surplus and can pass through marine juggling.
A neutral colony to help the Zerg's sincerity SimCity is 400 armor 0 and 1 fold.
A neutral colony to help the Zerg's sincerity SimCity is 400 armor 0 and 1 fold.
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I don't like plain backdoor nats. They are just boring. At least this one is very air-harassable, due to its location and all-surrounding cliffs. The narrow bridge and ramp and overall long distance to cover between main and natural will make defending against Muta harassment particularly challenging. the creep colony at the choke is pretty much necessary for this kind of main/nat layout, but there are better ways to go about it!
(2)Citadelle
by musemika
type: standard
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There is a flat open-front yard and a slightly independent back yard. The main entrance of the main entrance is the neutral gas entrance form used in the map of Troy, gold rush, etc., and it is impossible to move the ground unit when it is destroyed, and the entrance of the backyard is blocked by the neutral building.
In the case of neutral building destruction, it is possible to get close to the flow of the opponent multi, and when the gas inlet is destroyed, it can make the copper line distant and it is difficult to induce a fight.
In the case of neutral building destruction, it is possible to get close to the flow of the opponent multi, and when the gas inlet is destroyed, it can make the copper line distant and it is difficult to induce a fight.
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So the basic idea here is to have a Troy-like main with a second way out, so players cannot be locked in completely (which was a common strategy on Troy)
(4)Polypoid
by KM
type: standard
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The polyp-shaped ridge, which is the meaning of the map title, is an important map. Be careful because if you take away the ridge you may get a bit of a game.
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Very straight forward 4p macro map. Only the layout of the 3rds with ramps in two different directions is a bit unusual.
(2)Sandglass
by 석준홍 (Seok Jun-Hong)
type: standard
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It is a power fight map centered on a hill and almost all the way through the center, so you have to capture the center, but you can lead the game.
However, you should always keep in mind that the main and backyard may be dangerous at the moment when the main body is opened under the main body.
Also, it is very important how well you take the additional Multi in the open form, except for the front yard and back yard.
Be careful to check or drop through the air unit since the outer side of the main body is wide.
However, you should always keep in mind that the main and backyard may be dangerous at the moment when the main body is opened under the main body.
Also, it is very important how well you take the additional Multi in the open form, except for the front yard and back yard.
Be careful to check or drop through the air unit since the outer side of the main body is wide.
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For a 2p map this is huge (128×128) and while the space seems overall well used, I think this could easily have another expansion.
With 3 free gas early on Zerg will be pretty strong with Mutas, I guess.
The mineral only has no building space, for some reason, Terran can't even make a scanner. This should be fixed.
With 3 free gas early on Zerg will be pretty strong with Mutas, I guess.
The mineral only has no building space, for some reason, Terran can't even make a scanner. This should be fixed.
(2)Green Days
by Hub9 (aka. Herb)
type: standard
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It is expected that there will be many aspects of securing and playing the front yard first because the rush distance is far from the reverse hill hybrid power fight map.
After the front yard, we will decide whether to secure 7M + 1G multi-
It is important to choose the multi-securing of 6M + 1G multi, which is easy to defend while being a hill.
Since 8M + 8M has a lot of resources of 8M + 1G, it is expected to preoccupy the area.
After the front yard, we will decide whether to secure 7M + 1G multi-
It is important to choose the multi-securing of 6M + 1G multi, which is easy to defend while being a hill.
Since 8M + 8M has a lot of resources of 8M + 1G, it is expected to preoccupy the area.
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Typical map from the heyday of Korean map making during the Kespa times.
(2)고우 (Go?)
by 제갈공명 (Jegal [Legal?] Business Name)
type: standard
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Polaris Rhapsody, Chukwolryeong and Baekdudaegan. The center cannons can only pass through small units like Baekdudaegan or Blue Storm.
Until the neutral building is broken, there is an island-shaped forecourt hill, so be careful with the play.
It is the map which expects the game pattern of the form of the war.
Until the neutral building is broken, there is an island-shaped forecourt hill, so be careful with the play.
It is the map which expects the game pattern of the form of the war.
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What bothers me is that there is no pathway that is wide enough to comfortably move a maxed army around. Furthermore there is basically no way around an equal top vs. bottom map split here, which with the relatively low number of expansions (though normal for a 2p map this size) is very bad for Zerg in a longer game.
(2)Renaissance
by CYK_Icarus
type: standard
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It is a mystery concept map that was created to escape the center-based game that is taking place after optimization.
The aggressive play style has placed an open hill and a wide center to lead the game, and it has differentiated itself from other games, such as changes in core resources, changes in supply and demand due to additional multiplayer.
The aggressive play style has placed an open hill and a wide center to lead the game, and it has differentiated itself from other games, such as changes in core resources, changes in supply and demand due to additional multiplayer.
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A mostly open-centre 2p map which also seems to strongly tend towards a clear map split.
(4)Waterloo
by PuraVida
type: standard
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It is a rotation type map for four people that uses the center ridge arranged in a square as the main battleground.
You have to be careful about the defense because the lines to the multi are open.
The Ruins used in the Center Taegeukdo terrain are High Ruins. (The Jungle tile inside the Ruins terrain is not the High Jungle, but the regular first floor Jungle.)
Therefore, if you do not step on the High Ruins terrain, your view will be blocked.
You have to be careful about the defense because the lines to the multi are open.
The Ruins used in the Center Taegeukdo terrain are High Ruins. (The Jungle tile inside the Ruins terrain is not the High Jungle, but the regular first floor Jungle.)
Therefore, if you do not step on the High Ruins terrain, your view will be blocked.
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For the most part another new twist on the well-established FS layout. Needless to say the idea to use high ground as vision blockers is a bad one because high ground does actually do a lot more than just block vision in BW. This gravely compromises map readability and is just confusing to players, who generally don't spend their time actually reading map descriptions or studying maps in ScmDraft. So you need to give them a clear hint in the map itself that something unusual is going on. This map maker probably does not know about vision blockers yet which would be readily available here, even for the right terrain type. I would strongly suggest that he study Kiseyras closely to learn how it can be properly done.
(2)Road of Death
by R4TCHET
type: standard
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It is map of pre-occupation aspect with two main entrance. The main entrance is blocked with 15 layers of minerals.
The shortest distance between the main points is the ring phase route, and it is possible to pass through the dark templar.
The mineral amount of minerals is 1000.
It is anticipated that the fight against the enemy will be expected through Center 1 Jarrein.
The shortest distance between the main points is the ring phase route, and it is possible to pass through the dark templar.
The mineral amount of minerals is 1000.
It is anticipated that the fight against the enemy will be expected through Center 1 Jarrein.
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The natural backdoor is a Bluestorm-like choke (can only be passed by units up to the size of DTs).
the left and right halves of the map are only connected through the mains, the naturals and a pretty tight path in the very center, so its hard for players to react to aggression at multiple points or to maneuvre around against a turtling player.
the left and right halves of the map are only connected through the mains, the naturals and a pretty tight path in the very center, so its hard for players to react to aggression at multiple points or to maneuvre around against a turtling player.
(3)Mobius Planet
by musemika
type: experimental
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There is a short attack route and a long attack route going through the other start.
Each attack route may be blocked by the ground forces as you or your opponent destroy the gas inlet.
Because the structure is made of separate type electric field, each electric field is relatively small and the rush distance is also short. When ground power is low, battle using terrain is difficult, and proper timing gas entrance destruction is required.
Each attack route may be blocked by the ground forces as you or your opponent destroy the gas inlet.
Because the structure is made of separate type electric field, each electric field is relatively small and the rush distance is also short. When ground power is low, battle using terrain is difficult, and proper timing gas entrance destruction is required.
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This is essentially an island map that tries to screw Protoss over early by allowing two very separated points of entry for 9 pool Lings early on…
Maybe the mineral only bases are meant to make it up for Protoss when they can survive the early onslaught?
I would have liked to see the high ground paths actually "lap around" like in a Möbius strip. Well, can't have everything, I guess…
Maybe the mineral only bases are meant to make it up for Protoss when they can survive the early onslaught?
I would have liked to see the high ground paths actually "lap around" like in a Möbius strip. Well, can't have everything, I guess…
(2)Sprinter
by Chicken
type: experimental
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It is a map created with the concept + short-term concept that the rush route becomes diverse with time.
Although the resources of all resources are controlled and can only be reached via the central dark swarm at first,
The player will be able to go directly to the multi-side of the opposing side by blowing the neutral building.
* Resource
The main thread - 9M (1600) 1G (5500)
Front yard - 7M (1250) 1G (4500)
6: 00 - 8M (1000) 1G (3000
4:00 pm - 7M (1000) 1G (3000)
2:00 - 6M (1000)
Although the resources of all resources are controlled and can only be reached via the central dark swarm at first,
The player will be able to go directly to the multi-side of the opposing side by blowing the neutral building.
* Resource
The main thread - 9M (1600) 1G (5500)
Front yard - 7M (1250) 1G (4500)
6: 00 - 8M (1000) 1G (3000
4:00 pm - 7M (1000) 1G (3000)
2:00 - 6M (1000)
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I like nice, clear-cut concepts like this. I fell like this should have some additional expansions to avoid an easy equal map split, though. There is a lot of unused water space in the corners that could easily serve as another expo. Alternatively (or additionally) there also seems to be enough space in the centre to have a centre expansin (like on Bloody Ridge or Autobahn).
(4)Enpassant
by seopport
type: experimental
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It is a map linking the map of the volume like Andromeda in the past.
The difference is that there are two multiples in the main thread, and the main entrance is wide.
In addition, we aimed at early build boost by quick supply of resources by pulling main minerals one by one by starting. (This also creates a penalty effect when expanding the staring)
It collects resources 12 to 13% faster than before, and is considered to be within the common sense range, not to the fastest infinity or to the usem map level.
These three factors make it possible to expect a somewhat extreme level of volume transfer, and because the multi-structure is simple, it is expected to follow a simple victory formula called force-defeat = defeat.
The difference is that there are two multiples in the main thread, and the main entrance is wide.
In addition, we aimed at early build boost by quick supply of resources by pulling main minerals one by one by starting. (This also creates a penalty effect when expanding the staring)
It collects resources 12 to 13% faster than before, and is considered to be within the common sense range, not to the fastest infinity or to the usem map level.
These three factors make it possible to expect a somewhat extreme level of volume transfer, and because the multi-structure is simple, it is expected to follow a simple victory formula called force-defeat = defeat.
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A macro map with Andromeda-style in-base mineral only. With the wide ramp and without a proper natural there should be some kind of Creep Colony in the main to allow Zerg sunken-defend the entrance.
The central experimental idea of this map seems to be to boost early game economy by putting the main minerals 2 tiles (instead of the proper 3) away from the SLs (like a compromise between Fastest Possible Map and a normal melee map). It is also stated that this prevents an optimal resource depot placement at any additional mains players expand to (thus weakening those expos, basically serving the same purpose as the Khaydarin Crystals/disabled Installation Doors on Transistor). What they probably did not consider is something every FPM player knows: That this also prevents comsat placement for Terran (without lifting off the CC and landing it again in a "bad" spot)…
The middle is huge and all the stuff in it can easily be dismissed as "just deco", which is a bit boring.
The central experimental idea of this map seems to be to boost early game economy by putting the main minerals 2 tiles (instead of the proper 3) away from the SLs (like a compromise between Fastest Possible Map and a normal melee map). It is also stated that this prevents an optimal resource depot placement at any additional mains players expand to (thus weakening those expos, basically serving the same purpose as the Khaydarin Crystals/disabled Installation Doors on Transistor). What they probably did not consider is something every FPM player knows: That this also prevents comsat placement for Terran (without lifting off the CC and landing it again in a "bad" spot)…
The middle is huge and all the stuff in it can easily be dismissed as "just deco", which is a bit boring.
(2)Road Show
by 석준홍 (Seok Jun-Hong)
type: experimental
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It is a center-strength fighting map in which a neutral building and minerals block the outskirts where the multi-places are arranged and rotate around the center.
It is difficult to keep your front yard with two front yard entrance,
Or how much of the opponent 's front yard is blocked.
All the multipliers are centralized, directly or indirectly influenced, as well as central to the transport, or through the air unit to control and keep the multi is important.
It is difficult to keep your front yard with two front yard entrance,
Or how much of the opponent 's front yard is blocked.
All the multipliers are centralized, directly or indirectly influenced, as well as central to the transport, or through the air unit to control and keep the multi is important.
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Some half Troy-gates that block out big units from the beginning…
For the most part this is an Outsider-style map that can be opened up by the players during the course of the game to become a more standard battleground. All the expansions open to two sides will be hard to defend (maybe at some vision blockers beneath the minerals!) and there will probably be lots of pathfinding issues that players will need to work around.
What's absolutely terrible is the unevenly shaped low ground without proper ramps in the centre. Melee maps need to be as easily readable to the player as they possibly can! Additionally there are lots of other terrain editing errors that cause random low-ground spots around the map, which need to be fixed.
For the most part this is an Outsider-style map that can be opened up by the players during the course of the game to become a more standard battleground. All the expansions open to two sides will be hard to defend (maybe at some vision blockers beneath the minerals!) and there will probably be lots of pathfinding issues that players will need to work around.
What's absolutely terrible is the unevenly shaped low ground without proper ramps in the centre. Melee maps need to be as easily readable to the player as they possibly can! Additionally there are lots of other terrain editing errors that cause random low-ground spots around the map, which need to be fixed.
(2)TowerBridge
by gr8raccoon
type: experimental
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In the early days, the only place to fight is the bridge. However, the length of the bridge is so long that it is difficult to expect effective combat.
Therefore, it is anticipated that a shift will be made using this because it may be somewhat reluctant to cross the bridge in operating a large force.
In the latter half of the year, the minerals that block the entrances inside the main building are depleted, so the battlefield changes from a bridge to a wide hill.
Because expansion of inside of main body is exposed to the outside, it is expected to play check by using it, and if minerals inside main body are depleted, three main entrance of main body will be opened.
It is important to determine where to take the expansion from inside the main body.
[Source] LatiAs MilliMap Competition Passed 1st screening!
Therefore, it is anticipated that a shift will be made using this because it may be somewhat reluctant to cross the bridge in operating a large force.
In the latter half of the year, the minerals that block the entrances inside the main building are depleted, so the battlefield changes from a bridge to a wide hill.
Because expansion of inside of main body is exposed to the outside, it is expected to play check by using it, and if minerals inside main body are depleted, three main entrance of main body will be opened.
It is important to determine where to take the expansion from inside the main body.
[Source] LatiAs MilliMap Competition Passed 1st screening!
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So here we have our typical newbie map maker's submission. Only needs some gas-only expansions (and nowadays probably also some "new ramps"-spam) in addition to the long-ass bridge.
Nostalgic + Show Spoiler + jokes aside, this is a bit reminiscent of (2)Hithchiker. The minerals on the ramps, blocking access to the outer parts of the map, are 749 minerals each, so they will take quite a while to be mined out. Needless to say + Show Spoiler + whichever player mines out theirs first will have a huge advantage on that half of the map.
The terrain editing is pretty shoddy with a lot of disregard for proper assignment of proper terrain levels on the High Basilica cliffs.
Probably in a fit of dark humour there were also some Cilvilians put on the bridge which you will probably want tokill claim as collateral damage so they don't get in the way of your army.
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and probably involuntarily mean, sorry :\
(so why am I saying it anyway? O_o)
The terrain editing is pretty shoddy with a lot of disregard for proper assignment of proper terrain levels on the High Basilica cliffs.
Probably in a fit of dark humour there were also some Cilvilians put on the bridge which you will probably want to
So there seems to have been a public votes on the maps to determine the winners (what happened to players and map makers testing them?! O_o), and this is what the wisdom of the crowds is giving us. All of these maps to me still seem far from ready for serious tourney play due to various issues ranging from nonsensical terrain editing and serious mining and other pathfinding related issues to various limiting factors in the layouts that will probably just cause bad and gimmicky gameplay, but that was to be expected, I guess…